Round 13 Discussion Thread (Dedicated to Requiem)

How many starters do you have for Rd13?


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gutsroy

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Thursday, June 13

Adelaide Crows vs. Richmond (AO) (N)

The bloodthirsty jackals amongst us will be following the whiff of blood oozing from partially healed wounds of the Sloanedog Millionaire and Matt ‘The Less ****’ Crouch, both of whom can be safely targeted after their byes, preferably swooping on them in a dynamic, ballistic motion. You mongrel dogs.

They say that parting is such sweet sorrow. This is a feeling owners of the man, the myth, the money-making legend Reilly O’Brien know only too well as they prepare to say goodbye to the People’s Ranga .

Those who took the chance and traded out an underperforming R2 and had him on-field made out like bandits as he gave sensational output for the price and allowed an easy upgrade on another line. He benefited this week from coming up against Mumford, who is showing signs of needing a freshen-up and is giving up handy scores to opposition rucks. ROB should score adequately against the Tiger’s young tag team, but may not go extremely big in his swansong performance. Vaya con dios, big Reilly.
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It was a dirty night for Adelaide’s DEF eligibles. Wayne Milera, a popular low-price addition in rd 12 to replace Lachie Whitfield, left owners slightly disappointed. Milera can only score via volume in SC given his more outside game. Despite his 30 possessions, he turned the ball over a few times and was not prominent when the game was on the line, going a fair way to explaining his sub-70. Still, he was the only Crow to record 9/9 CBAs in the last quarter, so he will get his chances and should improve.

Rory Laird also underwhelmed slightly, turning in an 80-odd. Brodie Smith struggled to have any impact, with GWS’s Isaac Cumming, aka the Cumm Express, at times playing a defensive role on him. His season-long average remains good for the starting price at 86.5 but has been dropping of late, bringing a decision ever closer. Those with Marty Hore and OK bye clearance will be pondering flicking Smith instead.

For the Tigers, all attention will be focused on paying last respects to perhaps the greatest SC leviathan – a man so monolithic that he had a bible story named after him before he was even born in anticipation of his feats, Noah ‘The Don’ Balta. In a touching nod to cricketing great Bradman, with whom Balta feels a strong sense of kinship and who finished with a test average below 100 at 99.94 after being dismissed for a duck in his final innings, Balta ensured his average at tradeout remained below 50 by defecating in the shape of a 29 and shedding around 15k in so doing.

With a high BE, he’s probably best traded out by those with no rd 13 bye clearance issues, potentially to a reasonably priced Robbie Gray / Justin Westhoff type (Gray might see more mid time, Westhoff could benefit from Dixon’s imminent return after the latter impressed in his SANFL return after the injury layoff) if funds are limited or a Boak / Ziebell / Dunkley type if funds permit. Many would have moved on Balta this week but could not due to bye clearance worries.

Bachar Houli, another popular trade-in target for the injured Whitfield, had owners worried early doors but ultimately recovered and posted a 93. Somewhat below his recent 130-average, but respectable. His ceiling is undoubted, but he represents some injury risk and the impact of Richmond’s upcoming fixture (several top sides) remains to be seen.

Dustin Martin fell just short of a ton, but has averaged 104 since his return from suspension (apparently he forgot to present the Brownlow medal as a ‘Get Out of Jail Free’ card, unlike Gary ‘Slightly Mistimed Bumper Bars, Nothing to See Here’ Ablett) and remains priced to average. With many strapped for cash and due to his undoubted ceiling, Martin is worth considering, but has a short-term injury cloud (corkie) and he will continue to spend time forward on the run home, where his output is less predictable.
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Patrick Naish impressed on debut and rewarded those prepared to bring him in pre-bubble. He will be a popular trade-in target this week for those needing liquidity to facilitate upgrades to rd 12 premos and in rd 15 for those waiting till he is on the bubble and adhering to more orthodox dogma.
 

