can‘t agree more. on the way to ruining the essence of Aussie rules.
Autopsy Round 22 = Brisbane 142-57 Collingwood
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People keep suggesting Grundy should concede some of his salary but I’m not aware that’s possible. Only option would be extending total contract value over contract duration + 1 year as far as I’m aware.
If all parties to the contract agree I can't see what the issue would be...
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Was very tentative defensively. I wonder how confident he was with the finger.
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I thought we got rid of Phillips because we didn’t want Phillips.
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Very sad, even if technically it was there.
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The rule is stupid but can understand the intent. What irritates me more is when a player has a shot at goal veers off at the end and the player can't move. If its a shot at goal, another umpire needs to be right behind and calls play on as soon as there is movement off the line.
If you're not kicking over the player on the mark its play on.
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And that, but Daicos was slated to play the role so he wouldn't have played seniors.
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Pfft. Darren Millane played a finals series with a broken thumb! A healed finger shouldn't have held Daicos back. If he is going to be played in the thick of the action, he needs to grow a set or two.
I recall when Ross Twiggy Dunne broke his thumb, after his return he was never the same player again. Maybe the finger will similarly impact Daicos's career, bringing it to a screeching halt almost before it's begun.
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It will be the only way this will be accelerated is if our players stay injury free, youngsters come on quickly and we get a Clarko or an experienced coach who may get results quicker.
We may end up second last so potentially can also pick up someone in PSD.
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Hope not but I think Dawes was never the same after broke his hand in mid 2011Pfft. Darren Millane played a finals series with a broken thumb! A healed finger shouldn't have held Daicos back. If he is going to be played in the thick of the action, he needs to grow a set or two.
I recall when Ross Twiggy Dunne broke his thumb, after his return he was never the same player again. Maybe the finger will similarly impact Daicos's career, bringing it to a screeching halt almost before it's begun.
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It's like watching non contact netball. Football for sissies. Surely someone with half a brain will ditch the rule before next season!
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The trampoline transplant in the chest didn't help much either.
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That was one of the most inept efforts I've witnessed.
And driven by senior players, aside from Jack Crisp and Jordan De Goey.
Like how bad Mayne, Sidebottom, Grundy, Hoskin-Elliott, Mihocek, Roughead & Adams?
There are some very positive signs via the youth, but our complete lack of actual quality senior talent means our next 2-3 seasons are going to be incredibly grim.
And driven by senior players, aside from Jack Crisp and Jordan De Goey.
Like how bad Mayne, Sidebottom, Grundy, Hoskin-Elliott, Mihocek, Roughead & Adams?
There are some very positive signs via the youth, but our complete lack of actual quality senior talent means our next 2-3 seasons are going to be incredibly grim.
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Happy to be corrected, but that’s as I understand it.
After a promising start in the penultimate game of Collingwood's season, the Magpies were completely obliterated by the Brisbane Lions to the tune of 85 points (second-highest losing margin against the Brisbane Lions in VFL/AFL history). Brisbane were able to take plenty of marks inside 50 and on the rarest of nights were able to convert the vast majority of their set shots which definitively decided the contest. Kicking extremely accurately in front of goal enabled the Lions to win by the margin that they won by, which prevented Collingwood from hanging in the contest the longer the game had progressed. The Woods had no response to the onslaught of majors from their opponents that culminated any prospects of victory that there may have been on a filthy night and visit in Brisbane.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from handballs by +9 (164 - 155), uncontested possessions had a margin of +6 (230 - 224), while there was a differential of +16 for hit-outs (53 - 37), with centre clearances up narrowly by +1 (16 - 15, uncontested marks had a margin of +4 (76 - 72) and Tackles Inside 50 were won by +1 (12 - 11). The Lions won the remaining categories from disposals by +2 (375 - 373), +11 for kicks (220 - 209), while contested possessions had a margin of +3 (141 - 138), and intercept possessions were up by +5 (66 - 61). Clearances had a gap of +2 (43 - 41) with stoppage clearances won by +3 (28 - 25), Contested Marks had an advantage of +4 (14 - 10) and Marks Inside 50 had a comprehensive margin of +15 (23 - 8). Tackles were won by +18 (65 - 47), while Inside 50s had a decisive reading of +28 (70 - 42).
