AFLW Round 2 Discussion - 2021 AFLW season

[Teen Wolf]

All times are local. In addition to the free-to-air television coverage noted below, all matches are broadcast live on Fox Footy and live-and-free on the AFLW website/app.

W. Bulldogs v Carlton
Friday 7.45pm, VU Whitten Oval
Seven (Melb/Adel) & 7mate (Syd/Bris/Perth)

C'wood v Geelong
Saturday 3.10pm, Victoria Park

Melbourne v Richmond
Saturday 5.10pm, Casey Fields

North Melb. v St Kilda
Sunday 1.10pm, Arden Street Oval
Seven (Melb) & 7mate (Syd/Bris/Perth)

Brisbane v Gold Coast
Sunday 2.10pm, Hickey Park
7mate (Melb/Bris/Adel)

GWS Giants v Adelaide
Sunday 5.10pm, Blacktown International Sportspark
7mate (Syd/Adel)

Fremantle v West Coast
Sunday 4.15pm, Fremantle Oval
7mate (Perth)

ALL games currently scheduled for the weekend, after a fixture change on Friday. GWS-Adel & Frem-WC added, while the Cats and Suns have swapped opponents to avoid travelling interstate.

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TEAMS


WESTERN BULLDOGS
B: A.Gogos 36, E.Gamble 14
HB: S.Hartwig 15, K.Lynch 10, E.Brown 9
C: K.McLeod 6, E.Blackburn 2, B.Hunt 21
HF: J.Fitzgerald 23, I.Huntington 4, B.Lochland 1
F: B.Toogood 8, D.Berry 7
Foll: C.Moody 13, E.Georgostathis 17, K.Lamb 27
I/C: N.Morris-Dalton 25, K.Rennie 24, N.Ferres 16, A.Guest 19, G.Newton 5
Emerg: I.Grant 3, B.Gutknecht 18
In: E.Gamble, K.McLeod, K.Rennie, N.Ferres
Out: G.Lagioia (omitted), D.Marshall (omitted), B.Gutknecht (omitted), L.Spark (omitted)

CARLTON
B: B.Vernon 31, N.Plane 32
HB: J.Edwards 25, C.Wilson 20, K.Harrington 9
C: L.Brazzale 12, E.O'Dea 46, K.Loynes 2
HF: A.McKay 5, T.Harris 7, D.Vescio 3
F: N.Stevens 21, J.Hosking 11
Foll: B.Moody 16, M.Prespakis 4, G.Gee 19
I/C: M.Guerin 18, A.Downie 30, M.Hill 10, G.Egan 1, C.Hammans 17
Emerg: S.Gibbs 33, D.Walker 23
In: J.Edwards
Out: V.Laloifi (concussion)



COLLINGWOOD
B: L.Butler 23 J.Allen 6
HB: R.Schleicher 18 S.Livingstone 12 A.Porter 9
C: S.Chiocci 17 J.Lambert 13 A.Sheridan 14
HF: A.Velardo 5 S.Norder 1 S.Rowe 7
F: C.Molloy 2 M.Cann 25
Foll: B.Smith 19 B.Davey - C 3 B.Bonnici 8
I/C: E.Fowler 15 S.Alexander 24 S.Casey 22 E.O'Dea 50 T.Brown 26
Emerg: J.Lin 20 K.Stratton 41
In: S.Rowe
Out: A.Newman (suspension)

GEELONG
B: M.Keryk 45 M.McMahon 24
HB: J.Ivey 5 M.McDonald - C 11 S.Van De Heuvel 27
C: A.McDonald 3 R.Webster 21 D.Taylor 28
HF: D.Higgins 2 P.McWilliams 23 R.Cranston 30
F: O.Barber 15 S.Williams 25
Foll: A.O'Connor 14 J.Crockett-Grills 6 O.Purcell 16
I/C: G.Clarke 17 D.Moloney 4 G.Rankin 10 R.Garing 12 M.Boyd 26
Emerg: L.Gardiner 18 N.Garner 22
In: O.Barber, S.Williams
Out: M.Brown (injured), R.Caris (Omitted)



