AFLW Round 4 Discussion - 2020 AFLW season

Teen Wolf

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Ahright ahright ahright. Some tantalising tests this weekend between evenly-matched teams cooperatively pursuing the perfect blend of skill, fitness and tactics. Especially for 6 of the original 8 clubs. It's not now-or-never for the winless expando teams to get on the board, but they'll sure be playing like it is. And the locations for these games? Oh, the locations!

C'wood (2-1) v Melbourne (2-1)
Fri 28 Feb, 5.40pm AEDT
Marvel Stadium, Docklands VIC
No FTA TV Coverage*
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Richmond (0-3) v Geelong (0-3)
Sat 29 Feb, 3.10pm AEDT
Queen Elizabeth Oval, Bendigo VIC
7 (Perth) and 7mate (Melb, Syd, Bris)

Nth Melb. (2-1) v Gold Coast (1-1-1)
Sat 29 Feb, 5.10pm AEDT
Arden Street Oval, North Melbourne VIC
7mate (Bris)

West Coast (0-3) v W. Bulldogs (1-2)
Sat 29 Feb, 4.10pm AEDT
Leederville Oval, WA
7 (Perth) and 7mate (Melb, Adel)

Adelaide (2-1) v Carlton (2-1)
Sun 1 Mar, 12.40pm ACDT
Hisense Stadium, Richmond SA
7 (Adel)

St Kilda (1-2) v Fremantle (3-0)
Sun 1 Mar, 3.10pm AEDT
RSEA Park, Moorabbin VIC
7 (Melb, Perth, Adel) and 7mate (Syd)

Brisbane (2-0-1) v GWS Giants (2-1)
Sun 1 Mar, 4.10pm AEST
Hickey Park, Stafford QLD
7mate (Bris, Syd)

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*All games are broadcast live on Foxtel and Kayo, and free to stream via the AFLW app, the AFL app, the AFLW website, the AFL website and the Telstra TV AFLW app.
 
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PurpleThunder

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Will be heading to Leederville Oval to watch. Hoping Dana gets up for the game.
It'll be interesting to see what sort of crowd you get there. Hopefully they get a crowd, but I wouldn't be shocked if the West Coast faithful have already abandoned the AFLW.
 

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It'll be interesting to see what sort of crowd you get there. Hopefully they get a crowd, but I wouldn't be shocked if the West Coast faithful have already abandoned the AFLW.
Wish I could argue. Supporters love the success for sure. Hopefully we get a decent showing
 

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Not that the AFLW website seems to care. 6.30pm on a Thursday and nothing about team selection there yet.

Info below from club websites

Coll In: K. Lynch; Out: K. Stratton
Melb In: L. Pearce, J. Parry; Out: Guerin (knee), S. Heath (illness)

Rich In: H. Whitford; Out: L. Tesoriero (general soreness)
Geel In: K. Darby, A. Teague; Out: M. Boyd, R. Caris

NM In: M. King, D. Hardiman; Out: A. Green, B. Lynch
GC no changes

WC In: C. Davidson, E. McGuire; Out: T. Tester (foot), K. Orme
WB Out: A. Gogos (knee), D. Berry (concussion), B. Lochland (quad)

Adel In: E. Phillips, R. Metcalfe, A. Considine; Out: C. Cramey (calf)
Carl In: C. Wilson, C. Jones

StK In: C. Fitzpatrick, P. Kelly, S. Johnson; Out: J. Sedunary
Frem In: M. Clifford, E. O'Driscoll

Bris In: J. Wuetschner, T. Hickie
GWS In: S. Halvorsen, T. Mackrill
 

Biggie

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Friday, February 28
Collingwood v Melbourne, Marvel Stadium, 5.35pm AEDT

COLLINGWOOD

B:
A.Porter 9 S.Livingstone 12
HB: L.Butler 23 S.D'Arcy 4 R.Schleicher 18
C: S.Rowe 7 M.Cann 25 S.Chiocci - C 17
HF: S.Dargan 46 A.Brazill 10 B.Davey 3
F: S.Layton 1 C.Molloy 2
Foll: E.Fowler 15 B.Bonnici 8 J.Allen 6
I/C: A.Sheridan 14 J.Lambert 13 S.Casey 22 J.Membrey 21 K.Lynch 16

