Autopsy Round 4 = Collingwood 60-90 GWS

[Chilli Con Incarnate]

The pity is we are actually in a really good position to rebuild a little.

We could have lots of kids with established players still. There'd be losses for sure, but not embarrassing ones. With Pendles, Adams, Grundy, Sidey, Howe, Moore, Crisp, Mihochek, De Goey, and Maynard - playing kids around them would actually be a really good learning year... pity is even those dependable old players look horribly out of form too.

 

[loki04]

Last time Greene destroyed Maynard.

Greene has destroyed many players and teams, not sure why its surprises people he is a genuine elite player superstar. If he played for pies he'd be talked up as the 2nd coming.

 

[Hazz]

A terrible but not unexpected outcome. Leon Cameron must have thought thank fu** we are playing Collingwood this week. I know exactly what they are going to do. This was probably the worst GWS side we have played in four or five years and we were nothing short of pathetic. Zac Williams has left, Cameron has left, No Whitfield, No Davis, No Coniglio, Preuss, De Boer etc. We are a joke at the moment.

Our goals very rarely are from any system of play. It’s often just individual brilliance.

I don‘t know who is responsible from pre match planning and match ups and tactics throughout the game but IQ on Greene was never going to be a good match up.

We play slow, unskilled, boring football.

We will just have to ride this season out. It’s a write off. Hopefully two or three kids get blooded and develop. We get a new coach next season, finally recruit some proper tall forwards and develop a better game style.

I did not see a player running past the mark for a handball receive all night. We also went back and slowly kicked over the mark without fail.

It cannot be by chance that this slow play just “happened”, it had to be a coaching theme.

Have our coaches not been watching other games and seeing how the man on the mark rule is being exploited by other teams with fast play on football?

Ridiculously slow play on F50 entries - we mark on the flank, Coxy has a 1v1 in the square, we (Sidebottom) wait, assess other options for 5 seconds, then bomb it to Cox with an extra now right on him... Farking madness.

And the less said about squib Grundy the better. So fragile and gave nothing again when needed the most.

Happy with Beau’s effort, bring on the rest of the recruits, this season is done!

 

[CasuallyDressed]

So what? We can start preparing for the future now rather than sweat out an inevitable 11th place finish

The point of "tanking" is for better picks... we gave ours up. We might aswell try and win as many games as we can.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Clarkson is bringing in Monkhurst when we play hawthorn.

To play?

 

[loki04]

Things are never as good or as bad as they seem at the time but now is the time to look to a rejuvenating future.

Ratten threw out that cliche last week after a bad loss and now you are the 4th poster to use it in the thread.

 

[stormskye]

The point of "tanking" is for better picks... we gave ours up. We might aswell try and win as many games as we can.

We can tank for mid season draft

 

[stormskye]

To play?

Of course, to play against Grundy. An old retired player on 80k beat him, so Monky will to

 

[Hazz]

He doesn't direct his taps well or mix it up enough that where his part comes in, having a poor midfield or strategy is the other part.

Last night though he often looked a fumbly scared giant around mummy.
Grundy has lost his hard edge of his youth they over neutered him.

Give one of the mids a little wink beforehand as a heads up, then give it a big bash forward or to 10 or 2 for once just to mix it up and potentially give us a clean take away. But nah, win a ton of taps to nobody and point to the nothing stats to justify your club crippling salary.

 

[sr36]

Better second round pick? Or did we burn that too? I was nervous when we shopped out our first rounder because pick 1 is still possible. And that’s no longer ours even if we get it.

We burnt a second round pick unnecessarily, but we still have one.

 

[loki04]

In reality should never have been on him. If Bucks wants to inject some run and carry into the midfield I would have thought Quaynor was a better option than Magden. Was a very odd match up and turned out to be a very bad one.

Greens kicked 5 before on Maynard too.

At the start Quaynor was hurting green the other way, not a horrible lesson for Quaynor to learn from about paying more respect to your elite opponent.

As I said should of been moved at half time, and yes a midfield or wing role would be great or attacking running half back role.

 

[loki04]

The point of "tanking" is for better picks... we gave ours up. We might aswell try and win as many games as we can.

Yes but with an eye to the future as well wouldn't hurt to see what the list has to offer moving fwd, hell we aren't winning as it is.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

I’m glad we lost. At least now Bucks will definitely leave at the end of this year or earlier.

