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Andre 2000 said:
Really? He went sideways. He didn't get past Dyson.

You see, what you want to see.
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Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!

It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.

It's the little things that kill ya.
 
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/74056/default.aspx

ESSENDON appears likely to make several changes to its side to take on Fremantle at Docklands on Sunday after a collection of strong performance at VFL level over the weekend.

David Zaharakis and Darcy Daniher were particularly strong for Bendigo, with the former picking up 30 possessions and kicking seven goals.

Coach Matthew Knights said young guns Leroy Jetta, David Myers, Jay Nash and Michael Quinn will also come into consideration when match committee sits later in the week.

“I’m really buoyant about where this list is going and we’ll keep pushing to develop it,” Knights said.

Mark McVeigh (ankle) and Kyle Reimers (tendonitis) are likely to miss this week and resume playing in round three.
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Could be quite a few changes this weekend.
 
kelvin_sheedy said:
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!

It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.

It's the little things that kill ya.
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Going off topic here but **** you AFL. It is bullshit that you have Telstra big pond internet to watch replays of the game.
Well you can kiss my arse AFL and Telstra. Game recorded on Foxtell IQ. Game now burnt onto disc.
 
i would consider dropping houli for at least one instance of taking short steps when confronted with front-on collisions. one in the back pocket/hbf lead to a port uncontested mark 20 meters out. i don't like to pot players like that, but i was fuming that with the game on the line early, he didn't put himself on the line. and i like bachar as a player.
 

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Surely Jetta needs to come in to the side at the expense of Monfries whom didnt look too impressive. Put a rocket up Monfries a$$ and send him to the two's to earn a senior spot - he is much better than that, just doesnt seem to be at the drop of the ball when required. Jetta has earned his spot and will provide more pressure and creativity alongside Davey.

I know a few on here want Houli dropped but I believe his development is required in the seniors and will get better. He will get unstuck as he endeavours to "take the game on" as Knighter wants him too. He needs to build his confidence.

Same with Slatts, he played on a quality in form opponent and did a reasonable job. I thought his disposals were very good albiet not knowing his efficiency...anyone?

Dyson probably played to his potential, which is not great, did dome OK things going forward but lacked aggression and composure in the back line when needed! I say his time is nearing and opportunities to Myers and Nash are imminant.

So.....

Out: Dyson, Neagle, Monfries
In: Nash, Jetta, Zaharakis
 
Out: Slattery (has been terrible all year including NAB IMO)
Dyson (played well in the NAB but was typical when the real stuff started)

In: Jetta (Knights is going to kill Davey if he has to put all the forward pressure on himself. He can't run down everyone, especially coming off a knee reco)
Myers (really should be in the team if fit)

Personally i dont think that we need an extra ruckman against Freo. Bellchambers will win the majority of hitouts, and if anybody watched their game last week then they will know that under pressure (and hell, even without it) they are turning the ball over like crazy. I think we would benifit more from more mobile players to get to those spaces and mark the wayard balls. Pears played exceptionally, don't drop him for team balance, we need him in there to develop further, was great IMO. As for Houli and Dempsey, i say give them another go. They didn't show a tonne but should be kept there to try and rebound. I also think that they are crucial to the type of game plan that Knights has us playing.
 
Hmm, I can't be bothered listing all my changes to the Rd 1 team, but I would look at playing a team something this:

B: Henry Slattery, Dustin Fletcher, Darcy Daniher
HB: Tayte Pears, Michael Hurley, David Myers
C: Jason Winderlich, Brent Stanton, Andrew Lovett
HF: Alwyn Davey, Paddy Ryder, Adam McPhee
F: Hayden Skipworth, Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle
Foll: David Hille, Jobe Watson, Sam Lonergan

Int: Tom Bellchambers, Leroy Jetta, Heath Hocking, Courtenay Dempsey

Maybe Lucas could replace Neagle, but they were both terrible so I just thought maybe it's best to get another game into Jay. Also Lucas was a constant offender of drawing his man to what would have been a one on one contest and then doing nothing and sitting at the back against Port. Scotty, forward lines are more crowded than ever, you need to make space not allow your opponent to go third man up while you don't make a contest.

It is a young backline, but I think it could work with a little experience and it gives Paddy the chance to play forward and see if he can make it up there. Also, with the workrates of McPhee and Ryder having moving around and up the ground it may create some more space for Lloyd in the forward line. Just tell Neagle (or Lucas if you prefer) to lead to the pockets and stay out of Lloyd's way. :p

You could also swap Dempsey for Zaharakis if you thought Zaharakis was ready. Dempsey was pretty average (and has been for most of the NAB cup), but I'd give Dempsey another chance and I'm always hesitant to play new draftees in the big time too early. But I didn't see his Bendigo game, I guess if he is ready he is ready.
 
What's up with Dempsey may i ask? I saw him play before he broke his leg and he ran of the half backline quite well with plenty of pace, although his decision making looked dodgey at times at least he took the game on.