Emerg: E.Hynes 11 K.Stratton 41

In: K.Lynch
Out: K.Stratton

MELBOURNE

B:
L.Birch 9 M.Downie 2
HB: S.Lampard 8 S.Goldrick 23 D.Pearce - C 6
C: C.Sherriff 18 E.O'Dea 5 C.Emonson 11
HF: K.Hore 10 T.Cunningham 1 S.Scott 12
F: E.Zanker 29 T.Hanks 28
Foll: H.Cordner 21 K.Paxman 4 M.Gay 3
I/C: G.Colvin 32 J.Parry 19 N.McEvoy 17 L.Pearce 15 A.Newman 16

Emerg: K.Petrevski 31 B.Tarrant 20

In: J.Parry, L.Pearce
Out: S.Heath (Illness), M.Guerin (injured)

Saturday, February 29
Richmond v Geelong, Queen Elizabeth Oval, 3.10pm AEDT

RICHMOND

B:
S.Sansonetti 18 G.Seymour 28
HB: R.Miller 15 P.Monahan 2 H.Whitford 20
C: H.Burchell 9 K.Brennan - C 3 S.Molan 1
HF: M.Brancatisano 5 L.McClelland 16 C.Bernardi 6
F: C.Wakefield 8 S.Frederick 14
Foll: A.Edmonds 11 M.Conti 4 K.Jacques 10
I/C: A.Makur Chuot 34 G.Campbell 43 E.Wood 17 A.Woodward 13 L.Bailey 12

Emerg: C.Fitzgerald 26 L.Lesosky-Hay 23

In: H.Whitford
Out: L.Tesoriero (injured)

GEELONG

B:
M.Brown 19 M.McMahon 24
HB: M.Keryk 45 M.McDonald 11 M.Hickey - C 18
C: S.Van De Heuvel 27 R.Webster 21 N.Morrison 9
HF: D.Higgins 2 P.McWilliams 23 J.Ivey 5
F: R.Cranston 30 R.Garing 12
Foll: A.O'Connor 14 J.Crockett-Grills 6 O.Purcell 16
I/C: R.Goring 44 A.McDonald 3 K.Darby 8 A.Teague 40 G.Clarke 17

Emerg: G.Rankin 10 C.Blakeway 4

In: K.Darby, A.Teague
Out: M.Boyd, R.Caris

North Melbourne v Gold Coast, Arden Street Oval, 5.10pm AEDT

NORTH MELBOURNE

B:
T.Randall 16 B.Gibson 18
HB: J.Grierson 19 D.Hardiman 31 A.Gilroy 8
C: J.Trend 21 J.Garner 25 A.Riddell 7
HF: S.Abbatangelo 1 K.Gillespie-Jones 5 K.Ashmore 10
F: E.King 60 E.King 4
Foll: V.Saad 39 E.Kearney - C 9 J.Bruton 35
I/C: D.Bateman 11 S.Wright 17 E.Gavalas 22 M.King 23 T.Nestor 24

Emerg: E.Humphries 6 B.Lynch 20

In: D.Hardiman, M.King
Out: B.Lynch, A.Green

GOLD COAST

B:
J.Pregelj 42 J.Hickey 4
HB: S.Virgo 22 L.Ahrens 7 S.Watson 14
C: T.Ernst 19 H.Dunn 24 C.Hammond 29
HF: E.Hampson 21 J.Hewett 20 P.Parker 1
F: K.Howarth 23 K.Surman 26
Foll: L.Bella 2 L.Kaslar - C 11 J.Stanton 17
I/C: D.Heslop 25 B.Perry 16 M.Ritson 12 T.Thorn 15 J.Yorston 5

Emerg: T.Groves-Little 3 A.Hamilton 30

In: None
Out: None

West Coast v Western Bulldogs, Leederville Oval, 4.10pm AWST

WEST COAST

B:
B.Smith 14 T.Radan 26
HB: C.Perera 27 S.McDonald 35 C.Davidson 33
C: M.Bowen 1 I.Cameron 19 N.Kelly 12
HF: K.Gibson 2 G.Kelly 15 M.Collier 8
F: A.Atkins 9 E.McGuire 31
Foll: P.Laurie 25 D.Hooker 17 E.Swanson - C 13
I/C: M.Dowrick 5 B.Devlyn 7 H.Bullas 24 E.Bonser 6 C.Guard 4

