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JPetro83

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1I couldn't find a thread for this yet. Post your thoughts and Round 1 team for 2021:

B: Brown Talia Scholl
HB: Doedee Butts Milera
C: Smith Sloane Keays
HF: Lynch Himmelberg Jones
F: Stengle Fogarty McAdam
R: ROB M Crouch Laird

INT: B Crouch (I think we keep him), Mcpherson, Hamill, Shoenberg

EMG: Pick 1, Pick 9, Walker, McAsey, McHenry

Gone/Going? in 2021:
Poholke(Delist/rookie spot)
Galluci(deserves a year or 2 deal)
Davis(Contracted but is a list clogger)
Seedsman(Trade)
Kelly(Trade)
Knight(delist)
Crocker(Delist)
Mackay(Retire/maybe a 1 yr deal)
Hartigan(Hopefully gets picked up via FA)
Wilson: Delist
Strachan: Delist
Taylor: Delist
Atkins: Gone(Gone to FA)
Gibbs: Retired
 

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1I couldn't find a thread for this yet. Post your thoughts and Round 1 team for 2021:

B: Brown Talia Scholl
HB: Doedee Butts Milera
C: Smith Sloane Keays
HF: Lynch Himmelberg Jones
F: Stengle Fogarty McAdam
R: ROB M Crouch Laird

INT: B Crouch (I think we keep him), Mcpherson, Hamill, Shoenberg

EMG: Pick 1, Pick 9, Walker, McAsey, McHenry

Gone/Going? in 2021:
Poholke(Delist/rookie spot)
Galluci(deserves a year or 2 deal)
Davis(Contracted but is a list clogger)
Seedsman(Trade)
Kelly(Trade)
Knight(delist)
Crocker(Delist)
Mackay(Retire/maybe a 1 yr deal)
Hartigan(Hopefully gets picked up via FA)
Wilson: Delist
Strachan: Delist
Taylor: Delist
Atkins: Gone(Gone to FA)
Gibbs: Retired
That team is pretty close to what we want, I'd swop Scholl with Hamill and put him in Keays spot, Keays on the bench.

I actually think we can't keep Crouch in that team, and even a pick 19 would be worth it for the rebuild sake - we need room for our top draft picks.

Would like to see Lynch out be the year's end too, depends on who we draft (McDonald/ Thilthorpe).

Also McAsey over Butts I think, I see Butts more of a Talia replacement - and he needs another season in the SANFL.
 

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Obviously a degree of crystal balling goes into this but if could pull of something like this through the trade/draft, would be a great result.

Pick 1: Hollands
Pick 2: McDonald (happy for Brad to stay but looks like he's gone)
GWS pick: Thilthorpe (bundle the Atkins compo with Pick 8, hopefully gets us a couple pick upgrade into the Thilthorpe range)
Pick 22: best available mid (Poulter?)
Dogs 2nd rounder: trade for Hately
Back end picks for Edwards, Newchurch and Borlase

F. Fogarty McDonald Stengle
Hf. McAdam Himmelberg Hollands
C. Sholl M Crouch Hately
Hb. Smith McAsey Milera
B. McPherson Talia Doedee

1R. ROB Laird Sloane
Ic. Hamill Schoenberg Keays Thilthorpe

EMG. Brown Walker Jones McHenry Lynch Butts Worrell

List ins (assuming same list size): Hollands, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Hately, Poulter, Edwards, Newchurch, Borlase.
List outs: Gibbs (ret), Atkins (FA), B Crouch (FA), Hartigan (FA), Mackay (ret), Poholke (del), Knight (del), Gallucci (del). If lists reduced further, Davis, Seedsman in trouble.
 

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That team is pretty close to what we want, I'd swop Scholl with Hamill and put him in Keays spot, Keays on the bench.

I actually think we can't keep Crouch in that team, and even a pick 19 would be worth it for the rebuild sake - we need room for our top draft picks.

Would like to see Lynch out be the year's end too, depends on who we draft (McDonald/ Thilthorpe).

Also McAsey over Butts I think, I see Butts more of a Talia replacement - and he needs another season in the SANFL.
Dont forget Worrel. Worrel, Butts and McAsey. our KPD's look set for the next decade.. fingers crossed.
 

