Round 1 Side

[walkers a legend]

At least 3 will be out injured.

There my favourite three players highlighted.

 

[borissey]

I like Bannister as a player but you have to give him certain limited tasks. He could not mind Nathan Brown. He was asked to play on him at the start of that horrendous game a few years ago when they destroyed us from the middle, at least partially thanks to Brown. Bannister can take some players but Brown is too clever by far.

 

[Jeremias]

It's amazing how many times I have changed my mind over the last few weeks as to what our team should look like come round 1. This is what I have at present:

B: Bret Thornton Michael Jamison Paul Bower
HB: Heath Scotland Jarrad Waite Ryan Houlihan
C: Andrew Carrazzo Nick Stevens Kade Simpson
HF: Jake Edwards Adam Hartlett Bryce Gibbs
F: Eddie Betts Brendan Fevola Matthew Kreuzer
Foll: Cameron Cloke Chris Judd Marc Murphy
Int: Richard Hadley Shaun Grigg Ryan Jackson Jordan Bannister

Out through injury: Shaun Hampson, Andrew Walker, Brad Fisher, Darren Pfeiffer, Adam Bentick

Notes:
-If Pfeiffer is fit and ready, Bannister will give way. Bentick may also replace Bannister if fit.
-Setanta shouldn't play round 1 because he clearly isn't fit and needs to work his way through the Ants.

 

[THE_GUN]

just noticed most carlton supporters have gibbs on the hff, i believe he played a fair bit in defence last year & what would be the chances he could line up there in round1 if he does which player would he most likely play on deledio,morton,pettiffer.

 

[Jeremias]

just noticed most carlton supporters have gibbs on the hff, i believe he played a fair bit in defence last year & what would be the chances he could line up there in round1 if he does which player would he most likely play on deledio,morton,pettiffer.

Under Pagan, Gibbs played predominantly out of the backline, usually minding the small forward of the opposition.

When Ratten took over, we saw a different Gibbs. He moved up the ground more - played some games off half back, spent more time in the middle, and even played a game or 2 on the half forward flank.

This year, most of us believe that he will be playing through the middle and half forward lines. He can still play down back, but it's far more beneficial to have a player like him getting the ball and using his footy smarts and exceptional disposal to move the ball forward.

He won't play down back but if he did, it would probably be on Morton or Pettifer.

I expect to see him in the middle vs the Tigers, spending time on the forward flank as well.

 

[gandaal]

just noticed most carlton supporters have gibbs on the hff, i believe he played a fair bit in defence last year & what would be the chances he could line up there in round1 if he does which player would he most likely play on deledio,morton,pettiffer.

Gibbs is too good to play in defense and it'd be a big shame to see him back there playing on lesser players. Gibbs is on a HFF because there's only 5 spots in a standard team list for midfielders but we all know that the midfield is much bigger than that in reality. Gibbs is a midfielder and he'll play as a midfielder this year.

 

[THE_GUN]

thats fair enough & i appreciate the reply,s
the hbf im my opinion is knowadays part of the midfield as well where most of the modern day attacks are started. i hate to use the term but quaterback style if you may surely your best attacking (running midfielder) would be suited to this position & would give carlton a springboard into attack !!!!!!!!! would gibbs be suited to this role

 

[Jeremias]

thats fair enough & i appreciate the reply,s

Contrary to popular opinion we're more than happy to have opposition supporters on our board as long as they aren't trolls

the hbf im my opinion is knowadays part of the midfield as well where most of the modern day attacks are started. i hate to use the term but quaterback style if you may surely your best attacking (running midfielder) would be suited to this position & would give carlton a springboard into attack !!!!!!!!! would gibbs be suited to this role

There is no doubt that in the modern game the HBF'ers could be considered midfielders. We have Heath Scotland who has been playing that role for a few years now, and also Andy Walker (who is injured and won't be seen for a while )

Whilst Gibbs could theoretically play such a role, we feel that he is much more suited to the midfield and resting on a forward flank. Gibbs is an incredibly poised, skilled and creative footballer. He can find the ball in bucket-loads which is beneficial as a midfielder obviously. He can then give it to other mids to deliver it to the forwards, or he can pinpoint a forward by himself.