Emerg: K.Orme 32 K.Bartlett 20

In: C.Davidson, E.McGuire
Out: T.Tester (injured), K.Orme

WESTERN BULLDOGS

B:
E.Gamble 14 L.Spark 11
HB: K.Herron 31 I.Huntington 4 N.Ferres 16
C: B.Hunt 21 K.Lamb 27 G.Lagioia 12
HF: G.Newton 5 B.Toogood 8 K.McLeod 6
F: D.Marshall 26 E.Georgostathis 17
Foll: K.Rennie 24 E.Blackburn - C 2 A.McCarthy 15
I/C: E.Brown 9 A.Guest 19 H.Munyard 20 H.Scott 22 B.Gutknecht 18

Emerg: N.Callinan 10 A.Van Oosterwijck 28

In: A.Guest, H.Munyard, B.Gutknecht
Out: D.Berry (concussion), A.Gogos (knee), B.Lochland (quad)

Sunday, March 1
Adelaide v Carlton, Hisense Stadium, 12.40pm ACDT

ADELAIDE

B:
D.Cox 31 M.Rajcic 32
HB: J.Mules 23 S.Allan 39 N.Allen 8
C: A.Foley 3 E.Marinoff 10 A.Considine 16
HF: S.Thompson 14 E.Phillips - C 13 E.Jones 2
F: D.Ponter 15 C.Biddell 12
Foll: J.Foley 24 A.Hatchard 33 C.Gum 5
I/C: R.Forth 27 S.Li 19 N.Gore 7 N.Campbell 20 R.Metcalfe 11 C.Gould 1 M.Newman 17

In: A.Considine, E.Phillips, R.Metcalfe
Out: C.Cramey (injured)

CARLTON

B:
G.Pound 6 B.Vernon 31
HB: K.Harrington - C 9 V.Laloifi 8 N.Stevens 21
C: C.Dalton 15 G.Gee 19 S.Hosking 10
HF: J.Edwards 25 T.Harris 7 N.Plane 32
F: L.McEvoy 13 D.Vescio 3
Foll: B.Moody 16 G.Egan 1 M.Prespakis 4
I/C: J.Hosking 11 A.Downie 30 K.Loynes 2 L.Brazzale 12 B.Walker 14 C.Wilson 20 C.Jones 22

In: C.Wilson, C.Jones
Out: None

St Kilda v Fremantle, RSEA Park, 3.10pm AEDT

ST KILDA

B:
T.White 29 T.Luke 22
HB: H.Priest 14 A.Brown 2 T.Lucas-Rodd 18
C: N.Exon 15 R.Dillon 25 M.McDonald 1
HF: C.Munn 13 K.McCarthy 9 C.Greiser 17
F: K.Shierlaw 12 G.Patrikios 21
Foll: R.Watt - C 7 A.Drennan 8 C.Phillips 35
I/C: D.Guttridge 5 C.Fitzpatrick 24 O.Vesely 23 N.Xenos 27 I.Shannon 11 S.Johnson 6 P.Kelly 16

In: C.Fitzpatrick, S.Johnson, P.Kelly
Out: J.Sedunary (injured)

FREMANTLE

B:
J.Cuthbertson 29 L.Mascall 14
HB: A.Stannett 24 P.Seth 18 L.Pugh 32
C: K.Grieve 13 H.Miller 19 B.Webb 26
HF: E.Antonio 12 R.Roux 17 A.Sharp 1
F: G.Houghton 27 S.Duffy 6
Foll: M.Strom 21 K.Bowers 2 K.Antonio - C 15
I/C: K.Flood 44 J.Stewart 7 E.Gooch 8 L.Rohde 11 G.O'Sullivan 22 E.O'Driscoll 3 M.Clifford 4