Watched him play on the weekend at he just seemed to lope around and didn't show much intensity...what's happened? There was even a big article this year in the paper about him claiming this is his year to shine :confused:
 
do you people even watch our games?
or do you just look at the team sheet and go nah dont like you and you and you and ill put him in and you , and you

cause Thats what it seems like

DROP DYSON - Come on? he his the one guy in our team who should be staying at least his Bust his arse of each week trying

Bring in Myers - are you for real why should he get picked ? his done nothing to be in the team and Dyson shits all over him (atm)

Jetta - is hopeless what cause he kicks the odd good goal ? it only takes less then a min to kick one good goal what does he do for the rest of the 119 mins (120mins a game say) he runs around like a lost chook without his head

Bellchanges is young and id very much doubt he would out tap Sandy so why would you bring him in when we can have Ryder who can almost jump and beat sandy in the ruck - 50/50 chance of ryder winning a hit out to Bellchambers 10/90 chance

NLM - does he even try ? maybe thats why his in the VFL

Nash - does look good in some games but most of his kicks turn over and is only a depth player

Stanton - playing on the half back line racking up 30 odd possys come on mate i can do that and im not even that good , Stanton should be used as a tagger like a Kane Cornes type that way he dont need to be able to handle a tagger - cause he will be one


id say leave the team as it is there is no reason to change the team no one has done anything in the VFL - (only zakka)

Where losing it by to MANY HANDBALLS not cause where shit team , STOP HANDBALLING so many times , i hate it when one of our players hand ball to some knowing there just about to get tackled , why dont u just bang it long and turn it over that way instead of putting your team mate under the pump , NLM , Nash are the main ones that keep doing it and its getting beyond a joke.

*4 talls in a forward is asking to lose (Lloyd , lucas , Mcphee ,Neagle ) id drop neagle he hasnt even done anything to play afl what he takes one good mark and goal goal and his a superstar ? send him to VFL to he starts kicking bags then bring him back.

*Play Ryder in the ruck and rest him as a full forward and when Ryder is tied from the ruck send him to full forward.
(i said that before essendonfc.com.au reported he was going to change possys)
 
kelvin_sheedy said:
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!

It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.

It's the little things that kill ya.
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Ok, he could've guarded the mark better. But you are still too happy to ignore the positive aspects from his game. Why not youtube those?
 

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to be honest we need to keep the same team, yes their are others pressing for selection, I want to see Zaka back up his game in the reserves before we all get overexcited about it, Pears and Hurley are our future down back, so let them play together, Lucas is the one who we should be talking about, he is the one who is holding back our youngsters up forward. He should play at FF with Neagle in a pocket as I think it is to much to ask of him to play a KPP at 20 years of age. Or play Lloyd at FF, Neagle FP, Lucas CHF, we need Lloyd closer to goal, he was lost on the weekend up the ground and was sorely missed, Lucas being underdone should of been another clear message that we had to play Lloyd out of the square. Dyson will not get dropped. If people actually look at Dyson and see his numbers at junior level, he has never really been a big ball winner, his long accurate kicking are the features of his game, he has shown enough I think that he will get better, of the players that have been mentioned, I think Dempsey, if anyone should be looked at to be getting a rest in the magoos this weekend. him and Houli both looked underdone and were not trying, I know they are not overly enthusing looking players, but they did not show much on the weekend. Although, the one thing that could keep them in, is; who comes in for them. No one really is there. oh and by the way, Bellchambers has to come in, raw or not, give the big fella a go, the more game time he gets the better he will become in the long run.
 
Out: Dyson (even though he was okay down back - not the worst), Dempsey, Neagle, Houli
In: Zaharakis, McVeigh, Jetta, Bellchambers

My side:

B: H. Slattery, Fletcher, Hurley
HB: Pears, Ryder, Skipworth
C: Lovett, Watson, Hocking
HF: Davey, Lucas, McPhee
F: Monfries, Lloyd, Jetta
R: Hille, Stanton, McVeigh
Int: Winderlich, Bellchambers, Lonergan, Zaharakis
Emerg: Dyson, Daniher, Houli
 
Kyle Reimers (tendonitis) are likely to miss this week and resume playing in round three.
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Against Carlton no less.:p

(ignoring the fact that he's had no preseason and will likely spend at least two weeks in Bendigo)
 

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Out: Neagle, Monfries
In: Jetta, Zaharakis

B: Slatts, Hurley, Dyson
HB: Dempsey, Fletch, Pears
C: Lovett, Watson, Hocking
HF: McPhee, Lloyd, Ryder
F: Davey, Lucas, Skipworth
R: Hille, Stanton, Winderlich
I/C: Jetta, Zaharakis, Houli, Lonergan

Emerg: Neagle, Bellchambers, Monfries

Was out of Monfries and Houli for the last spot with Houli just getting the nod.

Hurley and Pears must play. Ryder to spend time forward as has been said. I think the forwardline will work much better with Davey, Jetta and Zaka to be the crumbing forwards.
 

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