Autopsy Round 4, 2025: Positives and Negatives vs GWS

[squashface]

Ok, I've had it up to here with all these people bashing Brock.

Just lay off, okay?

What about Grunston?

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Ok, I've had it up to here with all these people bashing Brock.

Just lay off, okay?

All of you.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Mate the job is obviously way too big for McQualter. Playing Oscar Allen as a tagger on Sam Taylor FFS. Sumich would never try that rubbish.

Suma, calm down mate.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Mini handles the press very well, but there is far more management behind the scenes. As for tag, giving a bloke averaging one kick a task (not tag) on an elite play generator is fair and helped him show his worth. Oscar could have presented more but he tried I felt.

Did you hear McQualter's comments on this specific issue at the press conference and then commentary about it in radio coverage after the game?

 

[BSD]

Mate the job is obviously way too big for McQualter. Playing Oscar Allen as a tagger on Sam Taylor FFS. Sumich would never try that rubbish.

The club needs to have a serious look at the midfield and stoppages coaches, it was deplorable how easily GWS took the ball out of the centre with virtually no resistance from our midfield.
We would have to have the worst assistant coaches in the AFL. If they all went and had coffees with Mitchell they would be doing us a favour. They could take Webster with them.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

The club needs to have a serious look at the midfield and stoppages coaches, it was deplorable how easily GWS took the ball out of the centre with virtually no resistance from our midfield.
We would have to have the worst assistant coaches in the AFL. If they all went and had coffees with Mitchell they would be doing us a favour. They could take Webster with them.

What about the decision to drop Harry Edwards? Sumich wouldn't have made that nonsensical decision.

 

[Bender_]

 

[fullbull]

He's better than Beau Waters already.

Settle petal. He’s playing bloody well, but Beau was sensational when fit. All Australian defender and the hardest Eagle ever that’s not named Worsfold.

 

[Dark Sharks]

The club needs to have a serious look at the midfield and stoppages coaches, it was deplorable how easily GWS took the ball out of the centre with virtually no resistance from our midfield.
We would have to have the worst assistant coaches in the AFL. If they all went and had coffees with Mitchell they would be doing us a favour. They could take Webster with them.

Not wrong swinging Phallus.

We all lauded the appointment of Jarrad Schofield, myself included, thinking he'd come in with his hard ass ways, turning Ports midfield into a good one and coming off all those subi flags... But holistically him as midfield coach really has produced sweet FA for us thus far. Both surprising and unfortunate.

Players have gone backwards, team doesn't even rock up on GameDay sometimes, totally blown off the park and it all starts around the stoppages. Sets the tone.

Don't even get me started on Shuey. Gee bloody whiz. Loved him as a player, didn't like him as captain, staunchly disagreed when we boiz clubbed him straight from retirement into a coaching role on the back of the worst tenure a west coast captain has ever produced, and that hasn't changed.

How Giants can bag 3 consecutive goals from 3 stoppage wins without us even getting a single solitary disposal in 4 minutes or whatever is pretty damning stuff. I get we had young players and a non AFL standard ruckman in there, but hooley dooley, that screams structure to me, not personnel.

Hope Worsfold is asking them WTAF.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Settle petal. He’s playing bloody well, but Beau was sensational when fit. All Australian defender and the hardest Eagle ever that’s not named Worsfold.

He had 2 or 3 good seasons. In a flag side. As soon as he played in a side who couldn't play, he was exposed as a spud. Hard as nails, but limited as a player.

 

[Bender_]

He had 2 or 3 good seasons. In a flag side. As soon as he played in a side who couldn't play, he was exposed as a spud. Hard as nails, but limited as a player.

He was All Australian in 2012 where we finished 5th. Not sure "spud" is the correct terminology here.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

He was All Australian in 2012 where we finished 5th. Not sure "spud" is the correct terminology here.

Spuds can win Brownlows. Seen it with me own eyes.

 

[Astro7]

We tried hard but ultimately still lost by 81. GWS had 32 shots for goal and it felt like they kicked all their goals in a hurry.

17 min mark of Q1 to 6 min mark of Q2: 7 goals. 3QT siren to 19 min mark of Q4: 7 goals. So that's about 35 min or so of game time for 14 of 20 goals. From the 6 min mark of Q2 to 3QT the margin didn't change which is a positive but for the fact we had already given up a 50 point lead.

Interesting to see some heat on Duggan which I think is fair enough. His lack of chase on Jones in the first two minutes was highlighted last night but also at one point Allen made a lead up the ground which Duggan ignored then he kicked on his head when it was a 3 on 1. You could see Oscar was fuming. Everyone likes Duggo but for a captain he is comfortably the worst player in the comp. Thought Oscar tried hard but despite inside 50s being relatively even our forwards didn't get much good supply.

