Discussion Round 15 Discussion (Dedicated to Better Loosen Up)

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Thursday, June 27 Essendon vs. GWS GIANTS (MRVL) (N)

Essendon

Darcy Parish’s
bubble burst to an extent against the Eagles, turning in an underwhelming 70. His 5-rd average remains a respectable 103, which is OK value at the price (507k) and he comes with DPP, but with other FWD (eligible) options (e.g Menegola, Hawkins) in the offing and him not representing huge value, he’ll likely attract modest interest.
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Michael Hurley started off the game very strongly, racking up 56 pts to halftime, but slowed dramatically in the second half to end on 74. At 477k and with a 3-rd average of 103, he remains a POD option, but with Rich and Laird in the range, e.g., there are alternatives.

Dyson Heppell and Dylan Shiel are not SC-relevant as MIDs on the run home and Pidge McGrath has also remained below expectations and is only an option, but only if you want to pay tribute to Glenn McGrath (and let’s face it, why would you, the bloke is an unsportingkiller of defenceless animals, but still potentially as better bloke than Dave Warner).

Many will have gone Dylan Clarke as a downgrade target to facilitate maintaining the upgrade cadence. He was reasonable with a 59 for a 66k price rise and a new BE of -9 in a midfield which was given a bit of a touch-up, and master motivator John Worsfold again s**tcanned him for all the world to see in the post-match press conference, which doesn’t instill much confidence in his mid-term JS or do a heap for his self-belief.
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GWS:

The Giants are coming off the bye and tend to perform better at Marvel than at the G (let’s face it, it would be hard to fare much worse, the Manangatang-Tooleybuc U13 reserves would go them close at the home of football).

Josh Kelly comes at a pricey 651k off the back of a 5-rd average of 130. It is a steep price and many will be looking more to fallens such as Rory Sloane or Matt Crouch, but those looking for a topliner to fill their final MID slot might go him in preference. His ceiling is huge, his fixture friendly.

Stephen Coniglio comes in at 568k and a BE of 143 as the 204 falls out of the 3-rd rolling average. If you’re looking for a high-ceiling type, he could be an option, but he is not the most durable and options such as Sloane, Zorko and the like offer similar or better prospects at a lower price.

Lachie Whitfield seems unlikely to play, but he was listed as 1-2 weeks in last week’s injury report. He’ll likely drop to around 520k when he comes back, so is one to monitor for the final D slot in rd 16/17(?)

Zac Williams has been a mixed bag as a starting pick, his scoring in general great when fit, but he does miss games and the best ability is availability at the end of the day. He is as hard as a cat’s head and fearless, which unfortunately tends to result in the odd injury. At 503k with a 49 BE and a 5-rd average of 109, he is a really good buy on paper - as long as you have decent cover (e.g. SP Logue) if he misses.

Tim Taranto is averaging 108 and has flown largely under the radar. At a price of 554k, he is marginally overs, but apart from a 67, 71 and a 96, his scoring is consistent and he has racked up 4 130+ scores, which is a pretty fair clip.

Jeremy Cameron is the Antichrist and perhaps the first invertebrate to play in the AFL. He tips the scales at 455k and a BE of 145 thanks to his complete inability to work over a decent KPD in recent weeks. The citizens of Dartmoor feel a deep sense of shame that big Jezza has brought on them with his general softness and lack of non-softness. Did I mention that he’s soft?

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Toby Greene decided to grace us with his presence in rd 13, having been pulled out at the death in rd 12 thanks to Leon Cameron’s bulls**t hijinks. He got in a few fights, snagged a couple of nice goals and refrained from giving anyone a 21-stud salute on the way to a decent 103. He costs 393k and is great value for anyone looking for an alternative to expensive medication to combat low blood pressure.

Jackson Hately has gone on a hunger strike to protest at jokers like Dan Lloyd getting a run in preference to him and will likely pass away before The Ferrari Driver relents and gives him a go in the guts, where he belongs.
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Yeah, nah, we’re not actually going to pick Hately lol. Haha, got you blokes a deadset beauty.
 

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Friday, June 28 Geelong Cats vs. Adelaide Crows (GMHBA) (N)


The Cats once again failed to overcome their post-bye hoodoo, falling to a Power side which responded to the midweek selection shakeups in style. The Crows were on the bye last week.

Geelong:

Sides with cash gen issues and / or looking at exploiting value might look to push a Patrick Dangerfield into the MIDs on the run home. He doesn’t come cheap at 587k, but that’s probably not super relevant as it’s likely only ghost ships that aren’t running Dangermouse at this stage. He’s not getting any cheaper in the short run with a BE of 58, for what it’s worth.

