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He spent 90% of the game on the ground.
Even the goal he dished off to Pavlich he slipped over first.
Review Round 14 - Fremantle d Brisbane by 36 points
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He spent 90% of the game on the ground.
Even the goal he dished off to Pavlich he slipped over first.
How did you figure that?
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Dislike: Mzungu left out yet again, with only 3 disposals for Tabs.
Tabs might only have had 3 disposals but he led to good positions and made a lot of contests in the first half. Most of the time he had 2 guys on him, which shows he's definitely doing his job structurally.
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Wasn't so much mental fragility as it's pretty bloody hard to kick goals in pouring rain with a wet, heavy ball.
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There is no excuse for the game being as close as it was for 3 quarters but it is true that wet weather simplifies the game and gives weaker teams that have no skills or structures a chance against better teams.
Wet weather footy comes down to effort and any player regardless of talent is capable of bringing this. That's why players that lack skill but work hard like De Boer and Suban perform better in the wet.
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It didn't help that there were so many times when our mids were kicking it to Tabs against 2 or even 3 guys.
Perhaps it was a different ball, but it didn't affect Luenberger. Kicked his not long after all of our shockers in the second quarter from much further out and on much more of an angle.
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It's still possible to fluke one properly when it's raining. But it makes it far more likely that you stuff the kick because rain and wind affect the flight of the ball from hand to foot, hands are slippery, boots and socks are wet and heavy, not to mention the ball itself.
Probably all the confidence the umps were feeding him
Heard before the game that Ballantyne switched to long studs today so maybe the other players did too and the difference threw them. Ball seemed to slew off the boot every time. The string of misses in the third were near identical. Ballas didn't slip over today but his kicking was exceptionally poor.
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Better today than next week.
Maybe that's what Luke meant by poor preparation at half time. Guys probably trained with their usual boots and decided to wear screw ins today after being convinced by Ross.
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Disagree ydraw. Football is a winter sport, always has been. If it was blowing a gale and swirly maybe you could excuse one or two of those easy misses but it wasn't.
That was not a product of weather, it was a product of a team lacking confidence in front of goal.
There are times when you can almost see the fear in their eyes. When they snap instinctively, without time to think about it they seem much better.
Shades of Ian Baker-Finch trying to get out of a bunker!
I agree re: hard workers but not on the skill level. The higher skilled players are still higher skilled than the rest even though their level drops. So everyone's level drops relatively.
It was Spurr, Duff, Walters, Ibbo, Mundy (our skilled players) that won us the game today and that'll always be the case.
You're spot on about wet weather simplifying the game and that's why Brisbane stayed in the game for so long. They played the simple wet weather style but we played complicated dry weather footy for 2 quarters i.e. win the hard ball, automatically look to handball backwards then handball 2 or 3 more times until one of two things happen;
1. Turn it over
2. Kick it down field under pressure (which the initial winner of the hard ball could've done)
So we only had ourselves to blame. We could've/should've killed them off earlier and the margin should've been much, much more.
Think about this - would any other Top 4 team in the Afl at the moment play Tabs in their forward line if they had him? Probably not..
That's my suspicion; even with the rain affected games we've had this year I think today was the first time we've changed up the boots. Happy to be corrected.
Unfortunately other top 4 teams have better tall forwards than us. It is either we change our structure or we keep playing Tabs.
(Or A Pearce in the forward line when Dawson and MJ are ready
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It was raining so hard in the 2nd quarter than the players couldn't see 5 meters in front of them.
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If they didn't have anyone else? Probably.
Our forwards looked bog average while Lyon allowed Brisbane two spare players across half back. They then ran the ball out of our back 50 by linking handball and kicked the ball over our zone. They also held one defender goal side of forwards so when we tried the same, we often kicked to their spare defender.
When Lyon finally manned these spare defenders up. We dominated. He should of manned them up towards the end of the first quarter. Very poor coaching performance. But, the guy is much smarter than I , and his footy brain is impeccable. I actually wonder whether he's hiding our ball movement from opposition coaches by allowing the team to play under duress. I wonder if he thought we need to be better against a team playing a spare defended. So let it roll for 3/4.
When Lyon finally manned these spare defenders up. We dominated. He should of manned them up towards the end of the first quarter. Very poor coaching performance. But, the guy is much smarter than I , and his footy brain is impeccable. I actually wonder whether he's hiding our ball movement from opposition coaches by allowing the team to play under duress. I wonder if he thought we need to be better against a team playing a spare defended. So let it roll for 3/4.
Hawks play the Shoemaker, WC have played first year defenders and Sydney bought theirs for millions. He's pretty much all we have, so we all need to get used to it for now.
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Taberner played because he needs the experience - rail, hail or shine. You can't develop a young player by resting him every time it rains. If the focus was on a percentage boosting win, he wouldn't have played.
It doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is if he improves our team.
In the dry he probably does - but in the rain he should have been a late out.
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