Don't hate Harley Reid playing at half back but he needs to be running off back, not getting lost inside defensive 50. A few times he got the chance to run off half back and create he looked good. A couple of one-two handballs he had through the middle you can see how much better he is than the rest of our mids. Handballs were sharp and direct to teammates, and he doesn't panic and will brace for contact or release the ball at just the right moment.

The debutants all showed a bit. Liked Gross taking the game on and getting caught HTB about 60 out from goal. He is a first gamer not adjusted to the pace of AFL footy but still trying to create. Then later on said **** I'll do it myself and banged a long goal. Other players in our team would just panic and hack a 30m kick forward for another turnover.

Hopefully the whole team watches the tape and focuses on what GWS do. Ball movement is elite and 10-12 players are in on the 'tsunami'. It's only really the key posts that stay home. They score a bazillion points from turnover but also recognise the importance of not turning the ball over with skill errors and getting back to defence when they don't have the ball.

Yep, Duggan's never been more than a B player. It always baffles me how after 10 years of preseasons, twice weekly training, and 183 games, he hasn't improved with basic skills and footy IQ. He's got the right mettle for captain, just an ordinary player.

Harley looked good in patches coming off the back line, still new at it, but would like to see more of it, just to settle him in. Can still alternate in midfield. The big positive was he didn't get in scuffles, didn't get distracted and played team footy. He's taken a step forward.
Gross looks like a play maker. Has that spark, skill and nous. Need to get more game time into him. Hall doesn't offer as much, blue collar extractor, but should offer more than Duggan, in the long run?
We need speed in the midfield...the Suns and the Giants obviously ran rings around us.
Thought we were going for speed in 2024 draft/trade, not so much in the midfield?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

People who bring up the minute long deer in the headlights freeze from Sumich always ignore this far superior Fox Footy clip from 2021.

Decent analysis of how we could navigate Geelong’s midfield, look closely and see if you can find where it happens to go slightly awry.

 

[Astro7]

a bitter village idiot, seriously the job is too big for him. It's not a junior development role.

I wonder how he would've coped during the covid times and two years of terrible injury lists, and the eternal rebuild? (presuming he was there that long)

 

[Cuzz09]

What about Grunston?

Deserves better

 

[Cuzz09]

I'm annoyed at every news clip showing highlights not one (that I saw) mentioned our 3 debutants or the fact we were undermanned.

all they said were "Giants thrash Eagles!" etc

 

[WCEswift]

Theres a lot of "ah theyre so shit" not a lot of this is how you can fix xyz

 

[Proeagle]

I was shocked to read a story today where it bagged Duggan for a shit performance on Jones. Shocked because Duggan seems immune to criticism from the media.

If Duggan, Cole and Kelly put in the same pathetic performance next week against Carton, they should be out of the team. Bring in 3 kids and I dont care if we lose by more but at least the kids offer a future.
Personally they shouldnt play against Carlton.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

People who bring up the minute long deer in the headlights freeze from Sumich always ignore this far superior Fox Footy clip from 2021.

Decent analysis of how we could navigate Geelong’s midfield, look closely and see if you can find where it happens to go slightly awry.

Main graphic says 'heading into Round 17' for some strange reason.

 

[fullbull]

He had 2 or 3 good seasons. In a flag side. As soon as he played in a side who couldn't play, he was exposed as a spud. Hard as nails, but limited as a player.

He was a kid in the flag side. Guess your memory is deserting you a bit. He had flaws, no doubt about it, his kicking was very average. But a lot of great players have had similar issues. He came back from countless injuries to make AA in a 2012 team that lost in the semi finals. Was as tough as they come, never took a backward step, and was one of the greatest on-field leaders we’ve ever had.

I’m not suggesting he’s a top 5, 10, even 20 player all time for us, but to suggest Ginbey is already better than him is plain disrespectful.

 

[DorothyG]

Look at this guy, making his own gifs! not just re shit posting all the popular gifs on the web.

 

[Wild Kelly]

. Even on Sunday during the half-time break he was talking about how Suma should go down to the Eagles to sort things out then had a little chortle about how that won't be happening.

They're out of touch but still love taking pot shots and believe what they say in their own little world.

Yes, I heard that also but thought it was Sumich's mate Jako who said that.
Not that it matters, both are dickheads although Jako probably would have been a much more worthy Brownlow Medallist.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Main graphic says 'heading into Round 17' for some strange reason.

At the very least that proves you’re not Suma, because there’s no way he could count that high.

 

[Goroyals22]