Prediction Round 1 Lineup

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I've seen a few people discussing their best 22 around the place. Post your predicted and preferred lineups for round 1 here. If you go for any controversial selections, have a go at explaining why

Here are mine:

Predicted:

FB: Ibbotson Dawson Spurr
HB: Sutcliffe A Pearce Johnson
C: Hill Fyfe D Pearce
HF: Bennell Taberner Mayne
FF: Walters Pavlich Griffin
R: Clarke Neale Mundy
INT: Suban Barlow Ballantyne Sheridan

Preferred:

FB: Ibbotson Dawson Grey
HB: Sheridan A Pearce Johnson
C: Hill Barlow D Pearce
HF: Bennel Fyfe Walters
FF: Pavlich Griffin Ballantyne
R: Clarke Neale Mundy
INT: Sutcliffe Taberner Weller Mzungu

I left Spurr out and included Grey as I feel we lack a specialist small defender, especially one with pace.

I included Mzungu over Mayne and Suban as I felt that he is more versatile than the other two.

Fyfe is at CHF and Taberner on the bench solely to illustrate that he is intended to spend significant minutes in the forward line.

Not even sure Ballantyne or Pavlich will be fit so feel free to update your sides as we get more information.

 

[Schauermann]

Sounds resonable. Depending on where Clarke is at perhaps Hannath instead of him. But agree he is likely to play when fit and Sandi is out. Not so sure about A.Pearce since he is less experienced and will be less likely to get a game straight away with concern about his fitness. So Silvagni a possibility or an extra runner.

 

[ydraw]

Not sure A. Pearce will be fit for round 1, I expect Silvagni to play in the first game.

 

[Kenny_01]

PREFERRED

B: Spurr Dawson Ibbotson
HB: Sutcliffe Johnson Hill
C: Sheridan Mundy Bennell
HF: Walters Taberner Mzungu
F: Ballantyne Pavlich Weller

R: Clarke Fyfe Neale

I: A Pearce, Langdon, DPearce, Suban/Barlow

No idea how I arrived with this side but these are some of my thoughts:

I prefer having A Pearce than Griffin if Clarke is rucking. Clarke is better when he rucks the whole game and Dawson (or Pearce) can give him a chop out if required. Sick of seeing Griffin/Hannath lumbering around and would prefer playing someone more quick, versatile and agile (A Pearce). Clarke probably isn't probably at his peak fitness but surely Pearce offers more than Griffin as a whole package. Happy to try something different in the ruck for the 20% of time Clarke is resting.

Selected Mzungu over Mayne as a forward. Sick of seeing Mayne looking sore and not being able to create space to mark on the lead. Atleast Tendai can run all day, mark pretty well and is accurate shot on goal.

Emphasis for round 1 v Dogs at Etihad is on transition play and skills. It is a fast ground with good ball movement critical.

 

[meima]

PREFERRED

B: Spurr Dawson Ibbotson
HB: Sutcliffe Johnson Hill
C: Sheridan Mundy Bennell
HF: Walters Taberner Mzungu
F: Ballantyne Pavlich Weller

R: Clarke Fyfe Neale

I: A Pearce, Langdon, DPearce, Suban/Barlow

No idea how I arrived with this side but these are some of my thoughts:

I prefer having A Pearce than Griffin if Clarke is rucking. Clarke is better when he rucks the whole game and Dawson (or Pearce) can give him a chop out if required. Sick of seeing Griffin/Hannath lumbering around and would prefer playing someone more quick, versatile and agile (A Pearce). Clarke probably isn't probably at his peak fitness but surely Pearce offers more than Griffin as a whole package. Happy to try something different in the ruck for the 20% of time Clarke is resting.

Selected Mzungu over Mayne as a forward. Sick of seeing Mayne looking sore and not being able to create space to mark on the lead. Atleast Tendai can run all day, mark pretty well and is accurate shot on goal.

Emphasis for round 1 v Dogs at Etihad is on transition play and skills. It is a fast ground with good ball movement critical.

Don't think A.Pearce and Bennell are ready for Rd 1 just my thought.

 

[Vintage]

Weller in for Bennell if he's not ready for round 1?

 

[Eski3]

Weller in for Bennell if he's not ready for round 1?

You would think so. I think Weller has gone past Crozier this pre-season

 

[mike91]

This thread seems 2 weeks too early. I'll get back to you after the Geelong game.

