Preview Round 4, 2019: St.Kilda v Hawthorn - Marvel Stadium, Sunday 14th April, 3:20PM AEST *BLUE RIBBON CUP*

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

Max King to CHF

 

[bird_man]

Steven for Kent inches right is the obvious change for me.

I'd then like to see Hind come in but I'm not sure who for, provably Sinclair or Acres.

 

[tim_saints]

Max King to CHF

Won’t that be a good day.

 

[SaintersUnite]

Kent for Young
Sinclair for Steven
McKenzie for Hind

Hope during the week we work on our forward 50 entries and set shots, because those two factors are what cost us the game. Effort could not be faulted.

There was one play within the final 10 minutes where Savage had marked it on the wing, and there was ZERO movement inside forward 50, all the forwards were just standing with their man waiting for the long bomb.


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[Sainteric]

Steven long young in

Out dunstan sinclair one of parker kent or lonie all avg

last two rounds lonie has been great only thing is we can be very small in the middle, Parker surely would not be dropped.

 

[Sainteric]

Kent for Young
Sinclair for Steven
McKenzie for Hind

Hope during the week we work on our forward 50 entries and set shots, because those two factors are what cost us the game. Effort could not be faulted.

There was one play within the final 10 minutes where Savage had marked it on the wing, and there was ZERO movement inside forward 50, all the forwards were just standing with their man waiting for the long bomb.


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McKenzie I thought was the best he has played out of the 3 games.

 

[Sab22]

If we hit targets in our 50 instead of bombing, we don't need another KF.

 

[cooperrules]

last two rounds lonie has been great only thing is we can be very small in the middle, Parker surely would not be dropped.

1 goal between 3 small forwards is not Good enough. Especially when we bomb it all the time its a crumbers dream.

 

[plugger66]

Steven in if ok Maybe Sinclair out.

 

[Moral Decay]

My biggest worry about Freo was Mundy, Fyfe and playing a drag out low scoring game, which is what we got. My worry about Hawthorn is that we'll spend all our time chasing tail. Omeara, Wingard, Smith we have nothing to compete with these blokes, yes Gresh and Billings will go close but we need to have a day out and they need to be poor. Marshall will struggle against Ceglar and Benny Mac. Our defence matches up well but who will contain Breust? Our Forwards match up well, Chips to hold Bruce but Membrey or Parker will provide problems. For all that we can win, Ratt's IP is a big advantage and our pressure game will help us but if they get clean possession we're in trouble. The centre of the ground will define the game we will live and die on Disposal Efficiency and our ability to break down their game style.

 

[StCicatriz]

we have to get a win. this is where we see where we are at

 

[The Enemy Within]

Geary to Breust & i hope Chips doe's go to Bruce hasn't got the speed or smarts for him

 

[StCicatriz]

another option might be to go for run. we might see the need to drop clark for stuv and really try to get as many legs through the side as possible

 

[Strahany]

If a long kick inside 50 is considered an option in our ball movement, then a third tall needs to be considered. Too often we bombed it in on top of Kent/Lonie/[insert other undersized player here]. If these small, quick players are as good at providing run and carry as they’re supposed to be, then we wouldn’t have to be resorting to this long bomb; at this point, they’re providing the cons of a small player without the pros.

Steven to come in for one of Dunstan/Acres/Clark
Long (or a KPF) in for Kent
Hind? in for McKenzie

 

[plugger66]

If a long kick inside 50 is considered an option in our ball movement, then a third tall needs to be considered. Too often we bombed it in on top of Kent/Lonie/[insert other undersized player here]. If these small, quick players are as good at providing run and carry as they’re supposed to be, then we wouldn’t have to be resorting to this long bomb; at this point, they’re providing the cons of a small player without the pros.

Steven to come in for one of Dunstan/Acres/Clark
Long (or a KPF) in for Kent
Hind? in for McKenzie

If you bomb it you just need a contest. You are better to have smaller players if bombing it because it should go to ground if there is a contest

 

[Barrels]

Sandy will be playing Box Hill before the main game as a good old-fashioned curtain raiser... and give ‘em credit, despite the often fractious relationship between us and them, they’re wearing this...