Steele Sidebottom (29 disposals @ 69%, 444 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 15 handballs, 4 marks, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) stayed busy in the midfield by linking up teammates by hand or foot to keep the ball in motion, which allowed that level of skill to result in scores.
Jordan De Goey (27 disposals @ 74%, 318 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 13 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had a lively start to the contest to give the Magpies an early spark, before that spark got extinguished by the Lions who were also able to diminish De Goey's influence and output over the remaining three quarters.
Taylor Adams (27 disposals @ 56%, 287 metres gained, 22 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 19 handballs, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 7 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) displayed his main strength in winning the contested ball at will, while also demonstrating skill errors when he had time and space to use it effectively. The fact that almost all of Adams' possessions were contested meant that he was under pressure to contribute to the team's ball movement.
Josh Daicos (22 disposals @ 64%, 335 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 16 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) made an earlier than expected return to AFL football, and struggled to adjust to the tempo and pressure that was placed on each of his possessions. Daicos was wearing a guard on his hand to protect the finger he injured 6 weeks ago.
Brodie Grundy (15 disposals @ 80%, 136 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 37 hit-outs, 4 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) may have had an exceptional number of hit-outs, but not many of them resulted in goals. Grundy was not able to take any marks which hindered his true influence on the contest, while tackling and clearance numbers were well below par for a player of his stature and standards.
Jack Crisp (30 disposals @ 77%, 427 metres gained, 16 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 16 handballs, 7 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 7 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) began the game in defence before being moved into the midfield for the second half. Crisp made plenty of skill errors like the rest of his teammates out there, but did not let that define his night as he attempted to give the Woods meaningful progress off half-back and from clearances when he was assigned to the midfield to give his team an option.
Chris Mayne (23 disposals @ 83%, 211 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 9 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) gave Collingwood stability behind the ball when he was available to take marks before kicking to a loose teammate when it was on, while also releasing handpasses to a teammate to escape converging pressure.
Brayden Maynard (18 disposals @ 78%, 344 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 5 handballs, 7 marks, 4 tackles, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 9 Rebound 50s) spent a lot of time defending ball movement where he got exposed by Charlie Cameron. The bulk of Maynard's possessions were generally kicked to a contest from half-back or the last line of defence where not many players for Collingwood won their aerial contests on the night.
Jack Madgen (17 disposals @ 88%, 178 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 8 handballs, 7 marks & 3 Rebound 50s) judged his marks well behind the ball in defence and maintained possession effectively without turning the ball over.
Jordan Roughead (15 disposals @ 80%, 273 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) took regular marks and made an effort to kick the ball long to a contest or to a loose player across goal to switch it over to open space which rarely occurred. Roughead had a rather rough night in attempting to curtail Joe Daniher who ran absolutely rampant.
Jamie Elliott (23 disposals @ 48%, 222 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 9 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 6 Inside 50s) presented at the ball carrier when he could, before being moved into the middle to win his possessions. Lack of quality supply up forward meant that Elliott could not directly impact the game on what was a challenging night.
Darcy Cameron (12 disposals @83%, 104 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 16 hit-outs, 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) made an effort to present up at the ball carrier as often as possible, but with limited success. Cameron had moderate success in the ruck whenever he gave Brodie Grundy a spell from competing in ruck contests at centre bounces or around the ground.
Josh Thomas (11 disposals @ 82%, 122 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements & 2 goals) kicked the opening goal in the opening seconds of the game before drifting out of the game. Thomas stayed involved in scoring chains before ending his night with a consolation goal that saw him reach 100 AFL goals on a trying night.
Brody Mihocek (11 disposals @ 36%, 228 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) capped off his season by wasting his chances once again, before Mihocek got himself suspended for the last game of the season. Make 2022 a more accurate season when you return to the line-up, Brody!
Oliver Henry (10 disposals @ 80%, 131 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) did all he could do across half-forward by leading up to present as an option up forward and capped off his game with another goal.
Jack Ginnivan (9 disposals @ 44%, 231 metres gained, 8 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 2 marks, 3 score involvements & 2 goals) had a rollicking first half with two excellent majors before supply up forward had dried up, rendering Ginnivan and his forward cohorts useless and inconsequential.