As a forward he can play a link man between the midfielders and the full-forwards which is where we often fail, and can take a very strong grab for a guy like him, and knows where the goals are, especially with a long kick like he has.

 

[BlueWorld]

just noticed most carlton supporters have gibbs on the hff, i believe he played a fair bit in defence last year & what would be the chances he could line up there in round1 if he does which player would he most likely play on deledio,morton,pettiffer.

None. Ratten has said that was OK for his first year but won't continue this year. Will play midfield.

 

[Kramer1]

Pfeiffer, Jamieson, Thornton
Bower, Waite, Scotland
Carrazzo, Stevens, Simpson
Houlihan, Hartlett/Edwards, Gibbs
Betts, Fevola, Kruezer
Cloke, Judd, Murphy

Hampson, Hadley, Bannister, Russel/Saddington

Pfeiffer deserves a starting role...strong pre-season, but not sure of the injury situation. Could easily swap with Hadley if he doesn't get up and draft in Saddington to the bench.

Would prefer Waite up front, but concede he will start at CHB.

Think we will play Edwards or Hartlett, not both. Maybe Jake has a nose in front.

I was under the impression that Hampson would be right for Rd 1. As an aside, the operation on his knee was apparently to retrieve a part of his left nut that was smashed to pieces a couple of weeks back.

Bannister gets the nod for a run with/shut down role. Hadley for a bit of hardness off the bench, and Ratts will probably stick with Russel, though personally I would take Saddington.

With no Walker, and Bowers lack of composure...erm I mean enthusiasm, I wouldn't be surprised if Houlihan goes back, Russel takes a HFF and Bower starts on the bench.

Piece of piss really.

 

[Kramer1]

firstly petiffer is rubbish

Need to get the eyes checked...I was about to give you a spray for rubbishing Pfeiffer....apologies...your right on the money, carry on

 

[Brighton_Diggins]

Gibbs is too good to play in defense and it'd be a big shame to see him back there playing on lesser players. Gibbs is on a HFF because there's only 5 spots in a standard team list for midfielders but we all know that the midfield is much bigger than that in reality. Gibbs is a midfielder and he'll play as a midfielder this year.

I prefer gibbs playing stints on the ball
then using him at half back if need be.
That's how he was often used for the glenelg tigers when i watched him
and he was really handy as a defender.
If he's doing well on the pill and it's getting pushed forward consistently
thats where he stays IMO. But if the back line starts to leak a little
you need cool heads and sharp kicks like Gibbs to change the tempo
and settle things down. Jamison, Waite and gibbs make for a good backline
foundation for the years to come. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Bluebear]

FB: Thornton Jamison Bannister
HB: Bower Waite Scotland
C: Carrazzo Murphy Simpson
HF: Gibbs Hartlett Houlihan
FF: Kreuzer Feva Betts
Foll: Cloke Judd Stevens

I: Hampson, Grigg, Jackson, Hadley

Emg: Browne,Edwards , Armfield


I haven't really looked at the Tiges likely team, but ATM I think this is our best 22.
Some match ups:
Richo - Setanta is the natural match up for Richo, but since impersonating a stick insect over the summer, Richo would rag-doll him in marking contests. I'd expect Waite to go with him up the ground, and maybe to get some help from Thornton if Richo goes deep.

Pettifer - Jamison. Should match him for pace and overhead, and provide plenty of run off him. Otherwise Bower.

Deledio - Grigg might get first crack. Lets be honest. No-one will be able to match Lids for pace off the mark, but Grigg will be as close as anyone. Blocking his space and pushing him long and wide will be the key.

Brown - Either Bower or Jammo, whichever doesn't take Petiffer........maybe Bannister.

Meh.......that'll do. Couldn't be bothered doing the lot.

 

[TorresIsGod]

Bannister will play, and he'll play on their most dangerous player, whoever Ratten thinks that is.

We saw last season when Ratten took over, Banno got the massive jobs, and nothing will change, Banno will play and he'll play well, whether it's running through the midfield or playing as a key defender on a taller or shorter opponent, he can do either...

