Carbine Chaos
The Gaff-er
- Apr 1, 2009
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Cool pitch. Good for cricket.
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I don't think he's even the best pure wicket keeper in this match.Carey just proved why he has to be our next Test keeper.. a stunning low snatch to remove Paris..
Who is better? I dont see Peirson here.I don't think he's even the best pure wicket keeper in this match.
As far as the "next gen" keepers are concerned, as glovework goes it would be:Who is better? I dont see Peirson here.
There are some batsmen that are being offered a false sense of security by these flat batfest state decks. As when they are selected for test cricket their loose techniques find them out. Travis Head is one of these, Marcus Harris another. These poor excuses for a fair cricket wicket are destroying Shield cricket and doing nothing to challenge a technique, as was the case when we used the English Dukes ball. But CA in its wisdom dumped that tactic.
Joel Paris the pick of the WA bowlers. Sure helps when you are a left arm swing bowler targeting a top six dominated by lefties.
Oh, you're gonna blindly quote stats to me. Cool. Everyone knows that spinners are the true reflection on how good a keeper is. So, how about this, of his 59 dismissals off him that year, how many do you think were upp to the stumps off Zampa and Head? How many do you you think were keeping back to Sayers, Worrall, Mennie and Richardson?Who holds the current Shield wicket keeping record once held by the great Adam Gilchrist? I dont see any of those that are on your list.
As far as the "next gen" keepers are concerned, as glovework goes it would be:
Inglis
Harper
Holt (haven't seen a lot but he looks tidy)
Gotch
Carey
Peirson
Doran
Inglis is significantly better than the next group, who are better than the bottom group. Carey is nowhere near the best keeper of his peers.
That defeats the point of you guessing. I'm sure you can tell me, given he's the best keeper of the next generation according to you. Which he isn't.You tell me. His work up is tidy too. So stats for not only Carey, but Chris Hartley, Wade Secombe, Chuck Berry etc.. dont count.
If you're judging him on what he wears in T20 (and he wears the short sleeves in that form to piss people off, which it clearly has here) then I hardly need to take your judgement seriously. It's about how they keep at FC level. Where he's okay without being brilliant.Can't take this even remotely seriously with Gotch so high up on the list.
Short sleeves. Need I say more?
I have to disagree there. Carey and Peirson are poor keepers up to the stumps. After Inglis and Harper, it's all about who makes the least mistakes and how bad the mistakes are. For me, Peirson and Carey make more mistakes and are generally worse. I've seen both have some bad mistakes that have cost games. Peirson especially.I have seen him keep, and "okay but not brilliant" seems a fair, if slightly generous, assessment. Would have Carey and even Pierson ahead of him, but not by a massive amount
Trolling or not, keeping in short sleeves is pretty sloppy
Not sure Bancroft agrees with you..Carey and Peirson are poor keepers up to the stumps
Because there isn't going to be a result and you might as well find out if McAndrew can bat top 7?Why is Head not declaring???
Gonna let Pope get to 100 first.Why is Head not declaring??? My dear old mother could bat on this deck and she is 88.
Oh, you're gonna blindly quote stats to me. Cool. Everyone knows that spinners are the true reflection on how good a keeper is. So, how about this, of his 59 dismissals off him that year, how many do you think were upp to the stumps off Zampa and Head? How many do you you think were keeping back to Sayers, Worrall, Mennie and Richardson?
If you watched Carey you would see he's not a good keeper up to the stumps. Literally everyone I listed could get 50+ dismissals if they had a seam attack that caused a dozen nicks a session.
A regulation catch is overwhelmingly proof, okay. You're clutching at straws. He's not in the same league as Paine, Nevill or InglisYeh Carey is poor up.
Because there isn't going to be a result and you might as well find out if McAndrew can bat top 7?
Not a lot of pressure batting 7. I think they need another front line bowler in the side personally.McAndrew can easily bat 5, 6 or 7 but there is no need to put that kind of pressure on him. Let him play as a bowler that can bat.
McAndrew gets the first wicket, Bancroft lbw.
He's charging in. Having a crack
Not a lot of pressure batting 7. I think they need another front line bowler in the side personally.