Autopsy Round 19 vs St Kilda

[GremioPower]

I'm not talking about the atmosphere but the basic watching of what is happening on the field.

The first part of my reply was on watching the game. The second part was on feeling the game; which I added for no reason whatsoever...

 

[GremioPower]

I'm not talking about the atmosphere but the basic watching of what is happening on the field.

That's my point. I grew up watching soccer on the upper deck of Grêmio's old stadium: Olímpico Monumental, built in 1954. The stadium, by the way, is oval:

Grêmio plays in a brand new rectangular stadium, the Arena, since 2013.

Watching from the upper deck, I got used to follow the game's "bigger picture". TV focuses on the ball, but that is a small portion of what is going on. If in soccer, the movement and countermovement of the teams are great to watch, I can only imagine that in Australian football the scale is greater.

 

[OneGreatClub]

That's my point. I grew up watching soccer on the upper deck of Grêmio's old stadium: Olímpico Monumental, built in 1954. The stadium, by the way, is oval:

Grêmio plays in a brand new rectangular stadium, the Arena, since 2013.

Watching from the upper deck, I got used to follow the game's "bigger picture". TV focuses on the ball, but that is a small portion of what is going on. If in soccer, the movement and countermovement of the teams are great to watch, I can only imagine that in Australian football the scale is greater.

I know what you mean. We were on the upper Eastern wing at AO initially. Great for seeing the patterns / structures etc. Was definitely the best view, but my partner hated the height. We are now on the lowest level. Not so great but closer to the action and partner happy.

 

[GremioPower]

I know what you mean. We were on the upper Eastern wing at AO initially. Great for seeing the patterns / structures etc. Was definitely the best view, but my partner hated the height. We are now on the lowest level. Not so great but closer to the action and partner happy.

Partnerships are all about compromises...

 

[OneGreatClub]

Partnerships are all about compromises...

Tell me about it.

 

[Smithy7]

Collingwood star Adam Treloar is frustrated by umpires’ inconsistent interpretations of the rules in 2017.
Officials have cracked down on the deliberate out of bounds rule and players being penalised for rushing behinds has also caused a stink at times this season. Umpiring came under the microscope again when the Fox Footy commentators were bewildered the whistleblowers let several indiscretions go late in the final quarter of Port Adelaide’s thrilling win over St Kilda on Saturday.
Treloar says players are confused by the amount of rules and how they’re being policed.
“A lot of the rules are inconsistent,” Treloar told SEN’s The Run Home.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/af...r/news-story/b75cb2cafb81daf218a777f6447949aa

Wonder if he will cop a fine for speaking out against inconsistent umpiring ...

 

[Lighthouse End]

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And that means what exactly?
If you want to be a gullible fool and perpetuate your blind faith, carry on with my blessing. No skin off my nose. Your loss.
Keep letting the AFL bleed you dry of your hard earned cash and thieving you of your spare time following their soap opera rubbish like another series of Big Brother. But when the truth comes out, don't say you weren't told.
And as someone who was regularly opposed to both Travis Boak's and Patrick Dangerfield's dads on field back in the 70s and 80s in the Bellarine League - it gives me no pleasure to see them both involved in it.

 

[chiwigi]

That's my point. I grew up watching soccer on the upper deck of Grêmio's old stadium: Olímpico Monumental, built in 1954. The stadium, by the way, is oval:

Grêmio plays in a brand new rectangular stadium, the Arena, since 2013.

Watching from the upper deck, I got used to follow the game's "bigger picture". TV focuses on the ball, but that is a small portion of what is going on. If in soccer, the movement and countermovement of the teams are great to watch, I can only imagine that in Australian football the scale is greater.

By a massive order of magnitude.

I can comfortably watch soccer on TV and know what is going on. In footy it's often completely lost.

 

[chiwigi]

Acres is coming up to block the space in front of the stoppage that had opened up in case Ryder flicked it goal side and Gray wheeled in front and to the left. This was done by design by Gray - he made as if he was going to cut left to draw Acres out of position and then backpedals and goes right and behind instead.

It showcases a) the ability of Ryder to make that tap and b) the football intelligence of Gray as a clearance specialist. It wasn't so much a mistake to come up as it was a mistake for the +3 St Kilda player in the footage to not to fill in the space vacated by the rucks as they came in to contest the tap.

Why they'd have a 2 on 1 so far away from the contest is baffling.

 

[Portology]

The game live in the flesh is a lot bether than all the rectangle football codes who are better to watch on TV. Because of the size of the field and the 360 degree nature of the game, the TV can't capture a lot of stuff especially all the movement 50 to 100m from the ball by players.

So true.

Have tried explaining Aussie rules to a number of folks who grew up on 'small' rectangle, offside centered League and Soccer, you miss so much on TV watching our game.

League is a dangerous sport to watch on TV while running on a treadmill. Moving sideways as your brain follows that hole in the defensive line is a bad idea.