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Obviously a degree of crystal balling goes into this but if could pull of something like this through the trade/draft, would be a great result.

Pick 1: Hollands
Pick 2: McDonald (happy for Brad to stay but looks like he's gone)
GWS pick: Thilthorpe (bundle the Atkins compo with Pick 8, hopefully gets us a couple pick upgrade into the Thilthorpe range)
Pick 22: best available mid (Poulter?)
Dogs 2nd rounder: trade for Hately
Back end picks for Edwards, Newchurch and Borlase

F. Fogarty McDonald Stengle
Hf. McAdam Himmelberg Hollands
C. Sholl M Crouch Hately
Hb. Smith McAsey Milera
B. McPherson Talia Doedee

1R. ROB Laird Sloane
Ic. Hamill Schoenberg Keays Thilthorpe

EMG. Brown Walker Jones McHenry Lynch Butts Worrell

List ins (assuming same list size): Hollands, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Hately, Poulter, Edwards, Newchurch, Borlase.
List outs: Gibbs (ret), Atkins (FA), B Crouch (FA), Hartigan (FA), Mackay (ret), Poholke (del), Knight (del), Gallucci (del). If lists reduced further, Davis, Seedsman in trouble.
Brown EMG? he is one of the most underrated players in the AFL. he plays all day everyday IMO. Agree on Seed and Davis. I think Davis is in trouble regardless on list sizes. If he spent more time concentrating on footy than he does being a goof off on social media he might be ok.
 

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Brown EMG? he is one of the most underrated players in the AFL. he plays all day everyday IMO. Agree on Seed and Davis. I think Davis is in trouble regardless on list sizes. If he spent more time concentrating on footy than he does being a goof off on social media he might be ok.
Brown has come good the last month, was god awful this year last month aside. Mcpherson a higher ceiling and can play small and tall.
 

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B: Brown, Talia, Doedee
HB: Smith, McAsey/Butts, Hamill
C: Sholl, Laird, Milera
HF: Hollands, Fogarty, Sloane
F: Stengle, Himmelberg, McAdam
R: O'Brien, Mrouch, Schoenberg
I/C: Keays, Jones, McPherson, Hately

I'd be happy with this
 

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Hollands is recovering from an acl.. had the operation in March..

If we pick him... He wont be ready for round 1 next year. It will only be 12 months since his op and he wont have had a full preseason.

He’ll have to bring his fitness back up and get some form/feel for the game back.

He’ll get fit and play a couple of SANFL games first.
 

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Obviously a degree of crystal balling goes into this but if could pull of something like this through the trade/draft, would be a great result.

Pick 1: Hollands
Pick 2: McDonald (happy for Brad to stay but looks like he's gone)
GWS pick: Thilthorpe (bundle the Atkins compo with Pick 8, hopefully gets us a couple pick upgrade into the Thilthorpe range)
Pick 22: best available mid (Poulter?)
Dogs 2nd rounder: trade for Hately
Back end picks for Edwards, Newchurch and Borlase

F. Fogarty McDonald Stengle
Hf. McAdam Himmelberg Hollands
C. Sholl M Crouch Hately
Hb. Smith McAsey Milera
B. McPherson Talia Doedee

1R. ROB Laird Sloane
Ic. Hamill Schoenberg Keays Thilthorpe

EMG. Brown Walker Jones McHenry Lynch Butts Worrell

List ins (assuming same list size): Hollands, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Hately, Poulter, Edwards, Newchurch, Borlase.
List outs: Gibbs (ret), Atkins (FA), B Crouch (FA), Hartigan (FA), Mackay (ret), Poholke (del), Knight (del), Gallucci (del). If lists reduced further, Davis, Seedsman in trouble.
I like this... but see my comment re: Hollands above..

Thilthorpe might be a stretch at 8.. think he might go top 6 so moving that GWS pick up would be essential.. but its not easy.. clubs dont give up those top picks easy. They’ll ask dor more than 8 and a pick in the 20’s (which is likely atkins compo)..

If we can get Mcdonald and thilthorpe.. there’s our forward line, with fog, set for a decade. With Himmelberg in there.
 