MELBOURNE
B: G.Colvin 32 L.Birch 9
HB: S.Goldrick 23 D.Pearce - C 6 S.Heath 30
C: E.McNamara 22 L.Mithen 14 C.Sherriff 18
HF: S.Scott 12 K.Hore 10 J.Parry 19
F: E.Zanker 29 K.Petrevski 31
Foll: L.Pearce 15 K.Paxman 4 T.Hanks 5
I/C: C.Emonson 11 B.Tarrant 20 M.Fitzsimon 24 A.Bannan 16 T.Cunningham 1
Emerg: N.McEvoy 17 M.Caris 21
No change

RICHMOND
B: R.Miller 15 H.Cordner 23
HB: P.Monahan 2 S.D'Arcy 12 I.Ross 21
C: C.Bernardi 6 M.Conti 4 K.Dempsey 19
HF: K.Jacques 10 E.McKenzie 22 C.Wakefield 8
F: S.Frederick 14 T.Stahl 24
Foll: G.Seymour 28 S.Hosking 7 K.Brennan - C 3
I/C: A.Makur Chuot 34 H.Burchell 9 S.Dargan 17 S.Molan 1 M.Brancatisano 5
Emerg: S.Sansonetti 18 L.McClelland 16
In: M.Brancatisano
Out: L.Lesosky-Hay (omitted)



NORTH MELBOURNE
B: D.Hardiman 31 S.Wright 17
HB: N.Bresnehan 12 T.Randall 16 A.Gilroy 8
C: K.Ashmore 10 E.Kearney - C 9 J.Bruton 35
HF: D.Bateman 11 K.Gillespie-Jones 5 A.O'Loughlin 6
F: S.Abbatangelo 1 V.Saad 39
Foll: E.King 60 J.Garner 25 A.Riddell 7
I/C: D.Bannister 2 I.Eddey 3 J.Grierson 19 E.Gavalas 22 M.King 23
Emerg: B.Lynch 20 B.Brown 36
No changes

ST KILDA
B: H.Priest 14 T.White 29
HB: J.Van Dyk 36 A.Brown 2 T.Lucas-Rodd 18
C: B.Jakobsson 8 T.Smith 6 C.Phillips 35
HF: D.Guttridge 5 K.McCarthy 9 J.Vogt 10
F: C.Greiser 17 K.Shierlaw 12
Foll: R.Watt - C 7 G.Patrikios 21 N.Exon 15
I/C: R.Saulitis 13 M.McDonald 1 C.Whitfort 4 N.von Bertouch 28 R.Dillon 25
Emerg: T.Meyer 34 I.Shannon 11
In: B.Jakobsson, M.McDonald
Out: T.Meyer (omitted), A.Burke (omitted)



BRISBANE
B: S.Campbell 20 K.Lutkins 13
HB: E.Zielke - C 8 N.Grider 10 B.Koenen 3
C: O.O'Dwyer 9 C.Svarc 25 S.Conway 12
HF: G.Bodey 15 D.Davidson 14 L.Arnell 16
F: J.Wardlaw 30 C.Hodder 21
Foll: T.Hickie 24 A.Anderson 18 E.Bates 1
I/C: I.Dawes 17 J.Ellenger 5 J.Zanchetta 2 L.Postlethwaite 6 T.Smith 31
Emerg: I.Tahau 26 M.Moloney 28
In: J.Zanchetta
Out: M.Moloney (omitted)

GOLD COAST
B: D.D'Arcy 20 J.Pregelj 42
HB: S.Watson 14 L.Ahrens 7 D.Heslop 25
C: E.Keaney 30 H.Dunn - C 24 S.Virgo 22
HF: S.Perkins 28 M.Levi 6 K.Howarth 23
F: B.Perry 16 K.Surman 26
Foll: L.Bella 2 A.Drennan 33 J.Stanton 17
I/C: A.Bradfield 10 G.Bevan 27 C.Hammond 29 L.Kaslar 11 L.Single 13
Emerg: P.Parker 1 J.Baird 18
In: G.Bevan
Out: P.Parker (omitted)



GWS GIANTS
B: P.Randall 21 T.Hetherington 9
HB: L.Steane 20 N.Barr 8 E.Todd 25
C: E.Bennetts 22 A.Eva - C 2 E.Goodsir 1
HF: T.Evans 18 H.Zreika 24 J.Hicks 5
F: C.Staunton 13 R.Privitelli 19
Foll: E.McKinnon 23 A.Parker 3 R.Beeson 6
I/C: L.Stephenson 12 J.Allan 39 J.Dal Pos 7 B.Tully 36 A.Schmidt 11
Emerg: T.Mackrill 32 G.Garnett 17
In: L.Stephenson, J.Allan, B.Tully
Out: A.Lister (head knock), T.Davies (omitted), S.Halvorsen (omitted)

