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Autopsy Round 16 - West Coast Eagles v GWS Giants, 2.40pm AWST 8 July 2018, Optus Stadium
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From LoTG's preview thread:
How to grade the win against the Hawks? Overall, probably B+.
Leon thought the first half some of the best football we’ve played this season. The first quarter, maybe, but kicking 1.8 in the second didn’t exactly help the cause. It was the main reason we had 11 more scoring shots and won by only that margin.
The other thing was the way Hawthorn scored so easily. Our goals seemed to require much more effort, relying more on individual brilliance than precision passing and kicking in general play. Still, we were able to get on top when it mattered.
I thought as a club we responded very well to the situation with Jeremy. That kind of drama is a real test of collective maturity, and we haven’t let it become a distraction. A good sign.
Now for next week.
Listening to ABC Grandstand on the way home, Whitfield said that every game from now on was like a final. So it sounds like the team are getting themselves right mentally, which is good segue for the Eagles in Perth.
Early season front-runners, West Coast are now in a spot of bother. The Swans burst their bubble a few weeks ago, but it was the loss to Essendon at home that really would have sent shock waves into them. They’re coming off a third consecutive loss to the Crows and will almost certainly again be without their “twin towers”, Jack Darling and Josh Kennedy. They’ll be more nervous than they care to admit.
As for our own line up, we seem to be in a reasonably good place at the moment. I like the way Dawson Simpson is settling into the team. He allows us to send Lobb and Patton forward, which had the desired effect at critical moments last night. I think he’s good for our structure. And Himmelburg, who is usually excoriated on these threads, also had a good game and was one of our best-on-ground.
In other news, the NEAFL team had a strong win yesterday. Matt Buntine and Adam Kennedy were again among the best, so they might give us some flexibility down back or on the wing if needed. But with no fresh injuries
, and none of the big name outs available for at least another month, I don’t think there will be too many changes.
We weren’t that un-competitive against West Coast back in Round 8, and the trip across the Nullabor is never easy. But while it's going to be difficult, if we continue to show the same work ethic as the Adelaide and Hawthorn games, we will probably win.
From afl.com.au
SUMMARY
If a week is a long time in football, then a month is an eternity – as these sides can attest. The Giants' finals ambitions were on a knife's edge but they have reeled off four straight wins either side of the bye and climbed to sixth on the ladder after getting past Hawthorn last round. Their star-studded midfield was prolific against the Hawks, dominating clearances (+23) and contested ball (+55), and looms as West Coast's stumbling block. The Eagles are in serious danger of squandering their excellent 10-1 start after three consecutive losses since the bye. Injuries to key players have hurt but West Coast's issues run deeper, with its inability to halt momentum and stem the bleeding costing it dearly in winnable games against Essendon and Adelaide. The Eagles' top-four spot will be in grave jeopardy if they can't muster victory at home on Sunday.
WHERE AND WHEN: Optus Stadium, Sunday, July 8, 2.40pm AWST
TV AND RADIO: Click here for broadcast guide
LAST FIVE TIMES
R8, 2018, West Coast 12.14 (86) d Greater Western Sydney 8.13 (61) at Spotless Stadium
1SF, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 19.11 (125) d West Coast 9.4 (58) at Spotless Stadium
R22, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 12.9 (81) d West Coast 9.4 (58) at Spotless Stadium
R10, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 14.14 (98) d West Coast 14.6 (90) at Subiaco Oval
R21, 2016, West Coast 14.13 (97) d Greater Western Sydney 14.12 (96) at Spotless Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. Jack Darling (four goals), Jake Waterman (three) and Josh Kennedy (two) combined for nine majors in the Eagles' gritty road win over the Giants in round eight. Andrew Gaff had 32 disposals and Jack Redden collected 29.
2. The Eagles averaged 100 points as they romped to a 10-1 record before the bye. But with leading goalkickers Darling, then Kennedy, then Mark LeCras succumbing to injury, that scoreboard output has dipped to 62 points in the past three losses.
