Autopsy Round 24, 2025: Lions get the chocolates

[diggydig]

The decision that most annoyed me was where their defender just bumped into Chol front-on, no eyes for the ball, letting his team mate take an uncontested mark. Straight in front.

 

[chippie]

I think you’ve nailed it FB, we are too top heavy back and forward for a really effective transition game. BUT being at the game live and seeing our midfield outclassed completely the transition game is our only hope with the midfield such a weakness. I also don’t believe we can carry Breust and CMac. It’s time to roll the dice big time I reckon - Lewis, Breust and CMac out, - BMac, Buttler and Weddle in if he is ready. Way too much is being asked of Amon and Impey.

 

[SammyC]

We lost to a very very good team that showed up our weaknesses. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Weddle for CJ if fit.

Then we need at least another mid - Harry for Breust or one of the 4 talls (Lewis or Dear).

 

[chippie]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but the songs they play after goals is the cringiest shit ever.

Playing them way too long if they’re still blaring after the ball’s already been bounced in the middle.

And listening to the crowd still singing along after play had restarted made me want to throw up. BUT what really topped it off was at the very end of the game when the crowd started chanting “Liiiiooonns” ALA “Colllingwoooood”. My son and I couldn’t get out of there quick enough!

 

[chippie]

We lost to a very very good team that showed up our weaknesses. No need to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Weddle for CJ if fit.

Then we need at least another mid - Harry for Breust or one of the 4 talls (Lewis or Dear).

Sammy, you’re right but there were at least 3 or 4 that need to be dropped before CJ.

 

[Manila_Hawk]

Here is what I noticed.

1. When we got the ball to CHF, it was very annoying how easily Brisbane were able to turn the ball over and send it back the other way.

2. We didn't seem to have any system for kicking out after a behind (and there were a lot of them). While Brisbane were able to run the ball out easily without any Hawthorn player even getting close.

Very, very annoying.

 

[Bedi]

Why?

If the hawks are going to play 4 talls then the small forwards need to apply a mountain of pressure.

CMac is good at receiving and running into open goals against Essendon in Autumn, but he cannot bring pressure - or much else - when it matters.

Just literally last week he was one of our best, with almost 30 touches. You didn't see that game?

 

[Bedi]

we where not close tonight ...lons kick straight its a 6 goals win

Strange comment given we were only 4 points down at the end of the game, only to get the worse umpiring decision in living history that cost us the game.

 

[Whats a Battle]

Strange comment given we were only 4 points down at the end of the game, only to get the worse umpiring decision in living history that cost us the game.

That's exactly right. Surely a contender for the howler of the year. Even then, it's a crap rule by design. Impossible to adjudicate.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

It really just seemed like a good team getting beaten by a better team.

It was a frustrating game at times but I think a few people seemed to expect that we would win it?

 

[Whats a Battle]

It really just seemed like a good team getting beaten by a better team.

It was a frustrating game at times but I think a few people seemed to expect that we would win it?

I expected that we would, and we probably would have if not for the Fabio Grosso 2006 World Cup level howler.

 

[reubski23]

I have copped a significant amount of abuse around my thoughts on Mitch Lewis - noting my thoughts are for 2025 but if we are serious about winning a final he doesn’t play in a couple of weeks time - with a full preseason and confidence in his body he is a no brainer in 26 but his inability to take a mark in the forward 50 is costing us especially when our midfield is below par.

Mackenzie who I love has let us down massively since his injury - in form he gives us a viable option for dropping Worpel but right now we don’t have one.

Bruest and Lewis out

Morrison and whichever mid plays the best at BHH this week comes in

Edit - I didn’t think CJ was that bad at all - one obvious horrible decision but even the greats have had those moments. He plays with a lot of intent and physicality in the finals his little bit of X factor will be handy

 

[Whats a Battle]

Edit - I didn’t think CJ was that bad at all - one obvious horrible decision but even the greats have had those moments. He plays with a lot of intent and physicality in the finals his little bit of X factor will be handy

Agree totally. My theory, is in the absence of the usual whipping boy, CJ took his place.

 

[barbster]

Just literally last week he was one of our best, with almost 30 touches. You didn't see that game?

How many goals did he kick?

 

[Buttonsticher]

The issue is not the quality of umpires. It's the rules.

Even the most highly trained full time professional umpire cannot adjudicate the deliberate rule properly. Because it literally cannot be interpreted without the ability to read minds. Which, as far as I'm aware, humans do not have.

Either have it the way it was, or have a last touch rule.

Quality of the umpires aside i agree about the rules. As far as it is possible all 'interpretation' needs to taken out of the rules. Hands in the back is a free or its not.

 

[seysearles]

Not sure if it’s been mentioned yet but the songs they play after goals is the cringiest shit ever.

Playing them way too long if they’re still blaring after the ball’s already been bounced in the middle.

NRL state over sell. So artificial if you ask me. Treating you like a moron like you dont know when youre supposed to be excited.

 

[seysearles]

Here is what I noticed.

1. When we got the ball to CHF, it was very annoying how easily Brisbane were able to turn the ball over and send it back the other way.

2. We didn't seem to have any system for kicking out after a behind (and there were a lot of them). While Brisbane were able to run the ball out easily without any Hawthorn player even getting close.

Very, very annoying.

Also a lot of Hail Mary bombs out of D50 with no method other than to clear the area. Brisbane quickly noticed that and started pressing which resulted in all those clearances being marked. We are not a very accountable team when our opponent has the ball. I notice the way a lot of the other top teams put you under constant pressure and disrupt your ball movement. Hawthorn never seem to be able to maintain that over the course of a game only in short bursts.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

Razor on AFL 360 saying the Amon free was there. The umpires don't even know the definition of intent. Amateur organisation.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

Giants will likely regain Hogan and Kelly.

We have the matchup for Hogan, Key Forwards are not what I lose sleep over anymore. Kelly is a good in but we could also get Weddle back. Load up the midfield IMO so we can transition the ball better.

 

[MasterSamurai]

When you have three big frwds in your side, you'd expect some marks around the ground. One of Calsher or Lewis could miss. Need a lockdown half frwd to put clamps on opposition half backs cutting us up. Could Butler or Mackenzie maybe do that?

 

[MinerBoy]

I wouldn't say embarrassing, but needs addressing.

Largely ignored out of last night's game was how close Jai was to being the match winner. Went stupidly close to kicking 3 straight, one of which may have been goal of the year.

Also shouldn't have passed it to Watson in the pocket. He absolutely had the distance from 52 out.

His “almost goal of the year” was pretty much a tap in though by the time he got to kick it. Costly miss. Needed to nail that.

 

[grumbleguts]

And listening to the crowd still singing along after play had restarted made me want to throw up. BUT what really topped it off was at the very end of the game when the crowd started chanting “Liiiiooonns” ALA “Colllingwoooood”. My son and I couldn’t get out of there quick enough!

One of the most annoying nights of my life. It's a footy match not a f**king concert.

 

[SammyC]

Sammy, you’re right but there were at least 3 or 4 that need to be dropped before CJ.

I don’t disagree, he was not our worst and would be stiff but Weddle back would force a reshuffle so CJ is the unlucky one in my view.

Perhaps CJ gets the sub vest but we need to get harry in the starting 22 too.

 

[QuietB]

Just literally last week he was one of our best, with almost 30 touches. You didn't see that game?

Beating up on also rans is kinda the point.

 

[QuietB]

Agree totally. My theory, is in the absence of the usual whipping boy, CJ took his place.

CJ has a bit of Frosty about him. 95% of the time he is pretty good and athletic as anyone and looks the part. But every single game there is that one goat