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Obviously a degree of crystal balling goes into this but if could pull of something like this through the trade/draft, would be a great result.

Pick 1: Hollands
Pick 2: McDonald (happy for Brad to stay but looks like he's gone)
GWS pick: Thilthorpe (bundle the Atkins compo with Pick 8, hopefully gets us a couple pick upgrade into the Thilthorpe range)
Pick 22: best available mid (Poulter?)
Dogs 2nd rounder: trade for Hately
Back end picks for Edwards, Newchurch and Borlase

F. Fogarty McDonald Stengle
Hf. McAdam Himmelberg Hollands
C. Sholl M Crouch Hately
Hb. Smith McAsey Milera
B. McPherson Talia Doedee

1R. ROB Laird Sloane
Ic. Hamill Schoenberg Keays Thilthorpe

EMG. Brown Walker Jones McHenry Lynch Butts Worrell

List ins (assuming same list size): Hollands, McDonald, Thilthorpe, Hately, Poulter, Edwards, Newchurch, Borlase.
List outs: Gibbs (ret), Atkins (FA), B Crouch (FA), Hartigan (FA), Mackay (ret), Poholke (del), Knight (del), Gallucci (del). If lists reduced further, Davis, Seedsman in trouble.
Lynch and Brown in for Hollands and Thilthorpe from this. Too tall with Thilthorpe, ROB, McDonald, Himmelburg and Fogarty.
Probably why I would rather a mid with that pick.

Brown Talia Doedee
McPherson McAsey Milera
Smith Crouch Sloane
ROB Laird Schoenberg
Lynch Himmelburg McAdam
Stengle McDonald Fogarty
Hamill Sholl Hately Keays

Jones, McHenry, Worrell, Hollands, Pick 9, O'Connor, Edwards, Butts, Tex
 

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Would prefer to do this after trade and draft but will give it a quick go.

Assumptions: List size 38 with no rookies.

Who isn't on our list?
13 players

Retirements
Mackay Gibbs

Delistings
Strachan Wilson Knight Poholke Crocker Taylor

Trade
Atkins(band 2. Pick 20-30) BCrouch(band 1. Pick 2) Smith(pick 15?) Kelly(3rd round pick) Lynch (3rd round pick)

I think we will take a total of 8 players at the trade/draft

With our picks I would most likely take:
1. McDonald, 2. Hollands, 9. Archie Perkins/Oliver Henry. Don't know enough yet about the other picks.

Picks(as at 30/8)
1, 2?(BCrouch?), 10(likely pick 9 GWS), 15?(Smith), 20, 20-30(Atkins), 28, 42, 50, 61, 74 plus 3rd round picks for Kelly, Lynch

Players on our list:
Brown Butts MCrouch Davis Doedee Fogarty Frampton Gallucci Gollant Hamill Hartigan Himmelberg Jones Keays Laird McAdam McAsey McHenry McPherson Milera Murphy O'Brien O'Connor Schoenberg Seedsman Sholl Sloane Stengle Talia Walker(sanfl) Worrell

Team
Brown Talia Worrell/McAsey
Hamill Doedee Sholl
Sloane Laird Hollands(when fit)
McAdam Himmelberg Archie Perkins/Oliver Henry
Stengle McDonald Milera

ROB MCrouch Schoenberg

McPherson Keays Jones/O'Connor Gallucci/Gollant/Davis/Fogarty

Players missing from our current best 22:
BCrouch, Smith, Walker, Lynch, Kelly, Hartigan, Mackay, Murphy. The only two major losses are BCrouch, Smith but you need to make sacrifices to build a premiership team. Basically Hollands in for BCrouch, McDonald in for Walker, Lachlan Jones/Oliver Henry in for Lynch, Worrell/McAsey in for Hartigan, Hamill in for Mackay, Milera in for Smith, Doedee in for Kelly, one of Gallucci/Gollant/Davis/Fogarty in for Murphy. I see no nett loss from these inclusions and increased gain over time.

Aim for 2021(17 round covid season): 5 to 7 wins
Aim for 2021 (22 round ): 6 to 9 wins.
 
