Game Day Round 18, 2025: West Coast vs Port Adelaide

[Dark Sharks]

I'm gunna be that guy. Tim Kelly "dropping" himself to wafl isn't some selfless self sacrifice. His pride couldn't handle being made sub so he spat the dummy and said I'd rather play in the wafl if you aren't going to give me a full game. Make of that what you will.

Potentially. I suggested similar. Either way he's out of the team so the end result is the same.

 

[timeforanother22]

I'm gunna be that guy. Tim Kelly "dropping" himself to wafl isn't some selfless self sacrifice. His pride couldn't handle being made sub so he spat the dummy and said I'd rather play in the wafl if you aren't going to give me a full game. Make of that what you will.

Thought that immediately. More like, I’m not getting on a plane to be sub. I’ll stay home, play WAFL and collect my cheque.

 

[Dark Sharks]

To be fair guyz...

He actually loses money by playing WAFL as he doesn't get his AFL match payment like he would if he was the sub.

WAFL means he stays here with his family over the weekend rather than go away for whats likely 25 mins of actual game time.

I'm not entirely sure what match payments are up to these days (3k rings a bell) but likely he'll be burning a few thousand by staying.

 

[bzparkes]

To be fair guyz...

He actually loses money by playing WAFL as he doesn't get his AFL match payment like he would if he was the sub.

WAFL means he stays here with his family over the weekend rather than go away for whats likely 25 mins of actual game time.

I'm not entirely sure what match payments are up to these days (3k rings a bell) but likely he'll be burning a few thousand by staying.

Match payments are at least $5k.

 

[Tugga27]

Match payments are at least $5k.

Depending on their contracts, I'm pretty sure not all players get match payments.

I'd be surprised if Kelly was one of those.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I'm trying to tempt the fate by betting with the universe to change my username to Gimp_. It's a sacrifice up there in bravery with the ANZACs and Essendon players.

I think I speak for all of us here when I say...

BRING OUT THE GIMP!!

 

[bzparkes]

Depending on their contracts, I'm pretty sure not all players get match payments.

I'd be surprised if Kelly was one of those.

Rookies get $5k match payments. On The West pod this week, they discussed how much money Harley's missed out on in his first 2 years due to fines/suspension, which turns out to be $68k already, although $40k of it was missing out on the RS.

They said that as a player on a rookie contract, his match payments are $5k.

 

[Tugga27]

Rookies get $5k match payments. On The West pod this week, they discussed how much money Harley's missed out on in his first 2 years due to fines/suspension, which turns out to be $68k already, although $40k of it was missing out on the RS.

They said that as a player on a rookie contract, his match payments are $5k.

Weren't we talking about Kelly?

 

[bzparkes]

Weren't we talking about Kelly?

Well, if a player on a rookie contract is getting $5k match payments, safe to assume senior players would be getting more than that, no?

No player/manager is going to accept a contract where their senior player gets less payments than a rookie.

 

[bzparkes]

Here you go, third year players onwards get match payments of $5k.

How First Year Draftees Can Maximise their Earnings with the New AFL Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) — Melbourne Sports Law Association

The historic collective bargaining agreement (CBA) signed by the AFL and AFLW last year is bound to shape the trajectory of the sport moving forward. In this article, James Accadia breaks down all the newly-added incentives for first year draftees, and how these changes can impact their future cont

www.melbournesla.com

 

[Tugga27]

Well, if a player on a rookie contract is getting $5k match payments, safe to assume senior players would be getting more than that, no?

No player/manager is going to accept a contract where their senior player gets less payments than a rookie.

Like I said, pretty sure not all contracts include match payments.

They're paid a guaranteed amount regardless of games played.

It's not a case of rookies getting more per game.

 

[bzparkes]

Like I said, pretty sure not all contracts include match payments.

They're paid a guaranteed amount regardless of games played.

It's not a case of rookies getting more per game.

See the post above this one.

 

[Tugga27]

See the post above this one.

See the post above this one.

 

[bzparkes]

See the post above this one.

Yeah? What's your point?

DS said match payments were $3-ishk and I said Kelly would've been on at least $5k, which the article I posted supports.

 

[Bender_]

West Coast club legends like Kelly would be on phat stax for match payments.

 

[bzparkes]

West Coast club legends like Kelly would be on phat stax for match payments.

Jeppy would be raining brown paper bags down on our 30+yo players.

 

[Dark Sharks]

See the Bock above this one

 

[PepperTom32]

Need to come out HARD from the opening bounce.
HARD at the man and HARD at the ball.
Hit the scoreboard HARD early and keep them under HARD pressure.
If we give them HARDly any time when they have it they will turn it over and we will be away.

If we don't, then it will be HARD to watch.

Speaking of, and sticking to the theme of this thread, Damian HARDwick ground my gears as a player for Essendon and PA and his self-satisfied grin as a coach is nauseating.

 

[southcoast]

Online reports are Ryan sore and didn’t train this morning.

 

[Grahame]

As mentioned previously, the hate for TK might be tempered a little if we found out his contract extension was for SFA.

We’re not in the four walls to know why a seemingly unnecessary extension was given, and why it was two not one year.

But there is a scenario where they’ve said to him we’ll extend your contract for two years on SFA $$$, on the basis you play most of your time in the WAFL - because we need more experience in that team.

TK gets to be in Perth every weekend with his family and, even on SFA, is still on a far better wage than a labourer.

But I know that possibility won’t sit well with the haters.

 

[SAweagle]

As mentioned previously, the hate for TK might be tempered a little if we found out his contract extension was for SFA.

We’re not in the four walls to know why a seemingly unnecessary extension was given, and why it was two not one year.

But there is a scenario where they’ve said to him we’ll extend your contract for two years on SFA $$$, on the basis you play most of your time in the WAFL - because we need more experience in that team.

TK gets to be in Perth every weekend with his family and, even on SFA, is still on a far better wage than a labourer.

But I know that possibility won’t sit well with the haters.

That is the best possible scenario barring paying him out and picking up a mature mid to come in and fight for a spot

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I find it hard to believe that Kelly would have re-signed for a low contract offer.

 

[Tugga27]

As mentioned previously, the hate for TK might be tempered a little if we found out his contract extension was for SFA.

We’re not in the four walls to know why a seemingly unnecessary extension was given, and why it was two not one year.

But there is a scenario where they’ve said to him we’ll extend your contract for two years on SFA $$$, on the basis you play most of your time in the WAFL - because we need more experience in that team.

TK gets to be in Perth every weekend with his family and, even on SFA, is still on a far better wage than a labourer.

But I know that possibility won’t sit well with the haters.

I've no hate for TK, only the length of the extension.

You make good points, but why couldn't you offer the same for 1 year to see how it plays out?

 

[WCErevival]

I find it hard to believe that Kelly would have re-signed for a low contract offer.

Would he have gotten a high offer anywhere else?

 

[bzparkes]

TK gets to be in Perth every weekend with his family and, even on SFA, is still on a far better wage than a labourer.

Pretty sure he's an electrician and would get paid way more doing that than minimum chips playing WAFL.

I imagine he's on around $500kish per year.