ADELAIDE
B: N.Gore 7 M.Rajcic 32
HB: A.Foley 3 S.Allan 39 C.Randall - C 26
C: S.Thompson 14 A.Hatchard 33 H.Button 6
HF: D.Ponter 15 E.Phillips 13 A.Considine 16
F: A.Woodland 24 E.Jones 2
Foll: R.Metcalfe 11 N.Allen 8 E.Marinoff 10
I/C: L.Whiteley 22 M.Newman 17 T.Charlton 25 C.Biddell 12 J.Mules 23
Emerg: R.Forth 27 C.Gould 1
No changes



FREMANTLE
B: E.Gooch 8 J.Cuthbertson 29
HB: A.Stannett 4 E.O'Driscoll 3 L.Pugh 32
C: E.Antonio 12 H.Miller 19 K.Antonio - C 15
HF: S.Duffy 6 R.Roux 17 G.O'Sullivan 22
F: G.Houghton 27 M.Sergeant 23
Foll: M.Strom 21 K.Bowers 2 J.Stewart 7
I/C: T.Haynes 33 S.Verrier 5 B.Webb 26 M.Hyde 28 S.Cain 20
Emerg: M.Maclachlan 16 K.Grieve 13
No changes

WEST COAST
B: A.Ward 33 C.Perera 27
HB: B.Smith 14 S.McDonald 35 T.Bresland 20
C: M.Bowen 1 A.McCarthy 11 K.Orme 32
HF: N.Kelly 12 S.Davison 28 G.Kelly 15
F: A.Gilmore 22 K.Gibson 2
Foll: P.Laurie 25 E.Swanson - C 13 I.Lewis 6
I/C: I.Cameron 19 A.Atkins 9 K.Pope 29 H.Bullas 24 C.Guard 4
Emerg: S.Goranova 31 J.Low 30
In: C.Perera, K.Orme, I.Cameron, K.Pope
Out: D.Hooker (injured), M.Collier (injured), B.Green (injured), D.Liddle (injured)

 

[Biggie]

Was looking forward to Adelaide v Freo tbh

Oh well

Dogs v Blues should be good

 

[radiojake]

can't help but think that Crows season is fcked if they have actually have to quarantine for the 2 weeks like is currently reported

 

[Teen Wolf]

can't help but think that Crows season is fcked if they have actually have to quarantine for the 2 weeks like is currently reported

At this stage, it wouldn't be hard to make up the lost games while still ensuring they are played against opponents who are similarly prepared.

 

[Biggie]

 

[Mkcaptain]

Although the speed of the sell outs is definitely impressive I'm finding some of the social media commentatary disingenuous considering the reduced crowd capacities. But given the constant ridicule from trolls about the free entry in previous seasons I can definitely understand the joyous response to sell outs.

Also as much as I love the traditional venues does Kate McCarthy have a good point?

 

[Teen Wolf]

WB v Carl
I haven't seen any news about Laloifi's availability for Friday night, though the word after Thursday was that Pound would be right to go for R2. So Carlton might have one backline regular go out and one come in for their match against the Bulldogs. McEvoy's projected return is apparently R3, and without her they aren't a serious flag contender imo (a belief which led to me correctly tipping the "upset" of R1), but I'm still leaning towards the Blues in a tight one this time around.

Coll v Geel
Aliesha Newman has been rubbed out for Collingwood's clash with the Suns on Saturday (for the tackle that has left Laloifi in doubt). However, that exclusion will be made up for (and then some) with the return of Sarah Rowe from a shoulder issue.

If the Cats just let the Pies' equivalent of Ellie Gavalas (I'm not sure who that'd be... Mikala Cann maybe) do whatever she wants—standing at a throw-in by herself 20m out from goal, for instance, and then have the opposition ruckman tap it down her throat—they will again cop a hiding. Until a few days ago, however, that hasn't been their modus operandi.

Attention to defensive detail has typically been Geelong's strength, and I expect they will bounce back in that department. If they do, a repeat of their original '19 encounter still seems unlikely to me, considering Collingwood have shown they can bust open a contested slogfest wide open in a matter of ten minutes.