In: E.O'Driscoll, M.Clifford
Out: None

Brisbane v Greater Western Sydney, Hickey Park, 4.10pm AEST

BRISBANE

B:
C.Svarc 25 S.Webb 4
HB: R.Lugg 11 K.Lutkins 13 S.Campbell 20
C: N.Grider 10 B.Koenen 3 S.Conway 12
HF: L.Arnell 16 J.Wardlaw 30 G.Bodey 15
F: D.Davidson 14 E.Zielke - C 8
Foll: J.Keeffe 27 A.Anderson 18 E.Bates 1
I/C: I.Dawes 17 O.O'Dwyer 9 L.Postlethwaite 6 J.Wuetschner 23 M.Moloney 28 G.Collingwood 7 T.Hickie 24

In: J.Wuetschner, T.Hickie
Out: None

GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

B:
P.Randall 21 T.Hetherington 9
HB: J.Dal Pos 7 E.Bennetts 22 A.Lister 14
C: Y.Bonner 27 A.Eva - C 2 N.Barr 8
HF: H.Zreika 24 C.Staunton 13 J.Hicks 5
F: I.Nielsen 25 R.Privitelli 19
Foll: J.Allan 39 A.Parker 3 R.Beeson 6
I/C: B.Tully 36 L.Steane 20 J.Barclay 34 L.Stephenson 12 A.Schmidt 11 T.Mackrill 32 S.Halvorsen 30

In: T.Mackrill, S.Halvorsen
Out: None
 

Teen Wolf

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My tip for today

Pies-Dees: Having earned a reputation for losing ones they shouldn't, Melbourne's history in matches following those losses is pretty good. Not perfect, though. The one time they've dropped a second game on the trot was a 34-point Alice Springs demolition at the hands of Collingwood in 2018. The 8 goals 20 behinds the Demons have opened the season with is easily their lowest-scoring 3-week stretch to date, and the wind-rain-wind excuse will look shaky if they can't slam through plenty of majors in Docklands' weatherproof stadium. The Magpies are obviously playing better footy currently, with a handball-heavy style that can stand up under pressure. But they don't have enough to show for it yet. 19 scoring shots in the last fortnight, despite dominating the play, is a bigger concern than inaccuracy in front of goal. MEL by 1
 

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The Big EZ wants to wait until the crowd builds before she holds on to a few of those specky attempts, I guess.

Nice start, but Collingwood, you can't just play around with the ball 60m out waiting for the red sea to part. And switching the play is fine (great even!), but do it with some urgency!
 

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Great to see Hanks involved a lot today, not just through her savvy ball use but all the delightful little tap ons and slick gathers. Wayyy overdue for a Rising Star nomination.
 

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My tip for today

Pies-Dees: Having earned a reputation for losing ones they shouldn't, Melbourne's history in matches following those losses is pretty good. Not perfect, though. The one time they've dropped a second game on the trot was a 34-point Alice Springs demolition at the hands of Collingwood in 2018. The 8 goals 20 behinds the Demons have opened the season with is easily their lowest-scoring 3-week stretch to date, and the wind-rain-wind excuse will look shaky if they can't slam through plenty of majors in Docklands' weatherproof stadium. The Magpies are obviously playing better footy currently, with a handball-heavy style that can stand up under pressure. But they don't have enough to show for it yet. 19 scoring shots in the last fortnight, despite dominating the play, is a bigger concern than inaccuracy in front of goal. MEL by 1
Well thankfully you got your tip!

I had no faith, I tipped Collingwood. But that was a much better showing from my Dees. Really good quality games from across the park. Clever to bring another tall in on debut, too, since that is where we have struggled, and I really like what we saw of Parry.

Poor Collingwood got off to a slow start, and were cooked after a brief resurgence once Brazill went. Hope she is OK, didn't look good.

Lambert was excellent, as always, as was Davy. But I'm convinced aliens have kidnapped Layton and replaced her with a robot. She is so good now. Her improvement is out of this world. That is a tough loss for the 'Pies, they are playing good footy but can't afford to drop many more. Their run home is not "easy" but is perhaps a little easier than some other teams near them, so that may help. They deserve to make finals the way they have played.

Very pleased with all "my" Dees. Paxman was a beast. It is astonishing how consistent she is. And I think she interviews well also.

Scott has really lifted this year, and did so again, and it was good to see Cunningham have her best game this season. And Downie, and particularly Birch, were a wall at the back, as usual. Very happy!

Hope the Origin is good, and no major injuries.
 