Collingwood's next game will be against Essendon on August 22 at the MCG. Last roll of the dice for the 2021 season. Make it count by ensuring that the Bombers bomb out in their quest for finals action, or make a contest out of it if victory cannot be achieved. Chris Mayne's last AFL game before he returns home to Perth, so let's send him out with an unlikely victory and take momentum into 2022.
Collingwood won their statistical categories from handballs by +9 (164 - 155), uncontested possessions had a margin of +6 (230 - 224), while there was a differential of +16 for hit-outs (53 - 37), with centre clearances up narrowly by +1 (16 - 15, uncontested marks had a margin of +4 (76 - 72) and Tackles Inside 50 were won by +1 (12 - 11). The Lions won the remaining categories from disposals by +2 (375 - 373), +11 for kicks (220 - 209), while contested possessions had a margin of +3 (141 - 138), and intercept possessions were up by +5 (66 - 61). Clearances had a gap of +2 (43 - 41) with stoppage clearances won by +3 (28 - 25), Contested Marks had an advantage of +4 (14 - 10) and Marks Inside 50 had a comprehensive margin of +15 (23 - 8). Tackles were won by +18 (65 - 47), while Inside 50s had a decisive reading of +28 (70 - 42).
Steele Sidebottom (29 disposals @ 69%, 444 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 22 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 15 handballs, 4 marks, 7 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 4 Inside 50s) stayed busy in the midfield by linking up teammates by hand or foot to keep the ball in motion, which allowed that level of skill to result in scores.
Jordan De Goey (27 disposals @ 74%, 318 metres gained, 9 contested possessions, 18 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 13 handballs, 3 marks, 4 tackles, 6 score involvements, 6 clearances, 2 centre clearances, 4 stoppage clearances, 5 Inside 50s, 2 Rebound 50s & 1 goal) had a lively start to the contest to give the Magpies an early spark, before that spark got extinguished by the Lions who were also able to diminish De Goey's influence and output over the remaining three quarters.
Taylor Adams (27 disposals @ 56%, 287 metres gained, 22 contested possessions, 5 uncontested possessions, 5 intercept possessions, 8 kicks, 19 handballs, 2 marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 7 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 3 Inside 50s) displayed his main strength in winning the contested ball at will, while also demonstrating skill errors when he had time and space to use it effectively. The fact that almost all of Adams' possessions were contested meant that he was under pressure to contribute to the team's ball movement.
Josh Daicos (22 disposals @ 64%, 335 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 17 uncontested possessions, 16 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 1 goal assist, 3 score involvements, 4 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) made an earlier than expected return to AFL football, and struggled to adjust to the tempo and pressure that was placed on each of his possessions. Daicos was wearing a guard on his hand to protect the finger he injured 6 weeks ago.
Brodie Grundy (15 disposals @ 80%, 136 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 37 hit-outs, 4 kicks, 11 handballs, 3 score involvements, 2 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 2 Rebound 50s) may have had an exceptional number of hit-outs, but not many of them resulted in goals. Grundy was not able to take any marks which hindered his true influence on the contest, while tackling and clearance numbers were well below par for a player of his stature and standards.
Jack Crisp (30 disposals @ 77%, 427 metres gained, 16 contested possessions, 14 uncontested possessions, 10 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 16 handballs, 7 marks, 2 Contested Marks, 4 tackles, 4 score involvements, 7 clearances, 5 centre clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 7 Inside 50s & 4 Rebound 50s) began the game in defence before being moved into the midfield for the second half. Crisp made plenty of skill errors like the rest of his teammates out there, but did not let that define his night as he attempted to give the Woods meaningful progress off half-back and from clearances when he was assigned to the midfield to give his team an option.
Chris Mayne (23 disposals @ 83%, 211 metres gained, 3 contested possessions, 20 uncontested possessions, 4 intercept possessions, 14 kicks, 9 handballs, 6 marks, 2 tackles, 5 score involvements & 4 Rebound 50s) gave Collingwood stability behind the ball when he was available to take marks before kicking to a loose teammate when it was on, while also releasing handpasses to a teammate to escape converging pressure.