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Essendon vs. Hawthorn (MRVL) (N)


Both sides will be targeted for trade-ins of premos fresh off the bye, some of whom come at a fairly attractive price point.

Hawthorn:

James Sicily at 492k will be a popular DEF addition and represents the best value /upside combination in the Hawks’ranks. There is potential for dickhead acts, but he is a crisp scorer and represents genuine upside at that price.

Ricky Henderson and Jaeger O’Meara have both had impressive seasons, but neither represents strong value at the current price and expected output unless you really like their remaining fixture.

James Worpel has been a solid starting pick but will attract limited interest as a trade-in and the ship has realistically already sailed on Jack Gunston, his price having rebounded after bottoming out recently.

Essendon:

Zach Merrett at 565k is essentially priced to average (110) and is a good option on paper, but those looking at him should monitor Dylan Shiel’s return / availability as Merrett benefits from Shiel drawing away opposition and his scoring has dipped slightly in Shiel’s absence.

In biological terms, Shiel is a shark and Merrett a pilot fish, gliding along in Shiel’s slipstream and feeding on the plentiful foodscraps (and shanked I50s).
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Darcy Parish has a 3-rd average of 110, but it would be a stretch for him to sustain it (his best chance would be a lot of games in the wet and / or Dylan Shiel missing games).

Dyson Heppell is a goer and a good Leongatha lad, but has never quite been a topliner and is best let go through to the keeper despite the rd 11 score.

Dylan Clarke (147k) will be a popular MID rookie trade-in after his excellent first up score in comprehensively outpointing Patrick Cripps on his way to a stellar 99. John Worsfold has shown little faith in him to date, however, so his JS is not a sure thing, but he will facilitate trades as a downgrade and the temptation to go early will be there for some.
 

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Saturday, June 15

Gold Coast SUNS vs. St Kilda (RS)

St Kilda also boasts some premos off the bye, the most notable being Rohan Marshall.

Marshall has averaged 100, has FWD status but is currently the no. 1 ruck and is still reasonably priced at 462k. There are legitimate concerns regarding his competitiveness in the ruck, but he compensates for this with his good contested work at ground level and marking around the ground.

Jack Billings is reasonably priced at 440k and a season average of 90, but is likely to attract limited interest. His average has dipped of late which will put many off. Part of that was due to being played more forward against the Power in Shanghai, most likely due to having been ill in the lead-up. If you think he will spend more time forward on the run home, avoid, if you think he’ll resume the role further up the ground, he should be solid. He at least hasn’t had to accept any special deliveries a la 2018 lately, he’s been genuinely good this year.

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Jack Newnes is in a similar category to James Worpel. Not bad at all as a starting pick,. but probably not one to buy into in the current market.

Dan Hannebery may be edging closer to a return. Probably better to wait and see exposed form there.

Gold Coast Suns:

Lachie Weller with his MID/DEF DPP is flying under the radar. He doesn’t represent ‘value’, but is scoring consistently and benefitting from a kick-in bonus. At 464k and with a low score of 87, he warrants a lot more interest than he has garnered to date.

Darcy ‘Son of Super’ MacPherson is a value pick for those who just want to see the world burn with his FWD status but midfield role and seemingly limitless supply of angry pills. Probably more one for Draft.

Jarrod Witts has had an excellent season, but is more an option in Fantasy, his connection with his mids not quite allowing him the HTA rate to reach topliner status in SC, and he is a low possession ruck.
 

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Fremantle vs. Port Adelaide (OS) (T)

Both sides here are fresh off the bye and chock full of premo / speculator goodness.

Dockers:

Nat Fyfe has been, well, Fyfe-like, and he not only scored well last up vs my mob, he also won them the game. Quality has its price, but 606k is good value for those without him and who aren’t worried by his tendency to miss games on the run home in recent years.

Those looking at David Old Man Mundy on the cheap need to wait two weeks realistically, he will bleed cash rds 13 and 14.