Also, why are people still putting Jordan Russell in their teams? He has shown absolutely nothing over pre-season, you could always play Hadley on a HFF, not rushing him into the midfield, but let him get some game time to get match fitness? He'd be a better bet there than Russell, who is a complete dud.

 

[Salaryman]

Bannister will play, and he'll play on their most dangerous player, whoever Ratten thinks that is.

We saw last season when Ratten took over, Banno got the massive jobs, and nothing will change, Banno will play and he'll play well, whether it's running through the midfield or playing as a key defender on a taller or shorter opponent, he can do either...

Also, why are people still putting Jordan Russell in their teams? He has shown absolutely nothing over pre-season, you could always play Hadley on a HFF, not rushing him into the midfield, but let him get some game time to get match fitness? He'd be a better bet there than Russell, who is a complete dud.

Hate to admit it, but I agree with you. Bannister should get the #1 defensive negater role, Jacko should be in the side for his fitness, hard running and ability to run with the opposition's best midfielder. Would also have Hadley in the first 22 in front of JR.

 

[Kramer1]

FB: Thornton Jamison Grigg
HB: Bower Waite Scotland
C: Carrazzo Murphy Simpson
HF: Gibbs Hartlett Houlihan
FF: Kreuzer Feva Betts
Foll: Cloke Judd Stevens

I: Hampson, Jackson, Edwards, Hadley

Emg: Browne, Bannister, Armfield

Does Pfeiffer not get a look in...or is he confirmed as injured?

 

[Bluebear]

Does Pfeiffer not get a look in...or is he confirmed as injured?

I was going from the report he was injured. Would have him ahead of Brown as an emergency. Needs to show some more consistent form before getting in the side.

 

[BlueBelle]

B: Bower Jamison Thornton
HB: Scotland Waite Hadley
C: Gibbs Stevens Simpson
HF: Houlihan Hartlett Murphy
F: Edwards Fevola Betts

Foll: Cloke Judd Carrazzo

I: Kreuzer Grigg Jackson Pfeiffer

 

[Jeremias]

Deledio - Grigg might get first crack. Lets be honest. No-one will be able to match Lids for pace off the mark, but Grigg will be as close as anyone. Blocking his space and pushing him long and wide will be the key.

I would actually like to see Jacko play on Deledio. He can match him around the ground and IMO is a far better option than Grigg.

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Anybody who has Jordan Russell in their side is clearly deluded.

I love these people who say Betts is lazy, Banno is finished and therefore leave them out - yet Jordan Russell who has done nothing gets named because he was a 1st round pick and people won't concede that he's no good.

Bannister >>> Russell - At least Banno serves a purpose on the ground, as he did when he destroyed Cooney last week.

 

[HBF]

B: Jamison Thornton Bannister
HB: Bower Waite Scotland
C: Simpson Judd Gibbs
HF: Edwards Hartlett Murphy
FF: Betts Fevola Houlihan
Rucks: Cloke Stevens Carrazzo
I/C: Bentick Kreuzer Hadley Pfieffer

 

[Bluebear]

No Hampson HBF?

 

[BlueBelle]

B: Jamison Thornton Bannister
HB: Bower Waite Scotland
C: Simpson Judd Gibbs
HF: Edwards Hartlett Murphy
FF: Betts Fevola Houlihan
Rucks: Cloke Stevens Carrazzo
I/C: Bentick Kreuzer Hadley Pfieffer

Even with Thornton's experience over Jamo, I'd still prefer Jamo at FB.

Thornton makes some silly mistakes sometimes *shakes head*

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Even with Thornton's experience over Jamo, I'd still prefer Jamo at FB.

Thornton makes some silly mistakes sometimes *shakes head*

and Jamo can't kick - so it sort of evens out lol

 

[macca69]

Not sure if Pfeiffer is at the peak of his fitness.....looked to be labouring at the end of the Ants game and came off with a dickie groin ealry in the last....on form he would be close though.

That's a shame, he was looking very impressive.

Any idea on the severity of his groin injury, really hope it's not OP or anything. Rotten luck for him, as IIRC he's had a limited pre-season due to an ankle injury.