Melb v Rich
Might (will) get ugly on the scoreboard, though I'm still expecting a rather free-flowing end-to-end game.

NM v StK
Perhaps the opposite.

Bris v GC
Even if Kalinda Howarth plays I doubt she'll be 100% fit coming off a weekend when she appeared to be hampered by a number of stingers and strains etc. Although I tipped Brisbane to lose against the Cats, this feels like a much better match-up for the Lions, but still expect them to make it harder on themselves than necessary.

GWS v Adel
The Giants finally get to come home... to play in front of nobody. Although the match will be closed to the public, it should at least be a prettier spectacle on TV than when these teams previously met at Blacktown (R4 2018, a sopping wet 19-19 deadlock). The head-to-head history between GWS and the Crows is quite peculiar--imo the Giants have played much better than what the scoreboard has suggested on all four occasions, regardless of who won/lost/drew.

Alyce Parker and Bec Beeson were the dominant ball-winners last week at Fremantle Oval, just as they were in last year's win against Adelaide. Elle Bennetts and Rebecca Privitelli also carried on from strong 2020 form but, unlike that Norwood Oval meeting in which Erin Phillips only kinda played, the Giants didn't have a favourable portion of match-winners on their side in a commendable performance vs the Dockers.

Tips
Blues by 6
Pies by 24
Dees by 50
Roos by 12
Lions by 1
Crows by 18
(Freo by 30 if a match vs Eagles happens)

 

[Mkcaptain]

Although the speed of the sell outs is definitely impressive I'm finding some of the social media commentatary disingenuous considering the reduced crowd capacities. But given the constant ridicule from trolls about the free entry in previous seasons I can definitely understand the joyous response to sell outs.

Also as much as I love the traditional venues does Kate McCarthy have a good point?

This is more than I thought it would be. Although I find it strange they refer to a 2-2.5k range. Surely they would have an exact number that they sold tickets to?

 

[Aardvark]

People will never pay to watch women's footy they said......

 

[PMBangers]

Tips
Blues by 13
Pies by 20
Dees by 60
Roos by 30
Lions by 15

 

[samFFC]

Although the speed of the sell outs is definitely impressive I'm finding some of the social media commentatary disingenuous considering the reduced crowd capacities. But given the constant ridicule from trolls about the free entry in previous seasons I can definitely understand the joyous response to sell outs.

Also as much as I love the traditional venues does Kate McCarthy have a good point?

Came to post this.
Gotta do it. Financially dumb not to.

 

[Kangaroo Cat]

I'm definitely in favour of bigger venues, I like all the teams and I'd absolutely go watch the pies or melb or freo etc at a larger ground

 

[Dory_77]

This is more than I thought it would be. Although I find it strange they refer to a 2-2.5k range. Surely they would have an exact number that they sold tickets to?

For grounds without stands the whole way round it seems like they section up the grassy bits/open areas, so might be able to have families in each square, or couples/individuals which could explain the variation (i.e. spaced so they could fit anywhere from 1-4 people from same group and still be socially distanced). With seats all around it'd be easier and more definite.

Would also support bigger venues.

 

[Teen Wolf]

 

[Tas]

This is more than I thought it would be. Although I find it strange they refer to a 2-2.5k range. Surely they would have an exact number that they sold tickets to?

I assume the 2-2.5 thing was a guess at the capacity and wasn't something official the club had specified.

Last year, the first game we had after the redevelopment was complete was against Gold Coast, that game was also a sell out and there were 3,280 at that game (pre covid). I am not exactly sure how social distancing is going to work with the standing room areas, people can't manage to work the dots on the floor at supermarkets.

With a bit of luck, when they redevelop the North Melbourne precinct in the near future they will adjust the size of the reserve so we have more space to put some additional seating at the ground, now that the AFL has approved it for VFL and AFLW games. Since we adjusted the size of the oval to be the same dimensions as Docklands it has made the possibility of increasing the capacity atm unlikely, the ovaL is basically up against Fogarty Street and Macaulay Road.