If it takes a few smackings with players like Mayne, Madgen, Brown, WHE & JT in the team for us to get a new coach, I’ll deal with it.

Short term pain for long term gain.

Bucks can piss off.

 

[YouBeauty]

It's amazing how many players GWS were missing and they still belted us. I think we would struggle against their seconds. Reminded me of that prelim with them missing so much quality.

We need to offload Grundy and his salary somehow and invest into decent midfielders/forwards.

 

[loki04]

We burnt a second round pick unnecessarily, but we still have one.

Yup but it might as well not exist will use it and a few of the 3rds on ND then if Dib falls out the first round will get him with the left overs.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

I thought Noble was exposed last night. He had been playing well until last night, but was not often sighted and during his short stint on Greene he looked like a schoolboy trying to quell him. His lack of size and presence was on show. Not sure whether to take this game as a serious rating of his worth, yet it highlighted some of the doubts that exist on the worth of his overall game.

 

[sr36]

I thought Noble was exposed last night. He had been playing well until last night, but was not often sighted and during his short stint on Greene he looked like a schoolboy trying to quell him. His lack of size and presence was on show last night. Not sure whether to take this game as a serious rating of his worth, yet it highlighted some of the doubts that exist on the worth of his overall game.

He's one of the few who can seriously run, so we need him for now.

 

[sr36]

Yup but it might as well not exist will use it and a few of the 3rds on ND then if Dib falls out the first round will get him with the left overs.

It exists for points. By the sounds of it, we're going to need a heap of points.

 

[mike123]

Last time Greene destroyed Maynard.

And the two times before that Maynard destroyed Greene.

 

[pietoon]

I did not see a player running past the mark for a handball receive all night. We also went back and slowly kicked over the mark without fail.

It cannot be by chance that this slow play just “happened”, it had to be a coaching theme.

Have our coaches not been watching other games and seeing how the man on the mark rule is being exploited by other teams with fast play on football?

Ridiculously slow play on F50 entries - we mark on the flank, Coxy has a 1v1 in the square, we (Sidebottom) wait, assess other options for 5 seconds, then bomb it to Cox with an extra now right on him... Farking madness.

And the less said about squib Grundy the better. So fragile and gave nothing again when needed the most.

Happy with Beau’s effort, bring on the rest of the recruits, this season is done!

Grundy is no squib,he is out there playing one of the most physically demanding sports there is,where as you are sitting behind a keyboard spanking the monkey.
I know which one out of the 2 takes courage and it’s not you

 

[JLC]

I did not see a player running past the mark for a handball receive all night. We also went back and slowly kicked over the mark without fail.

It cannot be by chance that this slow play just “happened”, it had to be a coaching theme.

Have our coaches not been watching other games and seeing how the man on the mark rule is being exploited by other teams with fast play on football?

Ridiculously slow play on F50 entries - we mark on the flank, Coxy has a 1v1 in the square, we (Sidebottom) wait, assess other options for 5 seconds, then bomb it to Cox with an extra now right on him... Farking madness.

And the less said about squib Grundy the better. So fragile and gave nothing again when needed the most.

Happy with Beau’s effort, bring on the rest of the recruits, this season is done!

We are the slowest and most stubborn club.

It is like our coaches have zero foresight.....they almost assess the rule changes and game style as the season progresses and then may finally change......but by then the season is over. In the meantime we persist with this defence first mantra nonsense.

There needs to be a message at board level saying Nathan, we want our club to play an attractive brand of football that our fans want to watch. They want to see goals.

Graham Wright will move Grundy and that bullshit contract on at year end.

 

[slugger01]

We burnt a second round pick unnecessarily, but we still have one.

Do we have ours (which would be around pick 20) or someone else’s (ports/swans/tigers/lions) which will be around pick 38. The values are considerably different.

 

[sr36]

Do we have ours (which would be around pick 20) or someone else’s (ports/swans/tigers/lions) which will be around pick 38. The values are considerably different.

I think we have ours - possibly Dogs.

 

[Doc1763]

Not sure what’s worse, thinking we’re not in a hole, or thinking we can turn it around.
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The club is delusional

 

[stormskye]

Do we have ours (which would be around pick 20) or someone else’s (ports/swans/tigers/lions) which will be around pick 38. The values are considerably different.

We traded our first to GWS for two late picks... and our second is tied to dogs who will finish top 4. Another masterstoke