Preview Round 4 2021 - Collingwood Magpies vs GWS Giants, 7:25 PM MCG, Saturday April 10

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PMBangers

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Welcome one and all to what could be our most exciting game of the year. We're on the road to a ground we haven't played at since the 2019 Preliminary Final, where the Grand Final was unfortunately cancelled and VICBIAS saw the cup go to Richmond. The positive? We beat Collingwood in that final game in a nail biting finish, a true show of guts and determination from a GIANTS group ravished by injuries to key players, and a suspension for the biggest key player. Can we repeat this miracle? or will we find ourselves 0-4 and staring at a bottom 3 finish?

Form
Collingwood come into this game fresh off a disappointing loss to Brisbane, where a goal after the siren would prove the difference. Prior to that, the Pies had been beaten by the Bulldogs in Round 1, and defeated GWS Reserves (Carlton) in Round 2. What's evident is that they're beating teams worse than them, and struggling against the teams they should be at the same level of, seeing them come in sitting 10th on the ladder!

Looking at GWS, well, you know the story, 3 losses on the trot to an injury plagued St Kilda, injury plagued Fremantle, and relatively healthy and inform Melbourne. It hasn't been great, we don't have to go into specifics but the line 'worst 3 games in club history' has been thrown about, not by me.

Injuries
The Pies are coming into this contest Healthy as, with only Trent Bianco (yet to debut) and Jamie Elliott (not a bad player admittedly) expected to be unavailable for selection

GWS have a nice little cricket team building in the rehab group. Tom Hucthesson, Adam Kennedy, Daniel Lloyd, Braydon Preuss, Sam Reid, Lachie Whitfield, Stephen Coniglio, Matt De Boer and Phil Davis are unlikely to be available for selection, quite a few best 22 players involved in that group makes us look light on, especially in defensive 50 with the ever reliable Davis gone.

The subplot
There's a couple of things to look at in our subplots here. First off, this is a 'season back on track' game, whichever club loses here is going to be open slather for the media and rightfully so, at best, we're both 1-3, at worst we're clearly on the level of North Melbourne and in an almost impossible position to make finals.

Second off, these are always good games with a fair bit of intensity given we have a few ex-players there, and we've come up against each other in a couple of good finals games, I'm hoping this continues, with us winning, but a good contest where the aggressiveness and relentlessness from both sides is on full display.

Thirdly and finally, my favourite area of AFL, we currently hold Collingwoods 2021 First Rounder, it's in our best interest to be smacking them about and demoralising them to get ourselves the best possible pick out of them

Prediction
It's just one of those games that, despite the form, could genuinely go either way. We as a club have come up against worst odds and put on some really good displays, but we also just as easily go into our shells and let teams walk over us in the face of the slightest hardship. I have no value for my creditability as a results predictor though, so I'll go with GWS by 13 points to get our season on track
 

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Hoping for any of Hogan, TOJ or Riccardi to come in but it may have to be Briggs

Perryman Keefe Haynes
Cumming Taylor Ash
Kelly Ward Buckley
Greene Tall forward/Briggs Bruhn
Hill HH Daniels
Flynn Hopper Taranto
Green Shipley O'Halloran Idun

It will be interesting to see the emergencies this week as I dont think we will have any players yet to debut fit apart from Mumford
 

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Haynes Keefe Cumming
Ash Taylor Perryman (?)
Kelly Hopper Shipley
Daniels Riccardi Greene
Hill HH Buntine
Flynn Green Taranto

Briggs XO Idun Ward
 

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Giant Pete

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Just go into every game this year expecting to lose. It works.
Look for positives for next year and beyond.
Oh, and hopefully we don’t play Buntine on DeGoey.
 

