Review Round 3, 2026 vs West Coast

[The Hobo]

Starting well and then disappearing for the rest of the game happened in the North Melbourne and Glenelg games as well. It’s completely unacceptable to just switch off for 3 straight quarters.

The team in the first quarter showed fight and were clean. I understand fluctuations in form during a game, but how does this not return at all in the 2nd half at any point?

Is this a fitness issue? We have had a fitness issue for a number of seasons, and I've called it out.

It hasn't looked to be a fitness issue with the eye test, but the data is piling up suggesting we can't play 4 quarters.

 

[RossFC]

Is this a fitness issue? We have had a fitness issue for a number of seasons, and I've called it out.

It hasn't looked to be a fitness issue with the eye test, but the data is piling up suggesting we can't play 4 quarters.

We don't look cooked at the end of games. This is us blatantly not even trying from early in the 2nd quarter.

 

[The Hobo]

wouldve been + in clearances but +30 in turnovers.

He was god awful against Glenelg.

Glenelg for **** sake.

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DE was 63% in his brownlow year. Players that play his style are not in the team for high DE (as nice as it would be).

 

[rogerjames]

The Houston deal and the circumstances surrounding it could well end up being one of those cataclysmic deals that is spoken of in terms of “that was the moment our world changed”.

Do a serious head coach, GM, and club chairman who aren’t all swanning around like they own the joint while simultaneously subject to constant speculation they’re out the door, make/sanction that deal as it happened?

How on earth did we hold all the cards yet completely fold and give the Pies, Suns and the outgoing and incoming players concerned literally everything they wanted?

Unless Luko in particular pulls his finger out and Richards becomes anything more than a faceless squadbod who could feasibly be replaced by any second round pick in a given year, that deal should see everyone responsible sent to The Hague.

The trade from hell. Those involved should be thrown out of the club for sabotaging it.

 

[rogerjames]

I'm being repetitive about this but I reckon the umpiring has a role to play in this too. In the second quarter, they started calling our short chip-kicks as too short. That meant the recipient was immediately under pressure. It also meant we started having to go longer to make sure the umpires called the mark. The first of these resulted in more rushed kicks and the latter ended up in more kicks to contests. We were also rushed from marks and free kicks by truly bizarre 'play on' calls (one where Mead was literally standing still and there was no hurry up warning).

None of this is to absolve the players and coaches for an abysmal performance after quarter time. We should be able to adapt in those circumstances. However, with a team made up of a lot of inexperienced and/or second-string players, it is more understandable.

Most of those 'not 15m' were correctly called, it's just that they normally aren't. The play on calls were bewildering.

 

[Lefti93]

Didn't realise the ball can bounce off the ground and be called a mark different rules for different Clubs
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Pathetic bushleauge trash

I saw that from the other side of the ground. Umpire 15m away couldn't see it.

 

[rogerjames]

I'm certainly a bit worried about our effort level under Carr. Pressure is about effort. We've spent 5 quarters this year downhill skiing against trash but as soon as the opposition pressure raised a bit, we completely folded. Having a bad list doesn't make experienced, proven players play lazy footy, and we've seen plenty of that in the first 3 weeks.

I fully agree that a lot of this is just a continuation of our culture under Hinkley but it actually seems a little bit worse than that. Where is the new coach bounce? Where is the initial setting of standards?

He's not really a new coach though. He's been part of the problem. IF he's allowing Hinkley to hang around before & after games (this needs to be confirmed) then he's not the coach to break the Hinkley stench.

 

[_VXV]

Throw the farm at Mackie and buy him his own personal 24K plated barrel to bend the other managers over and we'll be sweet. Maybe even the Freo list manager, they seem to have done alright.

Just a reminder the last person Mackie insisted Port pick up was Ken…

 

[all seeing eye]

Looking through the stats and the big standout was that we were smashed in stoppage clearances 15 to 31. This is consistent theme over a extended period, when we lose stoppages badly, we generally lose the game. We can highlight moments around the field but modern afl is won in the middle and in stoppages.

 

[Portmagpies36]

For a big guy he drops too many easy marks. He also misses too many easy goals. Overall thought he let us down badly yesterday at key moments. Imo he's an average ruckman & below average around the ground. Rucks are still a real problem.

There’s a reason why he was running around in the Western Bulldogs reserves side for 5 years and not getting a whiff of interest from any other club.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

our kicking for goal is still an issue. we went from 5.1 to 9.11. So when the heat was on and we needed to kick away get a steadier we kept missing.

Bloody frustrating we cant kick important goals.

