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Preview Round 21, 2018: Collingwood Magpies vs. Brisbane Lions

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  1. Fatcat08

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    The Rambling (feel free to go down to The Game section for less incoherent rambling)

    This weeks preview has left me in a world of mixed emotions, a myriad of ups and downs.

    Initially I was pained to reflect on season that has left me disappointed and slightly jaded. I mean this wasn't supposed to happen, why would something that delivered so much joy to so many have to cease with such severity, why did Collingwood have to be good again. We had all laughed through the preceding 7 seasons with a mix of appreciation, humour and a certain smugness as the Pies seemed to blunder their way through season after season, slowly spiraling into the abyss. Then 2018 happened, and suddenly through the power of Buckley's now deceased but ever powerful beard the Pies were good again despite seemingly employing the entire GC Suns medical team.

    But despite the arrival of such dark days, there is a light on the horizon, the 2018 AFL ladder. Its close, remarkably close (well for most of the teams) and with only 3 rounds to go, for many teams there remains the very real possibility of finishing in either the top four, or out of the 8 completely. Its this amazing possibility that presents the opportunity for greatness this week, but with greatness comes great responsibility. Lose this week, and we could be letting the Pies into the top 4, win and they could be out of the 8 completely come sunday night. Its not every day you get to make dreams come true.

    And we're not without a chance either. Finally after seasons of meandering through the AFL abyss it feels that every time our boys pull on the guernsey, they're a chance to grab a win. Its not the idle musings of just fans either, our players feel it, the opposition feels it and the wider footy community feels it too, "they know we're coming" (ok too far)

    The Stats

    Stats never tell the full story, but sometimes they are useful. Look across any statistical category when compared to the Pies, and they're not as far off as you would think.

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    As expected we're down on possessions, inside 50's and scoring shots, but not shockingly so. And we're up in turnovers, clearances and marks. What surprised me was how far down we were in bounces, I guess highlighting how we prefer to move the ball with disposal, rather than carry.

    Dig a bit deeper and compare how we go per game vs our opponents and the reason the pies sit where they are, and we do not start to becomes apparent. While we're doing pretty well stats wise, the teams we play are doing much better against us then against the Pies.

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    We're well down in contested possession, uncontested posessions, marks inside 50, bounces, turnovers, intercepts and tackles inside 50. While progress is being made, we still sit below the team we play against most weeks.


    The Game

    The ins will play a big part in this. The pies will be without Moore this week who won this weeks injury raffle at the Holden Centre, however Howe does come in. Still this leaves them playing a second former basketballer as one of their Key Defenders. We'll have to be a whole lot better with our leading patterns than last week to allow McStay or Hipwood to take advantage of this, but the lack of cohesion in their back 6 could allow some mismatches.

    Through the midfield it will depend who's up this week. Cutler coming back in will give us some of the run that was lacking in his absense, and should help move the ball a bit better on the fat side wing. Its actually quite amazing how pivotal he has become in that role given he was out of the team at the start of the year, and he seems to have finally worked out how he needs to, and can play, at afl level. As for the rest, we still rely on two second year players in Berry and Cluggs to really take us to that next level and compete with good afl midfields which is always going to vary game to game. Lets hope they continue their form from last week.

    Overall the realist in me still thinks that the Pies will most likely win this one, albeit not by a lot. However the sometimes irrational dislike I have for them compels me to never tip them and since we can only seemingly win by a lot.....:think:

    Lions by 42 ;)o_O:drunk::thumbsu::footy::fire:
     

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  2. MartinLifts130

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    Will you guys play a tagger? If so, on who? Pendles/Sidebottom/Phillips?
     
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    WHE also isn't that tall - he just plays tall. Gardiner would be a good matchup on him.
     
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    We haven't really played a tagger this year. The sole exception has been as a "learning experience" where we've played like on like, e.g. Berry on Fyfe.
     
  5. snooplions

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    Wouldn't have thought this would be case at the beginning of the year.
     
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    That's more what I meant, amazing football IQ and a great vertical leap makes him seem like a tall target.
     
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    Great preview Fatcat.

    Howe will be a big inclusion for them, I thought I read somewhere that he didn't train however so will be interesting to see how that plays out.
     
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    Generally has been "Berry running with X" as a learning experience, but I wonder if Fages will chuck a swifty this week, and tell Clug to run loose with Pendles as a learning experience.
     
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    Really interested in our forward line matchups. Looking at the game notes from last week, the Pies played the following guys in defensive roles:

    Moore (injured)
    Madgen (on Mccartin, then moved to Buddy) - 192cm
    Langdon - 190cm on Heeney
    Mihocek (started forward, then moved onto McCartin) - 192cm

    The meedja are noting that they'll also get back Jeremy Howe (190cm), but I can't imagine how he'd match up here.

    So between Madgen, Langdon, Mihocek, and Howe - none of whom are over 192cm, they'll have to mind Hipwood (203cm), McStay (195cm) and McInerney (204cm).

    Could work really well, with our guys taking almost uncontested marks above the Pies defenders. Could also work horribly, with the ball coming to ground, and the Pies having the shorter guys to run it out.
     
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    I see Cox from Collingwood is starting to get some "arm chopping" frees after Nathan complained........well I hope the umpires do the same this week for Big O, McStay, Eric and Squizzy.
     
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    Hipwood, who I noticed someone called 'brick hands' doesn't take marks, contested or uncontested.

    I reckon he doesn't watch the ball enough, a bit like a batsman in a slump.

    This is a fault tht can be corrected and then, watch out.
     
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    Averaging just under 7 marks a game since the bye I think the key has been his movement and leading patterns. Doesn't take too many contested but those will come as he puts on some size and strength over the years.
     
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    Got my best mate into AFL this season and he adopted Collingwood as his side, it's going to be a sweet vengeance when we drop them out the eight this weekend!
     
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    Clearly you're not that great of a mate for allowing him to choose Collingwood.
     
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    What kind of best mates adopts Collingwood as his side?

    Get a new best mate.....fast
     
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    His old man and family is in Victoria, and QLD is typically the Rugby state. Half his family is Collingwood and the other half is Geelong, his old man dragged him to a Collingwood game when he was there right after I got him interested. :(
     
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    Eric Hipwood's 50th game this week; seems to have gone pretty quick.
     
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    I actually feel like he's been around for longer than that when I watch him. Lots to be excited about.
     
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    With Neafl bye, it's good to see all the first year players going to Melb this weekend, as they did last year, with those not in the team (Bailey, Ballenden, Payne, Wooller, Fullarton) going to 3 AFL games over the weekend.
     
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    In 1976 i was a country NSW kid that moved to Brisbane with my family. I played Rugby League as a skinny winger and went to a school that had no Rugby League but played a strange game called Aussie Rules. Everyone supported a VFL club so I picked the bottom one that year Collingwood. I thought I could be Peter Daicos and played in number 35. When the Bears moved to the Gabba 2 mates and I wrote to all our friends very formally and declared we were supporting the local team. since then I come to hate collingwood with a passion and Eddie McGuire and Buckley as so one eyed for themselves against every other club I wait for every game just to cheer against them. I was at both Grand final wins at the MCG and the second one sat with the Pies cheer squad and gave it to them all day. I've earned my stripes so to say - Pies get stuffed, hope we flog you.
     
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    Whyyyy would he do that:huh:
     
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    Hang on mate I will let you know after todays team meeting. I will give you Fages thoughts on every match up for Saturday night. Hope that suffices.
     
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    Thank god he choose a side that is really struggling for supporters. Another sheep at the station.
     
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    I will say though he supports us if we aren’t playing the pies and mentioned getting memberships next season.
     
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