 

[Smithy7]

 

[*PAF]

Except Ken want's Dixon permanently as a forward and Westhoff can't float if he has to be at ruck contests as a ruckman, so Trengove is there as a cornerstone of the squad.

You don't end up with stats like this if you're open to using others in the ruck regularly

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It would be good to know how many ruck contests they have competed in. It may even end up showing that Trengove > Ryder on % of ruck contests.

Haa stats, gotta love em.

 

[Smithy7]

Did anyone notice Port Members congratulating the umpires on their ***** performance

 

[Garibaldi Red]

I just read a crows fan tweeted that we only won because of a dodgy free kick!!

 

[Brian McGee]

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I just read a crows fan tweeted that we only won because of a dodgy free kick!!

Technically true. We only won because of a dodgy free kick that we didn't get for deliberate out of bounds, which enabled the Ryder to gray magic.

 

[Steve Dore]

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Did anyone notice Port Members congratulating the umpires on their ***** performance

Can't be Ports members as we had all left with two minutes to go.

 

[mic59]

I just read a crows fan tweeted that we only won because of a dodgy free kick!!

They can't talk, they only drew because Collingwood played like witches hats for most of the third and last quarters.

 

[Marmozet]

Bit late, but good on St Kilda for their honesty and not trying to claim that it was touched...unlike Kade Simpson.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I enjoyed this article from The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...th-both-consequence-and-poignancy?CMP=soc_568
In a series of fortnightly columns 10 years ago for The Age, former Fitzroy and St Kilda footballer Tim Pekin had a poet’s eye and was a contrast to the ex-player patois heard everywhere else. Pekin once ascribed our love of the game to “the moment”. This was what brought us back to the game again and again, the promise of “the moment”.

In a season as absorbing and as close as this one, there has been no lacking for “the moment”. But for consequence and poignancy, only round 14’s one-handed mark and after-the-siren goal by Sydney’s Gary Rohan to win an extraordinary game against Essendon can match “the moment” from the dying seconds of Saturday’s twilight game between Port Adelaide and St Kilda.
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But as the poet Jim Carroll wrote of basketball, this was “a game where you can correct all your mistakes instantly, and in mid-air”. Paddy Ryder, Port Adelaide’s ruckman, is averaging more hit-outs (36) than at any time in his career, but none as important as the tap that initiated the final piece on Saturday night. As season-saving plays go, the Ryder-Robbie Gray one-two looks even more impressive in retrospect. It was a play that Power coach Ken Hinkley described as the sort of stuff they practise on the training field, but no training drill can entirely capture the alchemy of consequence and pressure that generates a sum significantly greater than one that can be clinically rehearsed during the week or dissected on video. Be that as it may, you suspect Gray’s goal to be on high rotation in the office of St Kilda coach Alan Richardson this week, where he will pore over film of that stoppage as though it was shot by Abraham Zapruder.

This isn’t to sell Port Adelaide’s effort short, and it wasn’t as though St Kilda’s players just pulled up lawn chairs while Gray went about doing his thing. As much as there may have been space, it was also a teachable moment in the sporting cliché of “willing your team over the line”........

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...th-both-consequence-and-poignancy?CMP=soc_568

 

[Smithy7]

Robbie Gray’s match winning goal against St Kilda has made headlines in America
YOU know you’ve really blown a game when you make it onto ESPN’s Sports Center.
Welcome to the club St Kilda.
The Saints featured on Scott Van Pelt’s “Bad Beats” segment following their horror last 70 seconds against Port Adelaide.
But no matter how much research the Americans do, they just can’t get their heads around Aussie Rules.
More ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ro...a/news-story/b8c76f94c8e263dd8087926b46820a5f

 

[mic59]

Why did Josh Bruce, who is 9 cm taller than Tim Membrey, place himself on the goal line at that last throw in? He was next to the ball as it went out from Jake Carlisle's kick so he had time to trot down to the goal square.

 

[GremioPower]

Robbie Gray’s match winning goal against St Kilda has made headlines in America
YOU know you’ve really blown a game when you make it onto ESPN’s Sports Center.
Welcome to the club St Kilda.
The Saints featured on Scott Van Pelt’s “Bad Beats” segment following their horror last 70 seconds against Port Adelaide.
But no matter how much research the Americans do, they just can’t get their heads around Aussie Rules.
More ...
http://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/ro...a/news-story/b8c76f94c8e263dd8087926b46820a5f

No helmets...

 

[mic59]

I wonder if any of the people who left with 2 minutes to go, not that I could really blame them, were called by a friend who stayrd for the whole game to tell them that we had won? And what was their reaction?

 

[Ateen7tee]

I wonder if any of the people who left with 2 minutes to go, not that I could really blame them, were called by a friend who stayrd for the whole game to tell them that we had won? And what was their reaction?

Surely people have learnt that leaving early is not a good idea at our games. My favourite part of the Collingwood game happened in the last minute!