Twice in the first quarter we missed simple shots on goal (Georgie set shot, Berry snap as I recall) and both times West Coast scored goals on the rebound from the kick in.

We should have had 8-9 goals at quarter time and would have rolled right over them.

But could have, should have usually ends in tears.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Is this a fitness issue? We have had a fitness issue for a number of seasons, and I've called it out.

It hasn't looked to be a fitness issue with the eye test, but the data is piling up suggesting we can't play 4 quarters.

Nothing to do with fitness, sides put us under pressure we crumble. End of.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

For a big guy he drops too many easy marks. He also misses too many easy goals. Overall thought he let us down badly yesterday at key moments. Imo he's an average ruckman & below average around the ground. Rucks are still a real problem.

He's a solid workhorse, no more.

I really expected Visentini to overtake him but now I'm not sure. Vis drops marks too and doesn't seem to get much of it around the ground either. His brother hunts the ball better than him.

Would still rather they had persisted with Vis after the North game against what should have been more gettable opposition.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Twice in the first quarter we missed simple shots on goal (Georgie set shot, Berry snap as I recall) and both times West Coast scored goals on the rebound from the kick in.

We should have had 8-9 goals at quarter time and would have rolled right over them.

But could have, should have usually ends in tears.

The Berry miss in the first quarter inexcusable, on his left foot 30 out no one near him he decides to kick it round the corner just pitiful decision making.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

The Berry miss in the first quarter inexcusable, on his left foot 30 out no one near him he decides to kick it round the corner just pitiful decision making.

I didn't realise he was in so much space until I saw the shot replayed on the news. That was a gimme.

 

[Lefti93]

The Berry miss in the first quarter inexcusable, on his left foot 30 out no one near him he decides to kick it round the corner just pitiful decision making.

I was peaking!

 

[Acemanjam]

Just a reminder the last person Mackie insisted Port pick up was Ken…

From his point of view it was a stroke of genious. We didn't win a flag the entire time Ken was here. One less team to compete with

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

our kicking for goal is still an issue. we went from 5.1 to 9.11. So when the heat was on and we needed to kick away get a steadier we kept missing.

Bloody frustrating we cant kick important goals.

We have been like this for many years. Partly due to haphazard way we enter I50 and have difficult shots, partly bad set shot goal kicking and partly poor shots on the run.

Whenever we have started the game and have a 5.1 of 8.3 type score line, I say to myself, we are going to start racking up the points now.

When we play away from home we usually rack up points early - 3.6 or go from 4.4 to 4.9 type scoreline.

Racking up points just kills our momentum.

Scoreboard pressure is the best pressure we can put on the opposition. We don't seem to get that through the players thick skulls.

 

[240volt]

I was peaking!

You must have been disappointed.

 

[tribey]

He's a solid workhorse, no more.

I really expected Visentini to overtake him but now I'm not sure. Vis drops marks too and doesn't seem to get much of it around the ground either. His brother hunts the ball better than him.

Would still rather they had persisted with Vis after the North game against what should have been more gettable opposition.

And Soldo would be on more coin that the two of them combined

 

[240volt]

We have been like this for many years. Partly due to haphazard way we enter I50 and have difficult shots, partly bad set shot goal kicking and partly poor shots on the run.

Whenever we have started the game and have a 5.1 of 8.3 type score line, I say to myself, we are going to start racking up the points now.

When we play away from home we usually rack up points early - 3.6 or go from 4.4 to 4.9 type scoreline.

Racking up points just kills our momentum.

Scoreboard pressure is the best pressure we can put on the opposition. We don't seem to get that through the players thick skulls.

Sometimes I believe we bring that on ourselves by drafting players with poor kicking skills and then expecting them to kick better when they hit a AFL side.
I still go back to the Hawthorn success of drafting players with good kicking skills especially left footers.
It won them 3 flags in a row and still stands for me as the model for success.
I don’t need to remind you what Wally May used to say

 

[Cheese Tastes Good]

we're just trying to get a high draft pick considering we don't own any right? this year is just about tanking and developing

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Eleni Tee comes across as having never played AFL before. She just doesn't have a feel for the game. Terrible umpire and if she was in the Navy, a submarine or two would be down. Horrible DEI rubbish.

She umpires how I would umpire if you gave me a Crows game.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Since Koch got here its never been about the footy

Middle of the road is the absolute worst place to be in AFL footy and that is exactly where Koch aims for us to be.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

She umpires how I would umpire if you gave me a Crows game.

That's as good a description as I've read

It's like every game she pegs us when we least expect it.