I think most likely changes are Carlisle and Hanners out for Hind and Jones.
I think that might leave us a bit light on in the middle though with Hanners under done.
bring Savage or Webster in and play Coffield on a wing
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I think most likely changes are Carlisle and Hanners out for Hind and Jones.
I think that might leave us a bit light on in the middle though with Hanners under done.
Yep that Talent has them sitting in 12th spot,with just about a Miracle needed to play FinalsInteresting analysis from Ross Lyon on Footy Classified.
Thinks the Giants should get it done from midfield A grade talent which we just don't have.
Cant argue with that. Ryder will be vital.
The game hasn’t been played yet, just take it as it is.Yep that Talent has them sitting in 12th spot,with just about a Miracle needed to play Finals
3:40 of the Ratts interview on the official website.
"Yeah we did go small against West Coast and we did pay a bit of a price for it, but some of our organisation behind the ball let us down as well. We had smalls on talls, and talls on smalls, and that's not the way to go about it"
Can I ask, whose fault is that? The coaching staff? The runners not getting messages of positional changes to the players quick enough? Or the on-field leadership (given we are talking about our defence - Geary?) not being vocal to switch players around?
Can I ask, whose fault is that? The coaching staff? The runners not getting messages of positional changes to the players quick enough? Or the on-field leadership (given we are talking about our defence - Geary?) not being vocal to switch players around?
Ratts probably needs to spend a bit more time up in the coaches box, rather than at ground level?3:40 of the Ratts interview on the official website.
"Yeah we did go small against West Coast and we did pay a bit of a price for it, but some of our organisation behind the ball let us down as well. We had smalls on talls, and talls on smalls, and that's not the way to go about it"
Can I ask, whose fault is that? The coaching staff? The runners not getting messages of positional changes to the players quick enough? Or the on-field leadership (given we are talking about our defence - Geary?) not being vocal to switch players around?
consider geary is dealing with3:40 of the Ratts interview on the official website.
"Yeah we did go small against West Coast and we did pay a bit of a price for it, but some of our organisation behind the ball let us down as well. We had smalls on talls, and talls on smalls, and that's not the way to go about it"
Can I ask, whose fault is that? The coaching staff? The runners not getting messages of positional changes to the players quick enough? Or the on-field leadership (given we are talking about our defence - Geary?) not being vocal to switch players around?
Yeah , those getting cocky should be very wary , this is our saints we are talking about who have a habit of turning a certain victory into defeat , i cant believe the poll hereThe game hasn’t been played yet, just take it as it is.
He identified other areas of our advantage in defensive transition, Ryders prominence and the use of Bradley Hill. It’s no secret they have the better midfield collective than us
What's not believable about the poll?Yeah , those getting cocky should be very wary , this is our saints we are talking about who have a habit of turning a certain victory into defeat , i cant believe the poll here
What do you mean we didn't adjust to Alice Springs ?What's not believable about the poll?
Saints supports think we will beat a team we current sit above on the ladder and have 11% on. A team that has convincingly lost to Adelaide and Sydney in the last month while we have had close losses against two of the top 5 teams and shot ourselves in the foot against Melbourne when we didnt adjust well to Alice Springs.
Because we have no composure during tight games and no leadership but in saying that neither do they so that's why it will just come down to the class of the cattleWhat's not believable about the poll?
Saints supports think we will beat a team we current sit above on the ladder and have 11% on. A team that has convincingly lost to Adelaide and Sydney in the last month while we have had close losses against two of the top 5 teams and shot ourselves in the foot against Melbourne when we didnt adjust well to Alice Springs.
It must have been the size of the ground , we need some type of excuseWhat do you mean we didn't adjust to Alice Springs ?
Teams out tonight.
Haven't been this nervous for a game since 2011 elim v Swans
Re-watching that game, we really struggled adjusting the game plan the bigger ground. We played dumb football that night and got lost in that extra space.What do you mean we didn't adjust to Alice Springs ?
You cant win games without a functioning forward line- pretty simple. King is a first year player who has gone off the boil, Membrey out of form, Billings playing bruise-free footy, Hind no form, Kent mostly no form, Lonie tries hard, Butler off the boil. There's our problem.I watched the Eagles game today with clearer vision not destroyed by disappointment and frustration. I skipped some of the bits where we were in the ascendancy to try and get a handle on what went wrong.
