thylacine60
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why, why, why does the bye have to run into form just in time to meet us? every ******* year.............
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At the risk of creating a monster...
Where are we at?
Don't they deliver? You'd think for the money for a new Merc, they would prep it and deliver it to your house for you.
Watching the Swans Hawks game, and pondering why our blokes can't apply manic pressure on the opposition all game, the Swans beaten by a far inferior list ..all due to game plan, structure and mindset. where can we get some of that ?
You hard-boiled idjot...
We'd know if you'd just produce your Bye preview post...why, why, why does the bye have to run into form just in time to meet us? every ******* year.............
Only one I disagree with is Williamson, largely because he's just refusing to take the first option. His game read is not all that strong, so he just either needs to play within himself or look for Leaders or someone specific, whether Doc, Weitering, Jones, Plow, Saad etc.No Round 14 thread up yet, and after watching On The Couch, in particular Nick Riewoldt talking about the dropping of Milne and Dal Santo to make the list take notice, I've been looking at those we are more likely to get a decent defensive effort out of, even if they fail, and the embracing of the next generation.
We have too many guys who written off as not up to it, but they have not all had the chances to play in their preferred spots. We are too slow with Pittonet in the ruck and De Koning is wasted playing 70% up forward.
I'd like to play a Grigg type second ruck and although I don't want him injured, I'd like to have Jack Silvagni around the ball more so he'd be one of my choices. I'd like to see what he can do leading an opposition ruck around the field.
I'd like to drop Doc and Cripps to send a message but we can't go that far, so Doc, as much as I love him, he has to serve penance for his lack of defensive running. Similarly, bugger this negative tagging bullshit. Curnow isn't doing the jobs he used to do and while he will run defensively, he has to start making way for others. I want the enthusiasm of younger players who want to take ownership of this team.
Plowman Weitering Williamson
Saad Jones Newman
Kemp Kennedy Fisher
Honey McKay Owies
Betts Cripps Silvagni
De Koning Dow Walsh
Setterfield O'Brien Williams Stocker
Sub: Martin
Out: Docherty Murphy Curnow Pittonet Cottrell Newnes (was sub)
In: Plowman Williamson Kemp Kennedy Honey O'Brien
Playing Cripps forward unless the midfield are failing dismally. I'd rather have players that some say aren't ready, instead of keeping the same players that aren't willing.
This will rattle some cages.
Only one I disagree with is Williamson, largely because he's just refusing to take the first option. His game read is not all that strong, so he just either needs to play within himself or look for Leaders or someone specific, whether Doc, Weitering, Jones, Plow, Saad etc.
We would be thoroughly better off if you replaced him with Williams, and Willams with whichever of Setterfield or Dow laid the most tackles in either reserves or seniors.
yeah that won't be happening again..........We'd know if you'd just produce your Bye preview post...
Only issue I see with that use of JSOS is he'd probably unluckily somehow get injured. As seems to happen...No Round 14 thread up yet, and after watching On The Couch, in particular Nick Riewoldt talking about the dropping of Milne and Dal Santo to make the list take notice, I've been looking at those we are more likely to get a decent defensive effort out of, even if they fail, and the embracing of the next generation.
We have too many guys who written off as not up to it, but they have not all had the chances to play in their preferred spots. We are too slow with Pittonet in the ruck and De Koning is wasted playing 70% up forward.
I'd like to play a Grigg type second ruck and although I don't want him injured, I'd like to have Jack Silvagni around the ball more so he'd be one of my choices. I'd like to see what he can do leading an opposition ruck around the field.
I'd like to drop Doc and Cripps to send a message but we can't go that far, so Doc, as much as I love him, he has to serve penance for his lack of defensive running. Similarly, bugger this negative tagging bullshit. Curnow isn't doing the jobs he used to do and while he will run defensively, he has to start making way for others. I want the enthusiasm of younger players who want to take ownership of this team.
Plowman Weitering Williamson
Saad Jones Newman
Kemp Kennedy Fisher
Honey McKay Owies
Betts Cripps Silvagni
De Koning Dow Walsh
Setterfield O'Brien Williams Stocker
Sub: Martin
Out: Docherty Murphy Curnow Pittonet Cottrell Newnes (was sub)
In: Plowman Williamson Kemp Kennedy Honey O'Brien
Playing Cripps forward unless the midfield are failing dismally. I'd rather have players that some say aren't ready, instead of keeping the same players that aren't willing.
This will rattle some cages.
Only issue I see with that use of JSOS is he'd probably unluckily somehow get injured. As seems to happen...