 

[sherrif]

I think we can go without a third key tall back against the bulldogs and play Ibbo on the third tall. Alex Pearce to miss round 1, but come into the team in round 2 after playing two Peel games and 1 NAB game if he plays against Geelong is my prediction. I think Langdon is the most likely to play of the three amigos Weller, Blakely and Langdon. I hope Weller plays ahead of Mayne, but I don't think that will happen.
Im assuming Bennell plays until told otherwise, but Weller will almost certainly play if harley does not.

 

[beetz]

Not sure A. Pearce will be fit for round 1, I expect Silvagni to play in the first game.

Dogs forwards aren't overly tall but they're lightening quick and clever. Probably too clever for Silvagni. Wouldn't be surprised to see both Pearce and Silvagni miss.

 

[wayToGo_]

How many of you are basing your predicted/preferred B22 for round 1 based on watching NAB games on a TV screen? The reason why TV fans should never be consulted by a match selection committee is because they rarely have any clue what players do off the ball that helps allow those with the ball in hand to "star". We 'd end up with a team full of speccy finishers but with nobody to get them the ball in the first place, create a turnover, lay a tackle to stop a score against and so on. Might also be astute to wait until we actually see our best players all playing together in NAB3 rather than basing it on that very ordinary NAB2 game.

 

[Clems Knee]

Based on previous history and preseason form, injuries.

Locks:
FB: Ibbotson, Dawson, _________
HB: ________, __________, Johnson
C: Hill, Mundy, D. Pearce
HF: Walters, Taberner, _________
FF: ________, Pavlich, _________

R: _________, Fyfe, Neale

Int: __________, ____________, _____________, _______________

The defenders who will take up the last three spots: From - Spurr, Sheridan, Sutcliffe, Silvagni, A. Pearce, Mzungu, Collins, C. Pearce, de Boer, Langdon, Grey, Morabito ( injured), Smith, Nyhuis.

The forwards who will take up the last three spots: From - Mayne, Bennell, Ballantyne (lock if fit), Weller, Griffin, Clarke, Suban, de Boer, Crozier, Yarran, Hannath, Apeness (inj), Hurley, DeLuca, Uebergang (bottom of list)

The ruck for round 1 (obviously Sandilands is a lock after round 1): Griffin, Clarke, Hannath.

Interchange: midfielders who aren't locks - Bennell, Suban, Mzungu, Barlow, Sheridan, Sutcliffe, Weller, de Boer, Langdon, Blakely, C. Pearce, Hughes, Tucker, Crozier, Balic.

I'm sure some people won't agree with all the players I've placed as locks. And a few eg Sheridan are a bit stiff
I've tried to put the players in the four categories below in order of who is most likely at the moment. Lyon has said that the fringe players didn't do enough to cement their spots, so there is still a lot of uncertainty. Last year, Lyon said that the players picked themselves. I don't think that's quite the case this year.

 

[mike91]

I'd be incredibly surprised if A. Pearce plays before Round 4 at the absolute earliest. No chance he'll play Round One in even the slightest way.

 

[sherrif]

How many of you are basing your predicted/preferred B22 for round 1 based on watching NAB games on a TV screen? The reason why TV fans should never be consulted by a match selection committee is because they rarely have any clue what players do off the ball that helps allow those with the ball in hand to "star". We 'd end up with a team full of speccy finishers but with nobody to get them the ball in the first place, create a turnover, lay a tackle to stop a score against and so on. Might also be astute to wait until we actually see our best players all playing together in NAB3 rather than basing it on that very ordinary NAB2 game.

You have a lecturing and extremely condescending tone in your posts that is very annoying. Im not quite sure what is wrong with having a go at naming a team based on what people have viewed so far. It is kinda the point of this thread to discus views on best 22, even before the season starts. Gu and Sheridan are two players who I think have locked up positions in the Round 1 team in two NAB games after starting the preseason as being far from assured of a position in the team. Im not sure what the problem is you have with people making comments about how events our unfolding in best 22 selection.

If you don't think the views of what people think are valid till after the final NAB match then why don't you post after that rather than effectively saying the views of everyone are currently irrelevant in your opinion.

I actually think it is possible to have a good understanding of the game watching on TV. Ironically, it is definitely easier to see who is playing well in the clinches and at stoppages. In modern football the majority of the action happens within the frame of a tv screen as well. Yep, I know you don't see movement forward of the play, but to write views off purely by the fact they have been gained from watching on tv is pretty absurd. If you combined the views of television watchers with live viewers you would actually gain a greater understanding of how we are travelling than simply looking at the views of people at the game.

 

[tenderwarrior]

What is the story with Crozier? Is he injured or just not in the picture?

 

[meima]

What is the story with Crozier? Is he injured or just not in the picture?