Michael Walters’ scoring has been solid this year (494k, 99 avg), durability and that knee posing some risk to temper the upside, as does the occasional undisciplined act.

Luke Ryan is another DEF benefitting from the kick-in bonus and has a very high ceiling. If you time your run well, he could be a great addition. But at a price of 525k, he’d want to be, to be honest.

Connor Blakely at 455k will attract less attention than he warrants. His score benefitted last week from increased TOG (90-odd, possibly due to Pearce’s injury / rotations). A 90 average is probably the base case, he starts to become more interesting if he can see time in the midfield as he regains full fitness.

Rory Lobb has been ruled out with injury (shame, in good nick) and likely to come back too late after most sides are finalized, if he returns at all in 2019.

Those who went early on Brett Bewley and those considering the 117k MID rookie will be anxiously awaiting team selections, with Stephen Hill and Harley Bennell both inching closer to availability for selection. Bewley’s JS beyond rd 13 seems anything but assured as a result.

Port Adelaide:

Travis Boak has put together one hell of a spike season and keeps on keeping on. 518k for a 112k average is in Brian’s Bargains territory, even if you think he’ll only go a touch above 100 from here, he’s viable.

The Tom Rockliff Experience ™ will always give you value for money, the world’s best rollercoaster. If you suffer from high blood pressure and / or are averse to pork, though, best to steer clear of the People’s Piglet. If you’ve got him, hold. If you don’t, probably look elsewhere.

Robbie Gray (406k, 88 3-rd avg, 112 in rd 11), Justin Westhoff (362k, 72 average, but potential to benefit from Dixie’s return), Scott Lycett (the man, the legend) and potentially Dan Houston with his DEF eligibility but playing in a mid role at 470k for a 5-rd 99 average could all attract attention, but with Ollie Wines and Brad Ebert to return, it’s hard to know who will be playing where and who will be making way.
 
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Carlton vs. Western Bulldogs (MRVL) (N)

Carlton:


Carlton plays its final game prior to the byes, so there’s not really a heap to talk about:

Sam Walsh’s high score might have some pondering whether they hold on to him longer. Horses for courses.

Liam Stocker was an out, apparently due to a foot problem, there doesn’t seem to be much more info on it. Keep an eye out for Tuesday’s injury updates.

Patrick Cripps was outstanding but needed to show something after some pretty insipid recent outings.

Mick Gibbons’ ton was hugely welcome for those fielding him (and pointed to some upside potential if the groundbreaking idea of playing a JJ Liston Medal winning mid in the bloody guts instead of wasting him in a forward pocket is further explored, ffs).
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Western Bulldogs:

The Dogs present a veritable smorgasboard of SC options, all subject to being ‘Beveridged’ at the drop of a hat and turning to **** in the blink of an eye.

Caleb Daniel: Probably the most reliable and stable, listed as a FWD but being played down back and benefitting from the kick-in bonus and the SC scoring system placing a premium on excellent DE and decision making. At 485k for a 101 average, he even represents slight ‘value’ at the price.

Josh Dunkley: Currently ripping heads off and defecating down the throats of his hapless victims with a stellar 5-rd average of 120, 565k is a decent value proposition given his DPP. But if Lord Farquaad spins the magnets again and he ends up forward, that will nosedive as his skills are not sharp enough, he lives and dies on the contested stuff.

Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli: Both have some question marks as to their Super-Premo chops this year, not so much due to form / ability, again more due to Bevo flinging the magnets around.

Ryan Gardner represents a handy downgrade target for some with his FWD/DEF DPP and 102k bargain basement price. If he misses selection down the track, he may be useful for looping given the Dogs’ late round games on the run home. Doesn’t shape as a huge money spinner, but will suit some.

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Sunday, June 16

North Melbourne vs. GWS GIANTS (BA)

North Melbourne:

With Shaun Higgins likely out for a while with a shoulder AC injury, Jack Ziebell appears the pick of the crop for the Kangaroos this week. He should remain affordable this week despite the 133 given he went into rd 12 with a 119 BE. Should be somewhere around the 473k mark.