It would be nice to have a 10-15k capacity for AFLW and VFL games but at present it is a luxury. I am really happy at the rate of growth and improvement of the game, and our own team, it is a bit disappointing to see some the snarky comments some posted on social media, it is better to get 2.5k out of a 3.2k capacity stadium than get whatever there was at Geelong last week in a much larger stadium. i think having a better atmosphere with a crowd closer together than a widely dispersed crowd in a much larger stadium is better for the growth of the game.

 

[Teen Wolf]

 

[radiojake]

ok - so playing GWS in Sydney?

 

[Teen Wolf]

 

[The Victorian]

very sad for me. I bought tickets to the Collingwood v Suns game and was really looking forward to seeing the Suns girls play!

 

[radiojake]

very sad for me. I bought tickets to the Collingwood v Suns game and was really looking forward to seeing the Suns girls play!

my mum is flying in from Brisbane to Melbourne on the 20th, which is when the Crows were originally scheduled to play Collingwood at Vic Park - if the game doesn't happen then, it'll be a shame, but lucky it's not the main reason why she is coming down

 

[samFFC]

Shame about the changes but glad most of the league is able to press on. We will be back to terrorise you all soon

 

[Teen Wolf]

WB v Carl
I haven't seen any news about Laloifi's availability for Friday night, though the word after Thursday was that Pound would be right to go for R2. So Carlton might have one backline regular go out and one come in for their match against the Bulldogs. McEvoy's projected return is apparently R3, and without her they aren't a serious flag contender imo (a belief which led to me correctly tipping the "upset" of R1), but I'm still leaning towards the Blues in a tight one this time around.

Coll v Geel
Aliesha Newman has been rubbed out for Collingwood's clash with the Suns on Saturday (for the tackle that has left Laloifi in doubt). However, that exclusion will be made up for (and then some) with the return of Sarah Rowe from a shoulder issue.

If the Cats just let the Pies' equivalent of Ellie Gavalas (I'm not sure who that'd be... Mikala Cann maybe) do whatever she wants—standing at a throw-in by herself 20m out from goal, for instance, and then have the opposition ruckman tap it down her throat—they will again cop a hiding. Until a few days ago, however, that hasn't been their modus operandi.

Attention to defensive detail has typically been Geelong's strength, and I expect they will bounce back in that department. If they do, a repeat of their original '19 encounter still seems unlikely to me, considering Collingwood have shown they can bust open a contested slogfest wide open in a matter of ten minutes.

Melb v Rich
Might (will) get ugly on the scoreboard, though I'm still expecting a rather free-flowing end-to-end game.

NM v StK
Perhaps the opposite.

Bris v GC
Even if Kalinda Howarth plays I doubt she'll be 100% fit coming off a weekend when she appeared to be hampered by a number of stingers and strains etc. Although I tipped Brisbane to lose against the Cats, this feels like a much better match-up for the Lions, but still expect them to make it harder on themselves than necessary.

GWS v Adel
The Giants finally get to come home... to play in front of nobody. Although the match will be closed to the public, it should at least be a prettier spectacle on TV than when these teams previously met at Blacktown (R4 2018, a sopping wet 19-19 deadlock). The head-to-head history between GWS and the Crows is quite peculiar--imo the Giants have played much better than what the scoreboard has suggested on all four occasions, regardless of who won/lost/drew.

Alyce Parker and Bec Beeson were the dominant ball-winners last week at Fremantle Oval, just as they were in last year's win against Adelaide. Elle Bennetts and Rebecca Privitelli also carried on from strong 2020 form but, unlike that Norwood Oval meeting in which Erin Phillips only kinda played, the Giants didn't have a favourable portion of match-winners on their side in a commendable performance vs the Dockers.

Tips
Blues by 6
Pies by 24
Dees by 50
Roos by 12
Lions by 1
Crows by 18
(Freo by 30 if a match vs Eagles happens)

Updated tips^

Haven't had enough time to talk myself into tipping a new upset, so all these predictions are fairly... predictable.

 

[Teen Wolf]

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WESTERN BULLDOGS
In: E.Gamble, K.McLeod, K.Rennie, N.Ferres
Out: G.Lagioia (omitted), D.Marshall (omitted), B.Gutknecht (omitted), L.Spark (omitted)

CARLTON
In: J.Edwards
Out: V.Laloifi (concussion)

 

[Biggie]

Updated tips^

Haven't had enough time to talk myself into tipping a new upset, so all these predictions are fairly... predictable.

Gee hard to pick an upset here tbh

 

[Biggie]