 

[Strahany]

If you bomb it you just need a contest. You are better to have smaller players if bombing it because it should go to ground if there is a contest

And the 13, 9, and 7 marks to Ryan, Hamling, and Duman is testament to the fact that the small players didn’t contest. If having small players was the be all and end all, you would have all 6 forwards as small and go from there; but that won’t count for anything when the ball won’t get to the ground in the first place, as was the case yesterday.

I’d rather one less small player on the ground in order to have a tall player who *will* create the contest, rather than having the extra one “just in case” it happens (which, as yesterday shows, isn’t often).

And this is before considering the benefit that will come from the tall player marking and having a set shot, which isn’t even a genuine possibility with the small forward set up we had yesterday.

 

[plugger66]

And the 13, 9, and 7 marks to Ryan, Hamling, and Duman is testament to the fact that the small players didn’t contest. If having small players was the be all and end all, you would have all 6 forwards as small and go from there; but that won’t count for anything when the ball won’t get to the ground in the first place, as was the case yesterday.

I’d rather one less small player on the ground in order to have a tall player who *will* create the contest, rather than having the extra one “just in case” it happens (which, as yesterday shows, isn’t often).

And this is before considering the benefit that will come from the tall player marking and having a set shot, which isn’t even a genuine possibility with the small forward set up we had yesterday.

Well the tigers bombed it when they won the flag and got by with one tall. You could have 6 talls and the opposition could still take that many marks if there is no one there to contest. It wasn’t like they were contested marks. The players kicking it in have to be smarter. Putting another tall in the forward line doesn’t change a thing.

 

[VDS66]

another option might be to go for run. we might see the need to drop clark for stuv and really try to get as many legs through the side as possible

44?

 

[Moral Decay]

Well the tigers bombed it when they won the flag and got by with one tall. You could have 6 talls and the opposition could still take that many marks if there is no one there to contest. It wasn’t like they were contested marks. The players kicking it in have to be smarter. Putting another tall in the forward line doesn’t change a thing.

We're not the Tiges we don't have a Cotchin and Dusty midfield. We have what we have and we'll have to make the best of them. With our mids and their slow ugly feet and ball movement we're probably better off with another tall but unless that's Battle forward we don't have that tall anyway. I think they'll want to play Battle on Gunston which means we stick with Kent or bring Young in, though they'll probably choose Stuv and he'll have to play mid which will leave us with Acres and Sinclair forward again

This is what we need
If you're going to fight,
fight like you're the third monkey
on the ramp to Noah's Ark.
And brother, it's starting to rain.

 

[St Pauls]

This should be a real test for us. Will really show where we are at this year.

Hopefully Steven back in.

Would like to see Hind get a go. I think we struggled with quick transition because of how Freo set up. Hopefully Hind offers something a bit different coming out of defence and can break some lines.

Hopefully we quick transition we will be kicking in to open forward 50s rather than 30 players in there, where it’s just about impossible to pin point a pass.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I'm the least confident about this game compared to the last ones. Roma will likely get monstered in the ruck on his own so l wouldn't be surprised to see Lewie come back in, or even Billy if he's up to it. Kent and Sincs should probably come out and Parker might be given a spell too.
Stuv, Long and another ruckman to come in. Marshall up forward will give plenty.
Parker tagging Sicily might be too good to pass up though. Worth the price of admission on its own it would be!!

 

[_Maximus_12]

This is the real test for the group... how they now respond after letting one slip. Come back with intent, and vigour, or begin to let old habits creep back in.
This week will tell us a lot about our 'improvement'

 

[Mowman]

We're not the Tiges we don't have a Cotchin and Dusty midfield. We have what we have and we'll have to make the best of them. With our mids and their slow ugly feet and ball movement we're probably better off with another tall but unless that's Battle forward we don't have that tall anyway. I think they'll want to play Battle on Gunston which means we stick with Kent or bring Young in, though they'll probably choose Stuv and he'll have to play mid which will leave us with Acres and Sinclair forward again

This is what we need
If you're going to fight,
fight like you're the third monkey
on the ramp to Noah's Ark.
And brother, it's starting to rain.

And the Tigers went and got Lynch from GC because they wanted another tall

 

[plugger66]

And the Tigers went and got Lynch from GC because they wanted another tall

Yep so they have 2. And they have won one out of three. Working perfectly