Ben Cunnington continues to sustain the run of outstanding scoring and his ownership deserves to be way higher than it is. At some stage we need to stop living in the past and accept that this seems to be his year.

GWS:

Leon Cameron is poised to take receipt of the biggest bag of dicks going around after he and his band of merry ******s ****** SuperCoaches around the nation over with their tiresome antics. Lachie Whitfield was apparently super-duper and had only copped a stinger, only to then have the collarbone break during the week in an apparently completely unrelated hefty sneezing incident. Pig’s arse, Leon.

Toby Greene wasn’t even listed in the injuries, then was a late out at the death due to an injury he had clearly sustained the week before and Greater Western ****heads had tried to hide as part of their 4D chess nonsense.

And just to make sure the collateral damage was as large as possible, The Ferrari Driver put out a smokescreen that Jackson Hately was the travelling emergency most likely only to then go Dan Lloyd, screwing anyone who had brought Hately in as cover / to make sure they copped his first price rise.

The contract on Cameron has been put out, several gunmen have promised to do it pro bono as a community service. ScoMo has indicated Order of Australia honours are most certainly in play.

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Tim Taranto was the standout for the Giants vs the Crows with 131 points, Josh Kelly and Zac Williams also solid, both going for 106. Stephen Coniglio and Jeremy Cameron were both underwhelming, Cameron ekeing out a 70 thanks to a 4th quarter mark and goal in a close game, Coniglio getting plenty of it but butchering it a bit to return to earth with a thud on 64 after last week’s huge double century.

Given the upcoming bye, Giants players likely won’t attract a huge amount of trade-in interest this week.
 

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Saturday, June 15

Gold Coast SUNS vs. St Kilda (RS)

St Kilda also boasts some premos off the bye, the most notable being Rohan Marshall.

Marshall has averaged 100, has FWD status but is currently the no. 1 ruck and is still reasonably priced at 462k. There are legitimate concerns regarding his competitiveness in the ruck, but he compensates for this with his good contested work at ground level and marking around the ground.

Jack Billings is reasonably priced at 440k and a season average of 90, but is likely to attract limited interest. His average has dipped of late which will put many off. Part of that was due to being played more forward against the Power in Shanghai, most likely due to having been ill in the lead-up. If you think he will spend more time forward on the run home, avoid, if you think he’ll resume the role further up the ground, he should be solid. He at least hasn’t had to accept any special deliveries a la 2018 lately, he’s been genuinely good this year.

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Jack Newnes is in a similar category to James Worpel. Not bad at all as a starting pick,. but probably not one to buy into in the current market.

Dan Hannebery may be edging closer to a return. Probably better to wait and see exposed form there.

Gold Coast Suns:

Lachie Weller with his MID/DEF DPP is flying under the radar. He doesn’t represent ‘value’, but is scoring consistently and benefitting from a kick-in bonus. At 464k and with a low score of 87, he warrants a lot more interest than he has garnered to date.

Darcy ‘Son of Super’ MacPherson is a value pick for those who just want to see the world burn with his FWD status but midfield role and seemingly limitless supply of angry pills. Probably more one for Draft.

Jarrod Witts has had an excellent season, but is more an option in Fantasy, his connection with his mids not quite allowing him the HTA rate to reach topliner status in SC, and he is a low possession ruck.
Young an almost certain OUT for the Saints. Corbett not sure but wouldn't be surprised if he's dropped too
 

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oh good a preview thread, just what the board needed. :rolleyes:
now all we need is a game day thread and a review thread so that **** can really be scattered all over the place.

nice work gutsroy but this belongs in Rd 13 discussion...you know, the threads that Jiska would normally close at this time of the week.
 

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What's everyone's projection for this week? I'm looking at a best case scenario of 17 players with a projected score of 1,642.... :poo:
Best not to look at projected scores this week, it's demoralising. The best projected I can get is 1670 lol
 
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