I think currently not in the picture hope this is a wake up call for him.

 

[clivenator26]

Sheridan Dawson Spurr
Sutcliffe MJ Ibbo
Bennell Mundy Hill
Walters Pav Mayne
Clarke Taberner Ballaz
Griff Fyfe Neale

Weller, Suban, Barlow, DPearce

 

[wayToGo_]

You have a lecturing and extremely condescending tone in your posts that is very annoying. Im not quite sure what is wrong with having a go at naming a team based on what people have viewed so far. It is kinda the point of this thread to discus views on best 22, even before the season starts. If you don't think the views of what people think are valid till after the final NAB match then why don't you post after that.

I actually think it is possible to have a good understanding of the game watching on TV. Ironically, it is definitely easier to see who is playing well in the clinches and at stoppages. Yep, I know you don't see movement forward of the play, but to write views off purely by the fact they have been gained from watching on tv is pretty absurd. If you combined the views of television watchers with live viewers you would actually gain a greater understanding of how we are travelling than simply looking at the views of people at the game.

I said if you JUST watch it on tv you may have a slanted view. Don't disagree you have a slanted view if you JUST watch it live as well. Just a bit over players in our team continually getting hammered on here when their output and work off the ball is first class. People calling for Barlow to get dropped yet he works tirelessly and does plenty off the ball. He laid 9 tackles in the NAB 2 game and ran all day long. Sure, he wasn't at his best, but no-one was.

So apparently when I stick up for our players I am being condescending but when others do it they are justified Happy to have a debate but how about you do it without immediately resorting to throw away personal attacks hey?

 

[sherrif]

I said if you JUST watch it on tv you may have a slanted view. Don't disagree you have a slanted view if you JUST watch it live as well. Just a bit over players in our team continually getting hammered on here when their output and work off the ball is first class. People calling for Barlow to get dropped yet he works tirelessly and does plenty off the ball. He laid 9 tackles in the NAB 2 game and ran all day long. Sure, he wasn't at his best, but no-one was.

So apparently when I stick up for our players I am being condescending but when others do it they are justified Happy to have a debate but how about you do it without immediately resorting to throw away personal attacks hey?

No personal attack. Im directly discussing the content in your post not the person. If you read my edited post Im saying that coming to a thread titled 'Best 22' and effectively saying the views of everyone are currently irrelevant in your opinion is pretty disrespectful to anyone who has posted here. Im having a go at the way you present your arguments to put down the views of others on here and then cry personal attack when your views are criticised.

 

[wayToGo_]

No personal attack. Im directly discussing the content in your post not the person.

First line of your post: "You have a lecturing and extremely condescending tone in your posts that is very annoying."

 

[sherrif]

First line of your post: "You have a lecturing and extremely condescending tone in your posts that is very annoying."

'You' refers to the way you post if you read the rest of the post. No personal attack there.

 

[meima]

First line of your post: "You have a lecturing and extremely condescending tone in your posts that is very annoying."

I am sorry the way you present it does give impression that you hammering on other.

 

[sherrif]

Sheridan Dawson Spurr
Sutcliffe MJ Ibbo
Bennell Mundy Hill
Walters Pav Mayne
Clarke Taberner Ballaz
Griff Fyfe Neale

Weller, Suban, Barlow, DPearce

I think Gu would be close to a certainty ahead of either Mayne, Suban or Weller.

 

[Unique Name]

Spurr - Dawson - Ibbo
Sherro - Johnson - Sutcliffe
Hill - Mundy - D.Pearce
Walters - Taberner - Bennell
Mayne - Pavlich - Ballantyne

Griffin - Fyfe - Neale

Clarke - Barlow - Suban - Mzungu

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Personally I would have Weller in front of Suban but I don't think the MC will see it that way, especially after Ross' comments about none of our fringe players cementing a spot.

Injury clouds under Bennell and Ballas - Weller and Langdon are first in line at the moment I think. I Hope Crozier gets a gig in NAB 3 to stake a claim.

Really do not see Alex Pearce playing round 1 as the Doggies will only have Redpath and Boyd as their tall forwards. Dawson will easily account for Redpath and Johnson will be able to account for Boyd and run off him quite easily.

Really hoping Clarke can play NAB 3 and round 1 for Peel so he is ready for round 1 against the Dogs. If Clarke doesn't get up I would prefer we give Tabs a crack as our Fwd/Ruck than Hannath and just play an extra mid.

 

[meima]

Think we have derailed this thread enough. We'll agree to disagree.

I hope you don't take it personal, if you reread your post in the shoes of other postie prospective.