Brayden Maynard (18 disposals @ 78%, 344 metres gained, 5 contested possessions, 13 uncontested possessions, 3 intercept possessions, 13 kicks, 5 handballs, 7 marks, 4 tackles, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances, 2 Inside 50s & 9 Rebound 50s) spent a lot of time defending ball movement where he got exposed by Charlie Cameron. The bulk of Maynard's possessions were generally kicked to a contest from half-back or the last line of defence where not many players for Collingwood won their aerial contests on the night.
Jack Madgen (17 disposals @ 88%, 178 metres gained, 7 contested possessions, 10 uncontested possessions, 9 intercept possessions, 9 kicks, 8 handballs, 7 marks & 3 Rebound 50s) judged his marks well behind the ball in defence and maintained possession effectively without turning the ball over.
Jordan Roughead (15 disposals @ 80%, 273 metres gained, 6 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 7 intercept possessions, 11 kicks, 4 handballs, 7 marks & 4 Rebound 50s) took regular marks and made an effort to kick the ball long to a contest or to a loose player across goal to switch it over to open space which rarely occurred. Roughead had a rather rough night in attempting to curtail Joe Daniher who ran absolutely rampant.
Jamie Elliott (23 disposals @ 48%, 222 metres gained, 11 contested possessions, 12 uncontested possessions, 14 kicks, 9 handballs, 4 marks, 4 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50, 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements, 3 clearances, 2 stoppage clearances & 6 Inside 50s) presented at the ball carrier when he could, before being moved into the middle to win his possessions. Lack of quality supply up forward meant that Elliott could not directly impact the game on what was a challenging night.
Darcy Cameron (12 disposals @83%, 104 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 8 uncontested possessions, 16 hit-outs, 5 kicks, 7 handballs, 5 marks, 3 tackles, 2 Tackles Inside 50 1 goal assist, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) made an effort to present up at the ball carrier as often as possible, but with limited success. Cameron had moderate success in the ruck whenever he gave Brodie Grundy a spell from competing in ruck contests at centre bounces or around the ground.
Josh Thomas (11 disposals @ 82%, 122 metres gained, 2 contested possessions, 9 uncontested possessions, 5 kicks, 6 handballs, 3 marks, 2 tackles, 1 goal assist, 7 score involvements & 2 goals) kicked the opening goal in the opening seconds of the game before drifting out of the game. Thomas stayed involved in scoring chains before ending his night with a consolation goal that saw him reach 100 AFL goals on a trying night.
Brody Mihocek (11 disposals @ 36%, 228 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 7 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 3 handballs, 4 marks, 2 Marks Inside 50, 6 score involvements, 2 Inside 50s & 1 goal) capped off his season by wasting his chances once again, before Mihocek got himself suspended for the last game of the season. Make 2022 a more accurate season when you return to the line-up, Brody!
Oliver Henry (10 disposals @ 80%, 131 metres gained, 4 contested possessions, 6 uncontested possessions, 6 kicks, 4 handballs, 4 marks, 4 score involvements & 1 goal) did all he could do across half-forward by leading up to present as an option up forward and capped off his game with another goal.
Jack Ginnivan (9 disposals @ 44%, 231 metres gained, 8 uncontested possessions, 8 kicks, 2 marks, 3 score involvements & 2 goals) had a rollicking first half with two excellent majors before supply up forward had dried up, rendering Ginnivan and his forward cohorts useless and inconsequential.
Collingwood's next game will be against Essendon on August 22 at the MCG. Last roll of the dice for the 2021 season. Make it count by ensuring that the Bombers bomb out in their quest for finals action, or make a contest out of it if victory cannot be achieved. Chris Mayne's last AFL game before he returns home to Perth, so let's send him out with an unlikely victory and take momentum into 2022.
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@jackcass 'happy to be corrected'! I'd like to see that!
Problem was his eye-sight, not his hands.
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****ed by laser surgery, weren't they?
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Really? That makes sense actually - always seemed late with his hands.
I totally agree. Right now I would say that we have close to the worst list in the AFL. And once again where are the emerging key forwards? The answer is that we do not have any! I can see the wooden spoon looming large on the horizon in 2022. Goodnight & good luck.
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He was never the same after someone, who shall remain nameless, tried to turn him into the next Leigh Brown.
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Jesus if he was still our coach people would be blaming him for covid, hope you have as much bile for the absolute *******s that gave him a substandard list through mismanagement, inflated contracts and ludicrous deals like Beams and blew a window that should have produced a couple of flags.