3. The talent-laden Giants midfield could give the visitors the edge. Over the past three weeks, GWS has commanded clearances (+47) and ranks second in the AFL (40 per game) this season. West Coast is ninth (36.7).
4. West Coast holds a 6-2 record at Optus Stadium after losing to Essendon last start. The Giants have won on their past two trips to Perth after going down in their first six contests in the west.
5. If the Eagles are beaten it will be the first time since early in 2014 they have lost four games in a row. GWS is aiming for five consecutive wins for just the third time in club history.
6. While the Giants have some prime movers sidelined, their engine room bats deeper than most. Callan Ward (16thoverall), Josh Kelly (32), Dylan Shiel (33), Lachie Whitfield (48) and Stephen Coniglio (98) are ranked inside the top 100 of the Schick AFL Player Ratings and loom as the danger men for West Coast.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR …
Nic Naitanui. The talismanic ruckman has come under fire for not doing enough, especially when the game was on the line, against Adelaide and he needs to exert significant influence if the Eagles' onballers are to match it with GWS' star-studded group.
PREDICTION: Greater Western Sydney by 13 points
How to grade the win against the Hawks? Overall, probably B+.
Leon thought the first half some of the best football we’ve played this season. The first quarter, maybe, but kicking 1.8 in the second didn’t exactly help the cause. It was the main reason we had 11 more scoring shots and won by only that margin.
The other thing was the way Hawthorn scored so easily. Our goals seemed to require much more effort, relying more on individual brilliance than precision passing and kicking in general play. Still, we were able to get on top when it mattered.
I thought as a club we responded very well to the situation with Jeremy. That kind of drama is a real test of collective maturity, and we haven’t let it become a distraction. A good sign.
Now for next week.
Listening to ABC Grandstand on the way home, Whitfield said that every game from now on was like a final. So it sounds like the team are getting themselves right mentally, which is good segue for the Eagles in Perth.
Early season front-runners, West Coast are now in a spot of bother. The Swans burst their bubble a few weeks ago, but it was the loss to Essendon at home that really would have sent shock waves into them. They’re coming off a third consecutive loss to the Crows and will almost certainly again be without their “twin towers”, Jack Darling and Josh Kennedy. They’ll be more nervous than they care to admit.
As for our own line up, we seem to be in a reasonably good place at the moment. I like the way Dawson Simpson is settling into the team. He allows us to send Lobb and Patton forward, which had the desired effect at critical moments last night. I think he’s good for our structure. And Himmelburg, who is usually excoriated on these threads, also had a good game and was one of our best-on-ground.
In other news, the NEAFL team had a strong win yesterday. Matt Buntine and Adam Kennedy were again among the best, so they might give us some flexibility down back or on the wing if needed. But with no fresh injuries
, and none of the big name outs available for at least another month, I don’t think there will be too many changes.We weren’t that un-competitive against West Coast back in Round 8, and the trip across the Nullabor is never easy. But while it's going to be difficult, if we continue to show the same work ethic as the Adelaide and Hawthorn games, we will probably win.
From afl.com.au
SUMMARY
If a week is a long time in football, then a month is an eternity – as these sides can attest. The Giants' finals ambitions were on a knife's edge but they have reeled off four straight wins either side of the bye and climbed to sixth on the ladder after getting past Hawthorn last round. Their star-studded midfield was prolific against the Hawks, dominating clearances (+23) and contested ball (+55), and looms as West Coast's stumbling block. The Eagles are in serious danger of squandering their excellent 10-1 start after three consecutive losses since the bye. Injuries to key players have hurt but West Coast's issues run deeper, with its inability to halt momentum and stem the bleeding costing it dearly in winnable games against Essendon and Adelaide. The Eagles' top-four spot will be in grave jeopardy if they can't muster victory at home on Sunday.