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My thoughts based on Cogs, Phil, Dutchy & Pez out for this game & only Riccardi of the injured group available to return:
  • Lachie Keeffe to take over Phil's role down back, but relieved of his second ruck duties. He can definitely cover Cox when he's back.
  • Jack Buckley into the backline - he'll need to be used there for real at some time given our rate of carnage (but he & Keeffe can switch hit standing on the wing for the transition out of D50).
  • That replicates our previous years' approach down back, with Sam Taylor as third tall & Nick Haynes the tall/small role.
  • Matt Buntine should be banished - he gives us nothing useful based on that game and I'd prefer to let Idun play. Cumming & Ash the other medium/small defenders.
  • Bring in Keiran Briggs to debut as second ruck/forward. HH is outnumbered and ineffective as a (mostly) lone KPF. Two ruckmen - albeit very inexperienced - against Brodie Grundy might at least win some a battle here or there, and Briggs can be a big lump forward to contest.
  • If Riccardi is fit, he comes back, to make it a 3-tall forward line and make the Pies defenders earn their money. It would be a very inexperienced forward line, but let's use this year to give them that experience.
  • Green & O'Halloran were solid, we need to see more of that, and with Cogs and de Boer out, perfect opportunity to give them experience; especially O'Halloran in the midfield rather than nominally forward where he started last night.
  • Shipley hasn't had a run since his first year -put him on the wing opposite X and let him run up and down all day.
  • Bruhn probably gets a look in up forward (in place of X moving to midfield) given he was last out, while Conor Stone might be an option to start as a medium forward.
  • Bobby Hill is probably under pressure for his lack of pressure, but probably keeps his spot due to the many other changes.

Keeffe Taylor Buckley Haynes Idun Cumming Ash
Flynn Hopper Taranto Green Kelly O'Halloran Ward Shipley
HH Riccardi Briggs Greene (c) Daniels Hill Bruhn

Out: Coniglio Davis de Boer Buntine
In: Riccardi Briggs (debut) Shipley Bruhn
 

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My thoughts based on Cogs, Phil, Dutchy & Pez out for this game & only Riccardi of the injured group available to return:
  • Lachie Keeffe to take over Phil's role down back, but relieved of his second ruck duties. He can definitely cover Cox when he's back.
  • Jack Buckley into the backline - he'll need to be used there for real at some time given our rate of carnage (but he & Keeffe can switch hit standing on the wing for the transition out of D50).
  • That replicates our previous years' approach down back, with Sam Taylor as third tall & Nick Haynes the tall/small role.
  • Matt Buntine should be banished - he gives us nothing useful based on that game and I'd prefer to let Idun play. Cumming & Ash the other medium/small defenders.
  • Bring in Keiran Briggs to debut as second ruck/forward. HH is outnumbered and ineffective as a (mostly) lone KPF. Two ruckmen - albeit very inexperienced - against Brodie Grundy might at least win some a battle here or there, and Briggs can be a big lump forward to contest.
  • If Riccardi is fit, he comes back, to make it a 3-tall forward line and make the Pies defenders earn their money. It would be a very inexperienced forward line, but let's use this year to give them that experience.
  • Green & O'Halloran were solid, we need to see more of that, and with Cogs and de Boer out, perfect opportunity to give them experience; especially O'Halloran in the midfield rather than nominally forward where he started last night.
  • Shipley hasn't had a run since his first year -put him on the wing opposite X and let him run up and down all day.
  • Bruhn probably gets a look in up forward (in place of X moving to midfield) given he was last out, while Conor Stone might be an option to start as a medium forward.
  • Bobby Hill is probably under pressure for his lack of pressure, but probably keeps his spot due to the many other changes.

Keeffe Taylor Buckley Haynes Idun Cumming Ash
Flynn Hopper Taranto Green Kelly O'Halloran Ward Shipley
HH Riccardi Briggs Greene (c) Daniels Hill Bruhn

Out: Coniglio Davis de Boer Buntine
In: Riccardi Briggs (debut) Shipley Bruhn
Would love Briggs in but I can’t see Leon doing it.
Hope I’m wrong.
 

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