Tim Kelly copped attention on the weekend and his score suffered as a result. He finished with a minor flourish to salvage a 76. At 552k, with a BE of 130 and with a season average of 106, he’s marginally overpriced and those with only one spot to fill up forward might look more to a Travis Boak at essentially the same price, e.g..

The bloke flying under most radars this season is Mitch Duncan. He’ll set you back 573k and is MID only, but he is going at a very solid 111 clip on the year and shows no signs of slowing. Those with him would love to have a beer with Duncan, I’ll give you the tip.

Sam Menegola should hopefully be returning soon and might be one to watch for those cash strapped and looking for a cheap F7 / M9 with proven upside. He will set you back 419k when he does and has a BE of 64, but most would probably want to see a bit of exposed form before committing.

Tom Stewart is the Old Faithful of the backline this year. He takes a lot of kick-ins, even with Zac Tuohy back in the side, plays on from around 40% of those, is a good intercepter and at 495k for a 101 average is solid as, simple as that. His ownership is unbelievably low against that backdrop, but is poised to increase in final upgrade season.

Tom Hawkins had a dirty day, scoring a paltry 24 as Tom Clurey shut him down completely. Up until now he has been the model of consistency for a KPF, though, and in two weeks’ time he might have dropped as low as 400k-odd and would be a handy FWD trump on the way home for those who can find a way to squeeze him in (pro tip: try spraying him with canola oil first)..

Gryan Miers and Jordan Clark should be ushered away to the abattoir quick sticks for those still holding, Tom Atkins has really gotten a second wind and posted a great 82 vs the Power. Big Darcy Fort was no match for a rampaging Scott Lycett and will probably make way for Esava Ratugloea sooner rather than later, but did make owners 63k on the weekend as he contributed a 53.

Adelaide:

Rory Sloane
represents some of the best value going around this week, bottoming out after the 35 due to the hamstring tweak against the Dees in rd 11. 511k for a bloke with an injury corrected 115 average is highway robbery. With a BE of 75, he likely won’t be this cheap again.

Matt Crouch has also bottomed out at 484k and is a reliable, reasonable cost M8 option.

Brad Crouch, with a season average of 100 on the back of the great 127 in rd 11 and 129 in rd 13, actually costs more than Rory Sloane at 524k this week. Those who held onto Tom Liberatore throughout the byes will feel a bit aggrieved that Libba fell at the final hurdle as Crouch surged to the line, but that’s just the way the cookie crumbles. There could be some arbitrage plays with Crouch for those with enough trades left.

Wayne Milera has been terribly disappointing in his last two outings. It’s is also worth noting that he and Wayne’s World have never been seen in the same room at the same time. Coincidence? You decide.

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Those who brought him in have to hope that the rumours going around about him having had the flu in rd 13 are true, as this might explain his 51 in that game. The role appears reasonable, but realistically he’s going to have to come home like Puffing Billy to even catch up the points lost for his owners, the ship having already sailed in terms of him being a positive POD this year, but he is a talent.

Brodie Smith’s zenith was probably reached in rds 4-7. He has shed value and sits at 401k and with a BE of 115. Would be a luxury tradeout for most, the trade poor might look at ways to loop him with a Logue type on the run home and hope for the best.

Rory Laird is a solid DEF option at 506k and with a 99.3 average. Those looking for a POD are best advised to look elsewhere, though, he’s in around 40% of teams.

Reilly O’Brien is the greatest ruckman in VFL/AFL history, he has spuds Gawn and Grundy covered by the length of the Flemington Straight and, rumour has it, smells of musk, with a hint of saffron. He’s at 446k and with his BE of -21 and the gargantuan 181 of rd 13 in his pocket, could rise to around 520k-odd.
 
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Saturday, June 29 Hawthorn vs. West Coast Eagles (MCG)

Hawthorn:

Ricky Henderson
ran around like an unregistered dog once more (but a lovable one, like old Red Dog out in the Pilbara), the silver fox smashing out a stellar 119. He season average now sits at 105, which is about correct weight for his 531k price.

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This has nothing to with Ricky or SC, I just reckon Red Dog was a goer.

Dylan Moore put in a solid outing with a 68. His price has risen to 243k and he might nudge up to 280k or a touch above for those holding. He’s not a super-talent, but runs all day (when fu**stick Clarko actually gifts him a bit of TOG) and has a red hot crack.

Jack Gunston is a FWD option some may look at now that he has dropped back down to 411k, but you’d have to be a little worried by the way the Hawks are currently travelling.

Jaeger O’Meara (430k) returned to form with a 96, the Worpedo (451k) underwhelmed marginally with a 71.

