Can you please identify the standards or performance and behavior that we rarely waver from?
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The mood swings from 'can we keep winning on pure talent, in spite of the coach?' to 'no we can't'.
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Apart from lapses such as that against West Coast and Brisbane, our application to 50/50 contests throughout each game can not be questioned. Furthermore, our resolve to continually fight for the best possible result despite a poor period of play has ensured that we have developed the ability to perform well under pressure (Carlton in Round 6, Geelong in the preliminary final). Standards of behaviour are exemplified in the way Hinkley has encouraged our players to communicate with one another in order for each player to play to their full potential.
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I think everyone knew at that same point. The gameday thread dropped off at that stage too. We've seen it all before.
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If success is measured by not being as s**t as the worst 5 year period in the club's 151 year history then sure, Hinkley is an outrageously successful coach and has had the club absolutely humming along for his entire tenure. If success is defined by competing for and winning trophies then Hinkley is a mediocre coach who has had plenty of opportunity to actually achieve something and has fallen short again and again.
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So what's your solution? Sack Hinkley? Who do we replace him with? It's all well and good to bag the bloke for his shortcomings but nobody is willing to brainstorm a practical alternative.
We didnt have one problem on Sat night we had all three ...
1] Midfield failed to get a first touch & clearance all game, with NicNat putting on a clinic while our mids watched on like admiring spectators
2] Defense crumbled under pressure, looking reactive, and fumbly
3] Our forward structure was terrible, with our talls often spoiling each other
Just have a look at Afl's Access All Areas 9:30 mark, as they show some vision of the Eagles forward structure. They constantly keep separation between the three talls, leaving open areas to lead into, and allowing opportunity to individually mark. None of that with our forward structure, which is a chaotic "all crowd together and hope for the best!"
I just cannot understand why we have Bassett as our forwards coach ... makes no sense whatsoever!
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1] Midfield failed to get a first touch & clearance all game, with NicNat putting on a clinic while our mids watched on like admiring spectators
2] Defense crumbled under pressure, looking reactive, and fumbly
3] Our forward structure was terrible, with our talls often spoiling each other
Just have a look at Afl's Access All Areas 9:30 mark, as they show some vision of the Eagles forward structure. They constantly keep separation between the three talls, leaving open areas to lead into, and allowing opportunity to individually mark. None of that with our forward structure, which is a chaotic "all crowd together and hope for the best!"
I just cannot understand why we have Bassett as our forwards coach ... makes no sense whatsoever!
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Too. Many. Times. The lethargic Port first quarters is a trademark of The Hinkley Years.
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For those who want to watch how we stuffed up.
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That wrap around free against Aliir was bullshit.
Ryan grabbed his arm and held it to his chest.
Ryan grabbed his arm and held it to his chest.
I was still hopeful up until that point. Things changed very, very quickly after. As soon as Kelly crumbed the ball from the resulting kick, with Wines trailing him by 10+ m, it was clear that they were much more switched on and determined than we were.
The umpires don't want defenders having an arm around at any point in a marking contest.
Our players need to get better at this. It's a simple fix - just don't do it.
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Every year we have at least one game where no matter what we do the footy gods just absolutely s**t on us, and that was the moment I knew this was gonna be one of those games. It was the Saints game last year.
Practical alternative #1.
Elevate Monty of Schofield.
Practical alternative #2
Splash cash at an experienced coach (less likely to succeed)
Practical alternative #3
Run a professional selection process and select the best available understanding that there is no guarantees they will be better but it is more likely than Ken suddenly getting better.
FYI I wouldn't take any of these alternatives until 2021 is a write off
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I've seen some meltdowns post-loss before but this is really next level.
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Thank you for offering solutions rather than problems. I think Ken deserves to have his contract honoured and if we haven't won a premiership by the end of 2023, we unequivocally move on.
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What about Nic Nats non holding the ball in the last, or Houston’s play on out of bounds?
they were clever, had very soft hands, felt a tackle ball was “dislodged”
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mate 11 seasons without winning a GF is two squad rotations in effect. The club is softer than butter on a 40 degree day if that’s the case kit to mention accepting mediocrity
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I want to see us turn around a 5 goal deficit against a good side.
We have been told many times that this group is hungry.
Prove it.
We have been told many times that this group is hungry.
Prove it.
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IMO the first few goals were near impossible to stop, especially that first one from Kelly. We've been able to do this to sides in the past.
The disappointing part was our inability to respond once 4-5 goals down.
That was the moment it turned into the Stuart Dew appreciation thread (tm)
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2021-2004 = 17
If the AFL plan for the draft is that a conveyor belt of singular premierships to different teams is the aim, then this year or next is our turn, thank you very much.
Please play like we are following the plan.
If the AFL plan for the draft is that a conveyor belt of singular premierships to different teams is the aim, then this year or next is our turn, thank you very much.
Please play like we are following the plan.
I think everyone else just assumed that you would work out those obvious alternatives for yourself.
On what basis does he deserve 2 more years if he fails again in 2021?
Why don't other clubs (even the basket cases) endure a lack of success for so long?
10 years with no flags does not deserve more years at a club that claims it "exists to win premierships"
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