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Round 19 Changes vs Carlton

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Even if his current form was his ceiling Pav is still easily pulling his weight relative to the options we have to replace him.

35 goals for the year is more than any of those replacements you named could manage, and none of them could drag in the contested marks he's still good for a few times a game.

He's not the star carrying the team any more, but he's still easily best 22.

Far too much sense in this post young Esti, you need to drink more of the Regy kool aid to get back to "reality" as dear old Reg sees it...

Next you will be saying that Fyfe isn't on a downward slide due to poor disposal and Sandi isn't over it. And also Danyel isn't actually any good...

Geez Reg gets old, boring, repetitive and sad in the days before games.
 
...in your opinion. Gives you carte Blanche doesn't it? All freedom and no responsibility.
Let's be honest. It's an online forum. All freedom, no responsibility is how this thing works. Opinions are like a*seholes and all that. It's not like we affect anything that actually matters.
 
"I will bag anybody who isn't pulling their weight."

Because you are saying anything you want, without any recourse to evidence. And because you tend to be black and white; they are either great or they are shit. And that's not the way it works in reality. There's a good Ross Lyon quote there, but I don't want to be accused of toeing the company line.
So bag aspects of the player's game play, that's fine. But not the player. And stop making up conspiracy theories about the club's inability to focus on players, just because they don't agree with your bagging. Or not. Up to you.
And how do you take full responsibility for what you post? How do any of us? Except for Seppo and Gil, whose real personas are pretty much the same in real life, we all hide behind our profiles.

Agreed. Also JimDocker - who not only posts in his real name, but with his actual photo, just like Gil and Seppo. No hiding from these boyos, unlike "special posters" Clay, Jungle, Bushie, Reg and company...
 
...in your opinion. Gives you carte Blanche doesn't it? All freedom and no responsibility.
Let's be honest. It's an online forum. All freedom, no responsibility is how this thing works. Opinions are like a*seholes and all that. It's not like we affect anything that actually matters.
 

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Agreed. Also [B]JimDocker[/B] - who not only posts in his real name, but with his actual photo, just like Gil and Seppo. No hiding from these boyos, unlike "special posters" Clay, Jungle, Bushie, Reg and company...
His last name is Docker? Some people just don't know how good they got it ;)
 
Next you will be saying that Fyfe isn't on a downward slide due to poor disposal and Sandi isn't over it. And also Danyel isn't actually any good...
I've read this twice and still can't figure it out. Are you saying that fyfe is on a downward slide, sandi is over it and but that danyle is actually good. Or are you saying the opposite?
 
Far too much sense in this post young Esti, you need to drink more of the Regy kool aid to get back to "reality" as dear old Reg sees it...

Next you will be saying that Fyfe isn't on a downward slide due to poor disposal and Sandi isn't over it. And also Danyel isn't actually any good...

Geez Reg gets old, boring, repetitive and sad in the days before games.
Only those days? I must be on the improve.

We'll just forget that Esti's main argument is that Pav has scored more goals than the alternatives when they haven't even been playing. You just can't argue with logic like that.
 
We'll just forget that Esti's main argument is that Pav has scored more goals than the alternatives when they haven't even been playing. You just can't argue with logic like that.

It's a pretty safe assumption considering none of them have ever managed to average two goals a game in any year of their careers.

That and, you know, actually watching them play and realising they aren't as good as Pav.
 
It's a pretty safe assumption considering none of them have ever managed to average two goals a game in any year of their careers.

That and, you know, actually watching them play and realising they aren't as good as Pav.
It's a pretty safe assumption to make as they're not even getting a chance. They may never be as good as Pav was, but as good as he is now? We may never find out.
 
T You can tell he hasn't done the slightest bit of research, two players have debuted this year (simpson/apeness) not one,
Hate to be that guy, but Simpson debuted last year, in that game against the Saints. I also wouldn't call him playing a qtr much of a game this year. I would've definitely liked to have seen Grey and Pearce get a go this year, their form has definitely been solid when they've been fit, but i don't see how that can be seen as a criticism towards Ross.
 
It's a pretty safe assumption to make as they're not even getting a chance. They may never be as good as Pav was, but as good as he is now? We may never find out.