In the 3rd quarter it was in our F50 98% of the time, for a result of 4 behinds to their 3. We were in front for over half the game. We had plenty of chances to win, so why didn't we?
Firstly, Liam Ryan and Tim Kelly turned many half chances into goals. It seemed like our tagging efforts were loose, but I'd say rather than that being a measure of the ineptitude of Steele or Ross, it's more that Ratts backed them to play their game without worrying too much on the opposition. He backed us to win, can't blame him for that as we nearly did and looked good against them for much of the game. However, this was one instance where a couple of gun players beat a more level team effort.
Also, as Ratts said we were often mismatched as the ball came into our defensive area. Carlisle would absolutely have helped, no point in going further there.
But I think the biggest reason we list is that the forwards just didn't take their chances. King is so out of form it's surprising he's not been omitted. It's his first year, it's totally normal that he would fade at some stage, at the start of the year none of us could have guessed that he'd be used as much as he has. He's slower on the lead, and his radar is off. He looks exhausted. Membrey has been terrible the last month especially, and the Eagle defenders weren't letting our small forwards were anywhere near the footy.
Can these problems be fixed or avoided?
I watched the Eagles game today with clearer vision not destroyed by disappointment and frustration. I skipped some of the bits where we were in the ascendancy to try and get a handle on what went wrong.
In the 3rd quarter it was in our F50 98% of the time, for a result of 4 behinds to their 3. We were in front for over half the game. We had plenty of chances to win, so why didn't we?
Firstly, Liam Ryan and Tim Kelly turned many half chances into goals. It seemed like our tagging efforts were loose, but I'd say rather than that being a measure of the ineptitude of Steele or Ross, it's more that Ratts backed them to play their game without worrying too much on the opposition. He backed us to win, can't blame him for that as we nearly did and looked good against them for much of the game. However, this was one instance where a couple of gun players beat a more level team effort.
Also, as Ratts said we were often mismatched as the ball came into our defensive area. Carlisle would absolutely have helped, no point in going further there.
But I think the biggest reason we list is that the forwards just didn't take their chances. King is so out of form it's surprising he's not been omitted. It's his first year, it's totally normal that he would fade at some stage, at the start of the year none of us could have guessed that he'd be used as much as he has. He's slower on the lead, and his radar is off. He looks exhausted. Membrey has been terrible the last month especially, and the Eagle defenders weren't letting our small forwards were anywhere near the footy.
Can these problems be fixed or avoided?
Or simply a young team (which had its backline rearranged) not having played together for years.
Plus they haven't been able to train/practice much due to lots of games in a short space of time this year.
As opposed to west coasts backline for instance who have all played together for years and know what eachother are gonna do.
You could have abraham lincoln, napoleon and winston churchill down there as 'leaders' and it wouldn't count for squat if they've only played a handful of games together.
If you want someone to 'blame' for our backline not being as cohesive as west coasts- blame the list managers that have taken 8 years of no finals to finally assemble a decent starting 22.
From here it's gonna take a couple more years before they really gel together- no different to every other genuinely good team
This makes me excited for the next few years. We are clearly behind the top group of teams this year but we are also on a great trajectory towards 2022 when our kids start hitting their peak. And making finals this year with our current age profile would be great expereince for them moving forward.We are young in some key areas, forward is one of them
Look at the age of our two highest goal scoring forwards compared to others in the eight:
Port: Dixon 29. Gray 32.
Brisbane: Cameron 26, Hipwood 23.
Geelong: Hawkins 32. Rohan 29.
Richmond: Lynch 27. Riewoldt 31
Weagles: Kennedy 33. Darling 28
Pies: Mihocek 27, Stephenson 21(thats right, he is their second highest scorer and he's not in the side)
Saints: Butler 24, King 20
Dogs: Wallis 28, Naughton 20.
Very young...
You cant win games without a functioning forward line- pretty simple. King is a first year player who has gone off the boil, Membrey out of form, Billings playing bruise-free footy, Hind no form, Kent mostly no form, Lonie tries hard, Butler off the boil. There's our problem.