Preview Round 21, 2021: Hawthorn v Collingwood 8 August 2021, 2.10pm @ MCG

[Rocket72]

Pies not top 4 contenders so no changes are going to get us the win.

 

[Rocket72]

Yeah, anyone remember Josh Thurgood?

Yea, being key position made it tough on him

 

[Rocket72]

Out bruest, Lewis (assuming concussion), Burgoyne
In Jeka, Saunders, Morris

given his legend status he’s probably on the selection committee now, so his call

 

[Accipiter]

Finn seems to miss out a fair bit in conversations, hope he gets a run before the end of the year just as a selectors way of saying we haven't forgotten you. On the flip side we probably can't play him, Nash and Shiels in the one side together for reasons of balance, but maybe give Shiels a break and Finn a lookin. Agree we should be sending players with niggles off for operations now, especially DGB if he needs repair. And lets face it, this competitive beast will probably break himself they way he throws himself into contests - rather treat any niggles now and give him another pre-season to battle harden his body. Lets give Morris a go at the expense of Burgoyne to see what we have got. Don't want to see S. Mitchell in as there is nothing to be gained, lets give him another summer to allow his body to mature before throwing him into the fire.

 

[Yardie]

Out: Nash

Oh , hang on

Wait a sec, people are talking about not winning.........

 

[Bardo State]

Finn seems to miss out a fair bit in conversations, hope he gets a run before the end of the year just as a selectors way of saying we haven't forgotten you. On the flip side we probably can't play him, Nash and Shiels in the one side together for reasons of balance, but maybe give Shiels a break and Finn a lookin. Agree we should be sending players with niggles off for operations now, especially DGB if he needs repair. And lets face it, this competitive beast will probably break himself they way he throws himself into contests - rather treat any niggles now and give him another pre-season to battle harden his body. Lets give Morris a go at the expense of Burgoyne to see what we have got. Don't want to see S. Mitchell in as there is nothing to be gained, lets give him another summer to allow his body to mature before throwing him into the fire.

Jai and Ollie were the standout Hawthorn listed midfielders for Box Hill on the weekend. 9 clearances each. Hard to see Finn getting a look this week.

 

[Accipiter]

Jai and Ollie were the standout Hawthorn listed midfielders for Box Hill on the weekend. 9 clearances each. Hard to see Finn getting a look this week.

Thanks Bardo, you have just prompted some thoughts - If Nash could bed down a midfield spot as an inside-enforcer could we have twinkle-toes Hanrahan hanging off him for that lightning flick out of the pack (working as a double act through the midfield)? Probably should look at Ollie again now that I think of it.

Do you think Finn's papers are stamped, or has he just dropped down the pecking order?

 

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

Thanks Bardo, you have just prompted some thoughts - If Nash could bed down a midfield spot as an inside-enforcer could we have twinkle-toes Hanrahan hanging off him for that lightning flick out of the pack (working as a double act through the midfield)? Probably should look at Ollie again now that I think of it.

Do you think Finn's papers are stamped, or has he just dropped down the pecking order?

I hope not. Had huge hopes for Finn and Downie and neither has progressed as expected.

 

[kirbatron]

another freshie please... saunders or downie for a proper run

 

[Bardo State]

Thanks Bardo, you have just prompted some thoughts - If Nash could bed down a midfield spot as an inside-enforcer could we have twinkle-toes Hanrahan hanging off him for that lightning flick out of the pack (working as a double act through the midfield)? Probably should look at Ollie again now that I think of it.

Do you think Finn's papers are stamped, or has he just dropped down the pecking order?

You'd definitely have to pair Ollie with our stronger and more defensive guys. Whether he gets selected will be very telling.

I wouldn't say Finn's papers are stamped. If you look at guys like Reeves, Jiath and Nash Vs guys like Harry Jones, Teia Miles or Jackson Ross, it's clear that there's a lot more than performance at VFL level that goes into list choices. Finn still has a great natural size, strength and endurance base. Finn could be a type where it will come together and his improvement will be rapid in the next 2 years. Still only coming up to 2 years in the system with basically half a season at Box Hill.

 

[Dewnior]

Yeah, anyone remember Josh Thurgood?

Yep, my lasting memory of Josh is C/O a goal of the year contender from Stuart Dew who made him look stupid when he turned him inside out in the forward pocket.

That was the moment I thought we need to get this bloke on our list

 

[daniel23]

Josh Morris

35

Josh Morris

Age

22

Ht

186cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.3

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

2.7

2star

M

1.3

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

81.0

1star

D

6.3

1star

K

3.7

1star

HB

2.7

2star

M

1.3

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

81.0

1star

D

6.3

2star

K

3.7

2star

HB

2.7

3star

M

1.3

2star

T

2.0

4star

MG

81.0

2star

will surely be a lock for the last few 3 games.

 

[WWSD]

This game is deadset 50/50. It will be a big test for Reeves coming up against Grundy. The next three games will tell us whether Nash can make it as a midfielder. One game is probably not a big enough sample size.

 

[Cyril says]

I’m more than a bit over all the negativity from outsiders this last week - they can all GAGF and EAD as far as I am concerned.

For Hawks naysayers - I hope you can get on the Mitchell wagon when it rolls around next year.

Meantime, full respect to the current list for giving Clarko a send off with how they played last week. I hope they can keep it up for the rest of the season.

GO HAWKS!

 

[CHUBBSS]

Josh Morris will surely be a lock for the last few 3 games.

Honestly what a great story for the year, he works so hard good to see things starting to work for him

 

[Hawk Dork]

A real danger game

 

[TylerDurden]

No mention of Lewis in the injury report.

Would think it's just Kozi for Breust now.

 

[Hawk Dork]

No mention of Lewis in the injury report.

Would think it's just Kozi for Breust now.

Dont think they mentioned Day the second time either

 

[Yardie]

Dont think they mentioned Day the second time either

Mitchell was effectively dead for like eight or more weeks......

 

[BigLittleHawk]

Thanks Bardo, you have just prompted some thoughts - If Nash could bed down a midfield spot as an inside-enforcer could we have twinkle-toes Hanrahan hanging off him for that lightning flick out of the pack (working as a double act through the midfield)? Probably should look at Ollie again now that I think of it.

Do you think Finn's papers are stamped, or has he just dropped down the pecking order?

Whilst I would have liked to have seen more from Finn, I reckon he might be a late bloomer like J.Kennedy from the Swans. They are both very similar in terms of type of player and physical build (and of course with their family connections), so let's hope their development and careers turn out the same!

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Finn has not even had one season in the VFL, and Sam himself has spoken well of the "jobs" he's done.

 

[Baz_hawk]

I wouldn't be surprised if Lewis has a week off. The medical team would be being extra cautious given his recent concussion so if there is any doubt they'll hold him back.
Kosi likely to return barring done unannounced injury.

In: Callow, Kosi, Hanrahan
Out: Breust (inj), Lewis (conc?), Burgoyne (managed)

 

[Hawks851]

Finn has not even had one season in the VFL, and Sam himself has spoken well of the "jobs" he's done.

so many people miss this fact that its his first year in the vfl

 

[Judd2Sewell]

so many people miss this fact that its his first year in the vfl

I guess people just really "hate" him.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

Morris for Burgoyne i hope happens.
Callow or Kossie could come in which is interesting because it might be a little tall with TOB also playing down there and Collingwood not having a tall fwd line like at all.
Saunders/Seamus i'd like to see but we likely see Ollie but then again i dont know how to feel because he needs to play mid not fwd.