WHERE AND WHEN: Optus Stadium, Sunday, July 8, 2.40pm AWST
TV AND RADIO: Click here for broadcast guide
LAST FIVE TIMES
R8, 2018, West Coast 12.14 (86) d Greater Western Sydney 8.13 (61) at Spotless Stadium
1SF, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 19.11 (125) d West Coast 9.4 (58) at Spotless Stadium
R22, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 12.9 (81) d West Coast 9.4 (58) at Spotless Stadium
R10, 2017, Greater Western Sydney 14.14 (98) d West Coast 14.6 (90) at Subiaco Oval
R21, 2016, West Coast 14.13 (97) d Greater Western Sydney 14.12 (96) at Spotless Stadium
THE SIX POINTS
1. Jack Darling (four goals), Jake Waterman (three) and Josh Kennedy (two) combined for nine majors in the Eagles' gritty road win over the Giants in round eight. Andrew Gaff had 32 disposals and Jack Redden collected 29.
2. The Eagles averaged 100 points as they romped to a 10-1 record before the bye. But with leading goalkickers Darling, then Kennedy, then Mark LeCras succumbing to injury, that scoreboard output has dipped to 62 points in the past three losses.
3. The talent-laden Giants midfield could give the visitors the edge. Over the past three weeks, GWS has commanded clearances (+47) and ranks second in the AFL (40 per game) this season. West Coast is ninth (36.7).
4. West Coast holds a 6-2 record at Optus Stadium after losing to Essendon last start. The Giants have won on their past two trips to Perth after going down in their first six contests in the west.
5. If the Eagles are beaten it will be the first time since early in 2014 they have lost four games in a row. GWS is aiming for five consecutive wins for just the third time in club history.
6. While the Giants have some prime movers sidelined, their engine room bats deeper than most. Callan Ward (16thoverall), Josh Kelly (32), Dylan Shiel (33), Lachie Whitfield (48) and Stephen Coniglio (98) are ranked inside the top 100 of the Schick AFL Player Ratings and loom as the danger men for West Coast.
IT'S A BIG WEEK FOR …
Nic Naitanui. The talismanic ruckman has come under fire for not doing enough, especially when the game was on the line, against Adelaide and he needs to exert significant influence if the Eagles' onballers are to match it with GWS' star-studded group.
PREDICTION: Greater Western Sydney by 13 points
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OK, fire up boys - we need a big game from everyone here to win this and stay on track for the final 8. Go GIANTS!!
Don't pay the perryman, don't even fix a price, don't pay the perryman... Until he gets you to the other side....
Wooooooaaaahhhhhhhh Ooooohhoohhhhhh
Wooooooaaaahhhhhhhh Ooooohhoohhhhhh
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Well, hopefully it's over the river Styx for the Eagles today!
[Edit: Metaphorically speaking, of course!]
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I tipped you guys, I win $5k if I finish first, only 4 wins off the leader, so I gotta be honest, you guys have found your form with your midfield back to together and ours is shot (and s**t at the best of times), NN will get pantsed today by whoever you ruck with, he can't even jump atm and shouldn't be playing.Well, hopefully it's over the river Styx for the Eagles today!
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I still think it will be a tough game, you guys have been good this year no matter who you've had out. But we are - of course - hoping that our recent good form from the midfield can do the job today. The one thing I hope for - for both teams - is no more injuries. Far prefer to see two full strength sides battle it out.
Gigantic
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C'mon boys let's win this one
Gigantic
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WTF are we doing hand balling it off when we've had a set shot in front?
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HH - the new WTF!
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Good standard of play.
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agree - looking solid, but need to work on our marking, WC have been unmarked more often than we like, thankfully they havent converted those...yet..
unlucky from HH, a goal on the siren would be a big boost.
Memo:
To: Giants players
Re: Team mates
SHANNON HURN IS NOT YOUR TEAM MATE. HE PLAYS FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
STOP F###KING KICKING IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!
To: Giants players
Re: Team mates
SHANNON HURN IS NOT YOUR TEAM MATE. HE PLAYS FOR THE OTHER SIDE.
STOP F###KING KICKING IT TO HIM!!!!!!!!
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Our poor kicking for goal is going to cost us this game.
Playing well enough to win. Just can't let them get a few goals up because then the 50k crowd gets involved. That's the point when west coast tend to force the floodgates open. Hold strong boys !!!
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11 scoring shots to 9 and 13 points down.