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Great to see Hanks involved a lot today, not just through her savvy ball use but all the delightful little tap ons and slick gathers. Wayyy overdue for a Rising Star nomination.
Love what she does, she was IMHO a little under rated last year (after hurting herself before she could debut as our top draft pick the year before, I guess she didn't have any hype for last season), but it is a tough gig coming into our midfield. With Mithen out, it is super important that Hanks churns out that sort of game, and she had done it all season. She has great skills.
 
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Collingwood haven't used Molloy out of the goal square anywhere near enough (if at all?). And she'll probably only be spending more time down back steadying the ship if the Brazill's injury is worst case scenario. Every forward-line needs a Sarah D'Arcy, but not as the focal point where she's required to win the miracle contest with the ball popped on top of her head again and again.

Tips for today!

Tigers-Cats: On a ground almost as narrow as Kardinia Park, in a Victorian town only moderately more regional than Geelong, the Cats may well feel at home—just like the past two weeks, which hasn't counted for much unlike '19. One of these winless teams needs the 4 points and it doesn't matter how ugly they play to get them, the other just needs to show an ability to kick 5-6 goals and avoid dumb mistakes such as leaving Olivia Purcell alone at a forward 50 stoppage. There's a decent chance neither ends up happening. GEE by 12

Roos-Suns: No more than two teams can truly surprise me this weekend. The intriguing part about that is they (Gold Coast and St Kilda, I speak of) have already surprised me twice this season. If it happens a third time, consider my lesson learned. The Suns should be able to make this a highly attacking match-up with their quick transitional style, unless they get cold feet about getting burnt on the rebound. NM by 50*

Eagles-Dogs: I like simple solutions for simple problems. West Coast's forward-line is struggling, so they bring in their most talented goal-kicker and name her at full-forward. It's a very winnable game for the Eagles, their first one in fact, made even more so by the Bulldogs' list of experienced outs including Poor Little Gogos (for what will probably be the rest of the season), Deanna Berry and Brooke Lochland. And yet Nicole Callinan, the smoothie produced when those three injured premiership players are put in a blender together, still can't get a game? That feels like Nathan Burke is overlooking simple solutions. I guess he knows what he's doing… but a loss here would prompt a second guess. WB by 18

*I'm now calling this the Fifty-Point Kiss-Of-Death Tip** (previous FPKODT results: GWS won by 1, ADE won by 13, MEL lost by 5)

**until I come up with a better name
 

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The only thing worse than Richmond is the Umpiring, there were a couple of 50m penalties that were extremely harsh.

Picturesque oval in Bendigo with an elegant old main stand.
Geelong running away with it that quarter.

I felt some of the calls were a bit unlucky too, and the 50 m penalty seems extra harsh in the AFLW, if nothing else than because "free" goals are worth that much more when time is shorter and goals are at a premium.

But Richmond will have to learn a bit more discipline (much like my team, who keep giving away goals to 50 m penalties) as the umpires are not shy of awarding them for slight infringements, even though they have a big impact.

Oval is indeed lovely.

I say it every week, but I love watching Cranston play. Good to see McWilliams get a bit more involved, she has not had the season Geelong needs so far.

Conti and Wakefield fighting hard for Richmond, they need a few more to lift.
 

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That was a much better quarter from Richmond, Geelong looked to be running away with after kicking the first two goals but they fought back well and looked the better team for the last 10 minutes.
The bump on Katie Brennan didn’t look good, hope she will be okay.
 

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Richmond blown away in a poor 20 minutes (much like last week) but otherwise were quite good. A steep learning curve for the newbies, but they haven't been terrible.

Lots of points, was an entertaining match. Conti brilliant from start to finish. Geelong finally found ways to score that didn't involve Purcell. Many contributions up front, which is a good sign for them.

Expecting the newbies in the next one to struggle too, but not through want of trying, or running. Hard to see the Suns winning, I think they'll be doing well to be in touch at three quarter time. They have had a good season for a new team and show some promise.

But North should have too much star power across the park. They are an impressive line up.
 

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Great game so far. North probably had the most opportunity this quarter, but a poor defensive error at the end there gives the Suns a lead, and they have been running their boots off.

North look a bit more efficient in their disposals, but Suns are competing in every contest and often have a loose player, just through hard work. Plenty to admire about this Suns outfit.
 

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