Autopsy Round 23, 2025: Positives and Negatives vs Western Bulldogs

[Corn69]

Nobody got triggered mate, we’re just not doing the “lol these guys are so bad they’d get beaten by a bunch of girls!” schtick. It’s pathetic stuff.

Fair enough I guess.

 

[Coasters7]

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Didn't watch the game because I'm not insane, but we won the free kick count (despite what the game day thread had me think) and broke even at the stoppages which we never do. Even won the hitouts against the million dollar man. WTF happened?

The AFL have f*cked the sport. Can be competitive in most major stats but the direct nature of the modern game leaves young unorganised extremely vulnerable.

This is going to happen a lot more regularly for bottom 4 teams going forward. Basically impossible to stop momentum with more numbers back etc.

If the EPL ever introduced starting positions or zones there’d be no competitiveness whatsoever.

 

[DorothyG]

I think that was the worst forwardline we've ever put out (Shanahan the only shining light there). Midfield was slow. Defence was under siege and sloppy. All in all, top viewing.

Kinda worrying when at the start of the season, we would have all agreed that the forward line is probably our strongest line and of lest concern.

Now, Allen out the door, Waterman MIA for half the season, Ryan being shuffled around and getting a serious case of the yips, long progression flat lining, JWilliams going backwards. Owies, WTF.

We are relying on a 5 game player to lead the forward line. The game has seriously passed Cripps

Amazing what the season can throw up

 

[Byron_Clanger]

+ One game left...unfortunately it's against the Swans

- Broke my streak of games that I thought we'd get pizzled in but instead played better than expected. Thought we'd get pizzled...we did in fact get pizzled...the rope's been let go for season 2025, heaven help them next Saturday night.

 

[boondy]

+ another week closer to clearing out the list
May go the whole season without a 100 point loss

 

[the harry]

Just 4 quarters left until the off season.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Kinda worrying when at the start of the season, we would have all agreed that the forward line is probably our strongest line and of lest concern.

Amazing what the season can throw up

Had no Waterman or Allen for a very good portion of the season to be fair and Allen was a corpse for 95% of it.

 

[boondy]

Negatives
How do we compete with the bulldogs when they have 4 father and sons and more on the way.

Would be nice if they could even it up perhaps giving extra rookie academy spots to teams that haven't had academy or f/s on their list

 

[Astro7]

Had a feeling we'd get spanked after an intense effort last game, then an away trip. They definitely lacked the same intensity as last week, and depleted of key players of course.
But it just looked too easy for the dogs, like a training drill.
Should rebound (somewhat) against the Red Ducks next week at home.
Finals and Snoop Dog, then The Cleanout, then trade and draft time, then preseason........................................woohoo?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

The AFL have f*cked the sport. Can be competitive in most major stats but the direct nature of the modern game leaves young unorganised extremely vulnerable.

This is going to happen a lot more regularly for bottom 4 teams going forward. Basically impossible to stop momentum with more numbers back etc.

If the EPL ever introduced starting positions or zones there’d be no competitiveness whatsoever.

We have been playing players in the AFL in large numbers that are not ready for over a decade now.
It is supposed to be a best of the best comp but instead it’s a glorified colts comp for many clubs.
Men playing boys you end up with and the outcome in that scenario has always been the same.

 

[Balls In]

That looked like a team with its head up its own arse after a "not quite as bad as usual capitulation" last week. Lack of character on display from so many of that team and frankly most of them need to GAGF so we can build around the warriors. To many lack fortitude, direction, belief or talent to be anywhere near AFL.

 

[DorothyG]

Had no Waterman or Allen for a very good portion of the season to be fair and Allen was a corpse for 95% of it.

Oh, agree.
If you said who are our most important players and we cannot afford to lose Allen, Waterman, Yeo and Gov would be no negotiable.

Yet 3 are now gone never to be seen again and 3 we haven't seen for massive chunks of the year

 

[WeaponX]

I've sat through all the games either at Optus or on TV but today I just couldn't put myself through it, quarter time and I turned it off, we have become unwatchable.

 

[Westend]

Positives : another game down only one more to go

Negatives; just such a depressing player group one of the if not worst playing group to come from the great state of WA

 

[DorothyG]

Would be nice if they could even it up perhaps giving extra rookie academy spots to teams that haven't had academy or f/s on their list

Na,
We don't need anymore complications and exceptions of the draft.

Clubs just need to simply play fair market value for a FS/academy picks.

Simple as that.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

One more week till kayo gets the bin for 7 x months again.

I'm not interested in finals or watching and other teams, bar the occasional Flagmantl failure.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Na,
We don't need anymore complications and exceptions of the draft.

Clubs just need to simply play fair market value for a FS/academy picks.

Simple as that.

Worst team picks first.
Second worst team picks second.
Third worst team picks third.

And so on and so forth.

Then from the second round have it based on a duck, duck, goose championship for all I care. 1-18 untouched should be such a non negotiable and we’re so far from that it’s no wonder teams are getting stuck at the bottom for longer.

Looking forward to another 30+ pick first round again this year.

 

[cacik]

Kinda worrying when at the start of the season, we would have all agreed that the forward line is probably our strongest line and of lest concern.

Now, Allen out the door, Waterman MIA for half the season, Ryan being shuffled around and getting a serious case of the yips, long progression flat lining, JWilliams going backwards. Owies, WTF.

We are relying on a 5 game player to lead the forward line. The game has seriously passed Cripps

Amazing what the season can throw up

Great take from the season

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Really feel sorry for the coach. Not much to work with. Carer destroyer. Better of getting a gig in the franchises, guaranteed 3 x top 10 picks every year.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I like Chess and Davis on the wings

 

[cacik]

Na,
We don't need anymore complications and exceptions of the draft.

Clubs just need to simply play fair market value for a FS/academy picks.

Simple as that.

I agree.. the ashcrofts and daicoses of the world. Great FS rule in theory but gotta pay the chips for these guns

 

[DorothyG]

I agree.. the ashcrofts and daicoses of the world. Great FS rule in theory but gotta pay the chips for these guns

I've made this argument many times before so don't want to re hash it.

It's a great and wonderful part of our game, but unfortunately in the age of the professional league, it doesn't belong
It's far far too big of an advantage for clubs to be able to identify players with potential in there very early years, at the first sign of any potential, and basically know that you will get a free swing at them come draft day.

Great when guys had full time jobs outside of footy, let's leave it there where it begins

 

[Godfather32]

One more week till kayo gets the bin for 7 x months again.

I'm not interested in finals or watching and other teams, bar the occasional Flagmantl failure.

If things go well you'll still be able to watch a Flagmantle failure before you cancel

 

[boondy]

At start of year you might argue our 5 best players would be
McGovern .Waterman. Yeo. Harley Reid . Allen .
Even with all those available we were spoon favourites.
Perspective is with the players available it has been a very good effort .

 

[twce13]

I've made this argument many times before so don't want to re hash it.

It's a great and wonderful part of our game, but unfortunately in the age of the professional league, it doesn't belong
It's far far too big of an advantage for clubs to be able to identify players with potential in there very early years, at the first sign of any potential, and basically know that you will get a free swing at them come draft day.

Great when guys had full time jobs outside of footy, let's leave it there where it begins

It’s an amateur rule for an amateur sport.