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Ignoring draft, trades (outside of the obvious "will take FA cases, i.e. Brouch and Atkins) and of course injuries, this is how it shakes out for me:

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: Hamill - McAsey - McPherson
C: Sholl - M.Crouch - Milera
HF: Tex/Lynch* - Himmelberg - McHenry
FF: Stengle - Fogarty - McAdam.
R: O'Brien - Schoenberg - Laird

INT: Butts - Sloane - Jones - Keays

Probably aiming for a 5 win season would be my bet.

*Either or, it's just mainly an older guy to give a bit of experience and direction with structure whilst the next-gen gets comfortable. I would like at least one highly experienced player in each of the three sectors being an on-field coach and teaching the next-gen how to coach themselves onfield.
 

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FB: Doedee - Talia/Hartigan* - McPherson
HB: Smith - McAsey/Butts - Hamill
C: Milera - Sloane - Sholl
HF: McAdam - Himmelberg - Schoenberg
FF: Stengle - Fogarty - Murphy
FOLL: O’Brien - Crouch (Matt) - Laird
INT: Keays - Jones - Worrall - McHenry

*Keep one trade the other
**Not including any new draft picks or trades
 

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Ignoring draft, trades (outside of the obvious "will take FA cases, i.e. Brouch and Atkins) and of course injuries, this is how it shakes out for me:

B: Brown - Talia - Doedee
HB: Hamill - McAsey - McPherson
C: Sholl - M.Crouch - Milera
HF: Tex/Lynch* - Himmelberg - McHenry
FF: Stengle - Fogarty - McAdam.
R: O'Brien - Schoenberg - Laird

INT: Butts - Sloane - Jones - Keays

Probably aiming for a 5 win season would be my bet.

*Either or, it's just mainly an older guy to give a bit of experience and direction with structure whilst the next-gen gets comfortable. I would like at least one highly experienced player in each of the three sectors being an on-field coach and teaching the next-gen how to coach themselves onfield.
Smith
 

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There is always one.

In saying that though, I am certainly tempted to move on from Smith, or at least have him as a good depth piece for 2021. There are a fair few outside players who need that game time and have certainly earned it in the past few months. On top of we've already gambled on Milera and Jones making it with long term contracts. The other one that stands out is Butts, but I'd like us putting games into our KPD pairing for the next decade as soon as possible.

You could certainly find a way to fit Smith in, but... yeah. Of course, the other alternative would be to switch Brown and Smith and have McPherson take back pocket. That kid is certainly born to be a top notch back pocket.
 

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1I couldn't find a thread for this yet. Post your thoughts and Round 1 team for 2021:

B: Brown Talia Scholl
HB: Doedee Butts Milera
C: Smith Sloane Keays
HF: Lynch Himmelberg Jones
F: Stengle Fogarty McAdam
R: ROB M Crouch Laird

INT: B Crouch (I think we keep him), Mcpherson, Hamill, Shoenberg

EMG: Pick 1, Pick 9, Walker, McAsey, McHenry

Gone/Going? in 2021:
Poholke(Delist/rookie spot)
Galluci(deserves a year or 2 deal)
Davis(Contracted but is a list clogger)
Seedsman(Trade)
Kelly(Trade)
Knight(delist)
Crocker(Delist)
Mackay(Retire/maybe a 1 yr deal)
Hartigan(Hopefully gets picked up via FA)
Wilson: Delist
Strachan: Delist
Taylor: Delist
Atkins: Gone(Gone to FA)
Gibbs: Retired
Your delisting is brutal, but what is needed.

Assuming there is a summer series of AFL, Im sure that one or two new kids from the 2020 draft will come into that team.
 

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Your delisting is brutal, but what is needed.

Assuming there is a summer series of AFL, Im sure that one or two new kids from the 2020 draft will come into that team.
I still dont know why we gave Davis a 2 year deal last year. He wont make it.. he should have been cut last year.
 

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If (and it’s a big if) the season returns to a normal format, I can’t see why we can’t eek out 7-10 wins next year. 11 home games in front of larger crowds will go a long way in achieving this. Plus we’ll no doubt snag one or two away from home. Only downside is I assume Horne is well out of the picture now.
 

