Game Day Round 4, 2021: Fremantle v Hawthorn, 11 April 2021, 4.40pm AEST @ Optus Stadium

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PhatHQ

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Happy with the line up.
Clarko will do his thing of playing the older heads for a few more weeks and shake it up after that.

Not real keen on seeing Cegs get a run after last week and hope that Greaves gets a call up. If Cegs does play at the same level we will loose and his papers stamped. Still looks at the oppo ruck and not the ball.

Really feel like we will have more confidence with inside 50s this week with TO in. I just hope the boys can get on a lead and the mids lower their eyes.

I don’t want to see the sideways and backwards crap or the long bomb inside 50.

Hardwick to go forward
 

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Rain could suit us potentially, we don't score much anyways so if it's heavy rain it's likely the match won't require a big score to win.
 

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Happy with the line up.
Clarko will do his thing of playing the older heads for a few more weeks and shake it up after that.

Not real keen on seeing Cegs get a run after last week and hope that Greaves gets a call up. If Cegs does play at the same level we will loose and his papers stamped. Still looks at the oppo ruck and not the ball.

Really feel like we will have more confidence with inside 50s this week with TO in. I just hope the boys can get on a lead and the mids lower their eyes.

I don’t want to see the sideways and backwards crap or the long bomb inside 50.

Hardwick to go forward
TOB in? Oh FFS
 

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Not that enthused with the changes to the lineup, but maybe some late emergencies might swing something.

Looking at how wet it will be, we really do be running a bit too tall.

Main issue I have is just a lack of accountability for poor performances - Cegs and TOB in the squad after indifferent/poor form. Just feels a little like Clarko picking his favourites, whilst Box Hill players are putting their hands up. Hartley deserves a look but at 27, is a short term band aid rather than long term development.
 

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Not that enthused with the changes to the lineup, but maybe some late emergencies might swing something.

Looking at how wet it will be, we really do be running a bit too tall.

Main issue I have is just a lack of accountability for poor performances - Cegs and TOB in the squad after indifferent/poor form. Just feels a little like Clarko picking his favourites, whilst Box Hill players are putting their hands up. Hartley deserves a look but at 27, is a short term band aid rather than long term development.
How as Ceglar been in poor form, do people stick to their copy and paste ideas with zero regard to actually events?
 

Roger Rogerson

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Not that enthused with the changes to the lineup, but maybe some late emergencies might swing something.

Looking at how wet it will be, we really do be running a bit too tall.

Main issue I have is just a lack of accountability for poor performances - Cegs and TOB in the squad after indifferent/poor form. Just feels a little like Clarko picking his favourites, whilst Box Hill players are putting their hands up. Hartley deserves a look but at 27, is a short term band aid rather than long term development.
Tob got dropped for poor form so did get a rocket. Get his chance again. Not unhappy with that.
 

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How as Ceglar been in poor form, do people stick to their copy and paste ideas with zero regard to actually events?
Structurally he's been important for the team, but on an individual level, last week he was insipid. No influence on the contest whatsoever, particularly in the forward line where he is meant to take contested marks. The stats from last week back that up.

Looking even longer term, one of the main reasons McEvoy is back as ruck is because Ceglar as sole ruck failed to live up to the expectations placed on him. I'd say he has plenty to answer for.

If you're going to counter an argument saying my take is just flavour of the month, back it up with an argument instead of nonsense comebacks :)
 

Larry Barnsworth

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  1. Behind on the scoreboard early, but ran hard in the 2nd half, was creative, came from behind and won a close one
  2. Behind on the scoreboard early, but ran hard in the 2nd half, tried to be creative and come from behind but struggled to close the gap
  3. Behind on the scoreboard early, but ran hard in the 2nd half, was creative, came from behind but lost a close one.
What I'd like to see today is us not be 3+ goals down at quarter time and having to engineer a heroic come from behind pursuit of victory. Don't have the stats, but I reckon you lose more of those than you win.

Kick the first goal. Kick the last goal. Kick more goals than Freo in between. I'd like to see that!

Go Hawks!

16:40? Bleah
 

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How as Ceglar been in poor form, do people stick to their copy and paste ideas with zero regard to actually events?
Not sure if serious.

Ceglar is coming off a 0 kick and 0 mark game. He had 7 hand balls for a whole entire game.

That is plain rubbish for a ruckman that had the benefit of being the chop out provider to Big Boy, as they tried to work over a lone ruckman for the entire game.
 

Judd2Sewell

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Structurally he's been important for the team, but on an individual level, last week he was insipid. No influence on the contest whatsoever, particularly in the forward line where he is meant to take contested marks. The stats from last week back that up.

Looking even longer term, one of the main reasons McEvoy is back as ruck is because Ceglar as sole ruck failed to live up to the expectations placed on him. I'd say he has plenty to answer for.

If you're going to counter an argument saying my take is just flavour of the month, back it up with an argument instead of nonsense comebacks :)
0 kicks, and more telling is the 0 marks. That should be worthy of being instantly dropped without question.

Two decent at best games prior do not excuse that kind of performance.
 

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TOB's inclusion pretty much confirms we'll play with a sole recognised ruckman. Given the atrocious (forecasted) conditions this could be one of those games in which one piece of individual brilliance decides the outcome.
You'd think Wingard, Breust and possibly Brockman are the likely protagonists in that scenario...
 
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