Ask ClarkoWatching the Swans Hawks game, and pondering why our blokes can't apply manic pressure on the opposition all game, the Swans beaten by a far inferior list ..all due to game plan, structure and mindset. where can we get some of that ?
Only one I disagree with is Williamson, largely because he's just refusing to take the first option. His game read is not all that strong, so he just either needs to play within himself or look for Leaders or someone specific, whether Doc, Weitering, Jones, Plow, Saad etc.
We would be thoroughly better off if you replaced him with Williams, and Willams with whichever of Setterfield or Dow laid the most tackles in either reserves or seniors.
Williamson has been horrible this year and deserved to be dropped. He gets caught with the ball far too often and is a poor decision maker. Two years ago he looked extremely promising so not sure what has happened to him
No Round 14 thread up yet, and after watching On The Couch, in particular Nick Riewoldt talking about the dropping of Milne and Dal Santo to make the list take notice, I've been looking at those we are more likely to get a decent defensive effort out of, even if they fail, and the embracing of the next generation.
We have too many guys who written off as not up to it, but they have not all had the chances to play in their preferred spots. We are too slow with Pittonet in the ruck and De Koning is wasted playing 70% up forward.
I'd like to play a Grigg type second ruck and although I don't want him injured, I'd like to have Jack Silvagni around the ball more so he'd be one of my choices. I'd like to see what he can do leading an opposition ruck around the field.
I'd like to drop Doc and Cripps to send a message but we can't go that far, so Doc, as much as I love him, he has to serve penance for his lack of defensive running. Similarly, bugger this negative tagging bullshit. Curnow isn't doing the jobs he used to do and while he will run defensively, he has to start making way for others. I want the enthusiasm of younger players who want to take ownership of this team.
Plowman Weitering Williamson
Saad Jones Newman
Kemp Kennedy Fisher
Honey McKay Owies
Betts Cripps Silvagni
De Koning Dow Walsh
Setterfield O'Brien Williams Stocker
Sub: Martin
Out: Docherty Murphy Curnow Pittonet Cottrell Newnes (was sub)
In: Plowman Williamson Kemp Kennedy Honey O'Brien
Playing Cripps forward unless the midfield are failing dismally. I'd rather have players that some say aren't ready, instead of keeping the same players that aren't willing.
This will rattle some cages.
You're suggesting we add Plowman to the midfield rotation so that we have yet another player we can complain about being consigned to the back pocket instead of the midfield?That's my worry too. I would like to see him around the ball a bit more without taking a midfielder spot. Unless Kennedy or Setterfield do some rucking. He'll, I'd even use Plowman as I'd like to see him controlling the middle of the ground too.
I'm going to put it this way: I think TDK should take the centre stoppages, before folding in ahead of the ball (and if Pitto plays, behind to play a kick behind) and we should play one of Jack, Jones, Plow, McGovern, Kennedy at the stoppages as a ruckman and rely less on overwhelming taps dominance and more on good defensive positioning both around the stoppage and 40m corridor and boundary side of the stoppage. Try and win the centre clearances outright, but around the ground make the default to be an effort for the opposition to win cleanly regardless of the quality of their taps, and if they want to go quick with a snap kick from within we'll be set up downfield.I agree with most of what you wrote above, except for dropping the 2nd ruck, as I don't think TDK is up to the full time role yet and Crippa cannot play FF, it's just such a waste. So Kennedy does not make it, and Crippa plays in the center/RR. TDK at CHF and, for all his faults, our best ruck ATM, Pitto, plays ruck.
(also on the fence about dropping EC, it's good to have that tool in the satchel to nullify he oppo best player, but understand your reasoning)
Doc and Murph should do time in the 2nds. (I'm pretty strong on Murph dropped forever) Crippa is on shaky ground, but held to very high standards.
Anyone who ever has read my thoughts about Jack Silvagni over the journey will know that I compare him more to Serge then Steve. He is an old fashioned ruck rover by nature and ability and effort. Maybe a better term is even more old fashioned; he is a natural 'follower'. While he has classs and smarts in the forward line, can be capable and dependable in the back line, I believe he would shine in an on ball position. Strong enough to bullock in the clinches, tall enough to mark around the ground, smart and sharp with release handballs, a usefull and incitefull field kick. His major weakness is his goal kicking. So perhaps he could provide the 'Griggs' Role from time to time. It gives us a much more versatile player around the ground, while giving up any potential ascendency at the ruck contests. (not that we actually have any)
I would make Weiters captain next year and let Doc and Crippa just concentrate on being the best they can be.