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B: Brown Talia Doedee
HB: Milera McAsey McPherson
C: Smith Laird Sholl
HF: Sloane Fogarty Lynch
F: Stengle Himmelberg McAdam
R: O'Brien Crouch Crouch
I/C: Schoenberg Keays Hollands/Hamill Jones
Couldn't fit:
Hamill/Pick 2, McHenry, Butts, Murphy
Walker, Kelly, Mackay, Hartigan
Developing:
Worrell, O'Connor, Gollant, Draftees
Kept because we kind of have to:
Frampton
Gone:
Knight, Gallucci, Gibbs, Poholke, Seedsman, Crocker, Atkins, Wilson, Davis, Taylor, Strachan

Worrell pushing for Lynch's spot by mid-season
4 man rotation between Talia, McAsey, Butts and Hartigan throughout the season
Hamill playing more often than not, plays rd 1 if we draft a big
McHenry to get chances
Hopefully traded in someone like Graham or Hately pushing for a game
Kelly kept to give some insurance for Doedee
 

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FB: Brown, Talia, Doedee
HB: Hamill, McAsey, Laird
C: Milera, Sloane, Scholl
HF: McAdam, Himmelberg, Pick 2
FF: Stengle, Foggie, Frampton
R: ROB, M. Crouch, Pick 1
Int: Keays, McPherson, Schoenberg, Lynch


Cut: Walker, DMac, Hartigan, Crocker, Wilson, Atkins, Knight, Taylor, Strachan, The Gooch, The Seed.
 

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Based on the current squad...

B: Doedee, Talia, McPherson
HB: Milera, McAsey, Hamill
C: Sholl, Mrouch, Jones
HF: Sloane, Fogarty, Schoenberg
F: Stengle, Himmelberg, McAdam
R: O'Brien, Brouch, Laird
I: Smith, Keays, McHenry, Worrell

No Walker, Hartigan, Mackay or Lynch.

Playing both Worrell & McAsey gives us flexibility back/forward.

Pick plenty of midfield types who can also play back/forward to develop deeper rotations.

Edit - how could I forget the Dude.
 
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Based on our current squad, I’d really like to see but I know will not happen:

B: Brown, Talia, McPherson
HB: Doedee, McAsey, Hamill
C: Sholl, Sloane, Milera
HF: McHenry, Himmelberg, Murphy
F: Stengle, Fogarty, McAdam
R: O'Brien, Mrouch, Laird
I: Smith, Keays, Jones, Schoenberg

No Walker, Hartigan, Mackay or Lynch or Brouch (traded)

I’d love to play Worrell instead of Murphy but I think that is very unlikely to happen in R1 (hopefully a later round).

This gives us:
B: 3x stoppers/good decide makers (1x General)
HB: 2x Intercept markers/2x Speed
C: 2x Disposal Efficiency / 1 x General
HF: 2x Pressure / 1x Marker
F: 2x Pressure / 1 x marker (McAdam) / 1 x (lead up Full fwd)
R: 3xHard inside workers (plus Laird has white line fever)
I: 4x mids (with 1x Back & 3x Fwd position flexibility)

Just a dream.



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1I couldn't find a thread for this yet. Post your thoughts and Round 1 team for 2021:

B: Brown Talia Scholl
HB: Doedee Butts Milera
C: Smith Sloane Keays
HF: Lynch Himmelberg Jones
F: Stengle Fogarty McAdam
R: ROB M Crouch Laird

INT: B Crouch (I think we keep him), Mcpherson, Hamill, Shoenberg

EMG: Pick 1, Pick 9, Walker, McAsey, McHenry

Gone/Going? in 2021:
Poholke(Delist/rookie spot)
Galluci(deserves a year or 2 deal)
Davis(Contracted but is a list clogger)
Seedsman(Trade)
Kelly(Trade)
Knight(delist)
Crocker(Delist)
Mackay(Retire/maybe a 1 yr deal)
Hartigan(Hopefully gets picked up via FA)
Wilson: Delist
Strachan: Delist
Taylor: Delist
Atkins: Gone(Gone to FA)
Gibbs: Retired
Quite like this team
 

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