But the real story was James Sicily. Played forward by lying campaigner Rumpelstitskin, big SicDawg floundered, giving away several FAs and just not generally having any impact at that end of the ground. His price has plummeted to 464k (75 BE). Those who brought him in off his bye can almost consider him a write-off, those without would be advised to look elsewhere for the time being.

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West Coast:

The Eagles’ midfielders feasted on the carcass of a sadly limp Essendon side, the Dons really only staying within striking distance for a while due to very errant kicking for goal from the Coasters.

Luke Shuey scored a 122, taking his 5-rd average to 111, but at 539k he’s not likely to attract massive interest.

Elliot Yeo was in sparkling form and has a 5-rd average of 120. When he’s on streaks like this, Yeo is great to own. He tips the scales at 584k, which is a steep price, so you must believe he will maintain the rage if you bring him in. He is low ownership, so those looking for a POD and with plenty of cash in their kick might be keen.

Andrew Gaff scored 89, getting a heap of the ball but not using it that effectively (he is actually among the poorer users in the side by foot, for what it’s worth). 89 represents his (pretty high) floor. He would set you back 557k and has a BE of 134, so there’s no huge rush on him this week.

Shannon Hurn also remained below expectations with a 92. That was not so much due to poor form, it was more that the ball wasn’t down that end as much and there were comparatively few kick-ins to profit from. He’s currently at 570k, but with a BE of 160, you’ll likely see him drop to around 545k next week if you can wait. (If you think that the Eagles have an easy run home, you might want to discount his projected average slightly.)

Dom Sheed’s 148 as listed on the site was a mistake. He of course does not exist, ladies and kentlemen, as we have patiently explained to the SC nerds on multiple occasions. How about those Flag-Pies!
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Sydney Swans vs. Gold Coast SUNS (SCG) (T)

Sydney Swans:

Lance Franklin
was a fairly popular trade-in during the week on the back of his sparkling form against the Eagles. Sadly, he re-tore his hamstring and faces several weeks on the sidelines. It’s pretty crook luck for those who brought him in specifically for that period, really rough. Must trade out unless seriously strapped for trades.

Luke Parker again dominated and his impact was not dented by the return of JPK. He scored 138, his 5-rd average is a mammoth 135, and this is reflected in his 632k asking price. It’s always risky jumping on a bloke that deep into a form surge, but by Christ he’s looked crisp.

Jake Lloyd and Dane Rampe both went fine, churning out a 105 and 100 respectively. Lloyd will set you back 599k and has a very achievable BE of 114, Rampe 543k with a BE of 74 (if you think he can keep on trucking).

Isaac Heeney remained mediocre in output, although he looked OK at times. He did cop a knock and had lowish TOG. At this stage, those with are stuck with him and just have to hope for one or two spike games from here to at least be able to wash down the s**t sandwich with a semi-palatable chaser. It’s noty his fault, he’s banged up, but it just hasn’t clicked.

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Gold Coast Suns:

Lachie Weller
with his MID/DEF DPP, doesn’t represent ‘value’, but is scoring consistently and benefitting from a kick-in bonus. At 474k and a 95 5-rd average, he remains an interesting alternative for those planning on / forced to retain Xavier Duursma for a swingset, for example.

Darcy ‘Son of Super’ MacPherson and Jarrod Witts both registered slightly underwhelming scores against the Saints. They are there or thereabouts but don’t really warrant selection as we gear up to play for sheep stations come SC finals.
 
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Collingwood vs. North Melbourne (MRVL) (N)

Collingwood

The English Patient
was declared dead on arrival as those hoping to bring in Brodie Grundy on the cheap with his BE at 198 going into the round were left wondering what might have been as he compiled a huge 174 off more than 50 hitouts, 25 disposals and 2 goals (one of which resulted from an incorrect free kick at a critical stage). He needed to show something after being soundly beaten by Max Gawn prior to his bye and did. He’s priced at 668k with a BE of 138, which he is every chance to hit.

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Stop, Brodie! Stop! He’s already dead.

Scott Undependlebury put in another subpar performance, barely scraping together a 71. It is rumoured he did this as an act of solidarity with the injured Taylor Adams (who is still two weeks off) by butchering every second possession to make Tay feel part of it. It has been a famine / feast season for him, either going huge or somewhere in the 70-80 range. He’s slumped to 534k with a BE of 168 and a 102 average. He could be one to look at in 2-3 wks for the run home, but not for now.

Adam Treloar boasts a better average (107, getting a slight boost off this week’s 117) ) and comes much cheaper at 502k, and with a BE of 77, he’s bottomed out for now . It will come down to a race in three for many people’s final value mid slot – The Bont, Barbecues Treloar and The Sloane Ranger.

Jordan De Goey surprisingly only scored 70 despite being influential at times. This underscores that he’s just not value at his current price of 465k, even though he can be great to watch when on.