You're starting to sound like a Melbourne supporter where the infinite promise of youth is preferable to a senior player who is actually performing.

Apeness had a chance and he hasn't managed to kick a goal as the second fiddle yet, let alone as the key target with the opposition's best KPD on him.

Gumby can't stay fit and when he does he can barely kick a goal in the WAFL.

We know full well what Kep can bring and it isn't even in the same stratosphere as Pav, let alone when he's still working his way back from a knee reco.
 
Hate to be that guy, but Simpson debuted last year, in that game against the Saints. I also wouldn't call him playing a qtr much of a game this year. I would've definitely liked to have seen Grey and Pearce get a go this year, their form has definitely been solid when they've been fit, but i don't see how that can be seen as a criticism towards Ross.
Oh...............damn :(
 

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Hate to be that guy, but Simpson debuted last year, in that game against the Saints. I also wouldn't call him playing a qtr much of a game this year. I would've definitely liked to have seen Grey and Pearce get a go this year, their form has definitely been solid when they've been fit, but i don't see how that can be seen as a criticism towards Ross.

Hang on. Simpson played this year
 
His last name is Docker? Some people just don't know how good they got it ;)

I use my real photo, and anyone that knows me in real life will know exactly who I am on these threads.

I post exactly as I speak to people face to face.

I missed how this whole thing started as I am very busy at work at the moment and been giving BF a miss. Hope I haven't missed much !
 
Man, people call me pessimistic.
I don't see that there was anything unduly pessimistic in what he said. Its true, we are just taking the same team into this years finals and hoping its good enough this year and its not unreasonable to state that we would have hoped for Sylvia or Gumbledon to have come into the team and added firepower.
The last paragraph was a bit dark I suppose re Thursday footy.

Oh and the idea that we are somehow hiding a footballer in the shed who is better than Pav but not playing him because Pav gets special treatment is ridiculous.
BUT . . he's the greatest player we've ever had so of course he gets special treatment.

AND people like Salim and Gaskin can tell you that I post just like I am in real life but I don't feel any obligation to post a photo of myself or publish my mobile phone number and ABN in my signature.
Anyone that works in IT like I do can tell you some real horror stories about how you can be tracked online by interested parties these days. I've got nothing to hide but why make it easier for the bastards.
 
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I don't see that there was anything unduly pessimistic in what he said. Its true, we are just taking the same team into this years finals and hoping its good enough this year and its not unreasonable to state that we would have hoped for Sylvia or Gumbledon to have come into the team and added firepower.
The last paragraph was a bit dark I suppose re Thursday footy.

Oh and the idea that we are somehow hiding a footballer in the shed who is better than Pav but not playing him because Pav gets special treatment is ridiculous.
BUT . . he's the greatest player we've ever had so of course he gets special treatment.

AND people like Salim and Gaskin can tell you that I post just like I am in real life but I don't feel any obligation to post a photo of myself or publish my mobile phone number and ABN in my signature.
Anyone that works in IT like I do can tell you some real horror stories about how you can be tracked online by interested parties these days. I've got nothing to hide but why make it easier for the bastards.


This,ditto for me as well
 
Let's be honest. It's an online forum. All freedom, no responsibility is how this thing works. Opinions are like a*seholes and all that. It's not like we affect anything that actually matters.

There's an entire web-based Fremantle team; and I'm sure they both read everything we write and report it back to RTB.

HE NEEDS US.
 

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I don't see that there was anything unduly pessimistic in what he said. Its true, we are just taking the same team into this years finals and hoping its good enough this year and its not unreasonable to state that we would have hoped for Sylvia or Gumbledon to have come into the team and added firepower.
The last paragraph was a bit dark I suppose re Thursday footy.

Oh and the idea that we are somehow hiding a footballer in the shed who is better than Pav but not playing him because Pav gets special treatment is ridiculous.
BUT . . he's the greatest player we've ever had so of course he gets special treatment.

AND people like Salim and Gaskin can tell you that I post just like I am in real life but I don't feel any obligation to post a photo of myself or publish my mobile phone number and ABN in my signature.
Anyone that works in IT like I do can tell you some real horror stories about how you can be tracked online by interested parties these days. I've got nothing to hide but why make it easier for the bastards.

Really? I thought the old 'delete browser history' would do the trick.
 

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