Steele Sidebottom would only be relevant to those needing a cut price ultra-POD at 479k and a 3-rd avg of 101.

Jack Crisp finally posted a good score after a recent lean patch this year with a 109. At 447k and with an 90 average, he’s still a bit of a nothing pick in SC. Still, it was a heartening effort for his owners.
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North Melbourne:

With Shaun Higgins likely out for a while with a shoulder AC injury, Jack Ziebell (493k FWD, 70 BE) appears OK value up forward. His last outing resulted in an 80 against a very strong GWS midfield.

Ben Cunnington is one to eye off next week if you can. He scored a 68 due to heavy attention from Matt DeBoer against GWS in rd 13, but did SuperCoaches around the nation a solid in contributing to DeBoer’s shoulder fracture which will see DeBoer miss weeks and make targets such as Zac Merrett more viable. Cunners has dropped to 569k with a BE of 146, so you might be able to grab him for around 550k in rd 16.

Bailey Scott has suffered a bone fracture in his left foot. If you have enough trades and a downgrade target you like the look of, trade – else hold on to him and try to make him work as a looper in the MIDs.

Nick Larkey will likely have been traded out last week by most. At 272k and with a BE of 67, he’s treading water unless he's your only avenue to FWD cover and you have -15 trades.
 
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Port Adelaide vs. Western Bulldogs (AO) (N)

Port Adelaide:

Travis Boak
let nobody down with a sparkling 118. He’s now priced at 553k with a BE of 89 and has been worth every cent and then some for those who put aside conventional wisdom and jumped pn board The Love Boak early doors.

Tom Rockliff has sadly backfired badly on anyone who held. He’s turned into one of those cases like Josh Kelly last year, always a week away but never named. If you’ve held this long and think he will be back next week you can hold if low on trades, but the temptation will be to punt him.

Robbie Gray (472k, 112 3-rd avg, 112 in rd 14) has been a great recruit for those who grabbed him at 391/ 406k recently. He’s got a nice role with Wines on limited TOG and Rocky on the sidelines.

Justin Westhoff (372k) was finally poised to benefit from Charlie Dixon’s return and resume a roaming commission, only to be given the arse along with Paddy Ryder in what was outwardly a selection shock. Those in need of him as an F6/7 with R2 cover potential will be flat as they’ve put up with the bad times and not profited from the good, as it stands.

Scott Lycett was a man possessed against the Catters, a bravura 181 the result. To be fair, he might as well have been up against Bill and Ben the Flowerpot Men, as he destroyed Rhys Stanley and Darcy Fort. He rose nigh on 70k, is up to 496k and has a BE of 3. Those who read the tealeaves last week nailed it, for the rest of us he’s realistically probably a pass for now.

Dan Houston with his DEF eligibility but playing in a mid role rebounded from a disappointing rd 13 score to register a 110. at 469k for a 3-rd 94 average. With Port’s MID outs, he is still at the margins but has some undeniable hipster appeal.
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Lycett and Fort lock horns

Western Bulldogs:

Caleb Daniel:
Rock solid in his output once more, albeit with several lapses in decision-making and execution, he is one of the main beneficionados of the kick-in bonus and the SC scoring system placing a premium on good DE and decision making. He has risen to 532k, which is reasonable for his 103 average on the season and 107 5-rd avg.

Josh Dunkley: Those who traded Dunkley in will have been a little disappointed by his 101, but in reality, this was an excellent comeback after an early head clash with a teammate. Dunkley scored 50 points in the last quarter, all absolutely deserved as it was on the back of repeated contested efforts and defensive acts like smothers at the coalface. Bloody impressive, tbh, it was a fair old head knock.

Jackson Macrae scored 148 to go with his 150 in rd 13. He was terrific all night and has been great value for those who snaffled him since he bottomed out at 574k back in rd 8, his 5-rd average sitting at 122. He’ll set you back 592k and has a low BE of 53, so he will rise again.

Marcus Bontempelli: is cheap for his output of 112 on the season at 524k, a genuine Sloane alternative - but if / when the Dogs are no longer in finals contention, Magneto will find a way to ruin his output.

Ryan Gardner represents a downgrade target for some with his FWD/DEF DPP and 102k bargain basement price, but only as a looper (e.g. for any planning on using Darcy Moore as cover) with an outside chance of getting the odd game.
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This dickhead reckons I should hold on to Moore as FWD/DEFcover…. prick's lost the plot.

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Do you have a policy of not trading in any faultbots over $2.50 mate?
Nah I'm just a scrub who doesn't have many trades left to fix my team. I'm a bargain hunter!

They've worked out well for me this year. Witherden, Crisp, Rockliff, Milera, going really well
 
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