Strategy Round 5 Changes vs Richmond Tigers

[FreoRicci]

What's the chances they fly Reidy as well even if Darcy is on the plane?

Probably will take a 26group.

Aish, Dudley get a chance to go back to SA.

Reidy has to be emergency if Darcy doesn’t get up.

 

[kp junior]

Yes, 100%. Reid is already in the B23 so no one is displacing him unless he wears down.

There are few spots up for debate really. Dudley, while he has been great, I don't think he is absolutely in the B23. The way Walters was playing in the pre-season I think Walters would be picked ahead of Dudley. I'm hoping Walters can find that form again and play an important role this season.

B23 excluding Walker has probably shifted to:

B: Ryan, Pearce, Draper
HB: Clark, Cox, Wagner/Simpson
C: NOD/JOM, Brayshaw, Sharp (?)
HF: Frederick, Amiss, Reid
F: Jackson, Treacy, Bolton

Fol: Darcy, Serong, Young
Interchange: Chapman, Johnson, Switkowski, Walters/Dudley
Sub: One of NOD/JOM

I think only one of Dudley and Walters can play, same with NOD/JOM now with Young back, same with Wagner and Simpson in a few weeks time as Simpson settles into the HB roll.

With a fully fit team (probably never going to happen), the selection squeeze is ridiculous.

Peel could have a line up of: Fyfe, NOD, Walters, Banfield, Worner, Erasmus, Brodie, McDonald, Voss, Reidy, Narkle, Aish, Sturt, Murphy for example.

Touchwood we get to see this happen soon.

That forward line is a rip snorter

 

[malpaso]

Yes, 100%. Reid is already in the B23 so no one is displacing him unless he wears down.

There are few spots up for debate really. Dudley, while he has been great, I don't think he is absolutely in the B23. The way Walters was playing in the pre-season I think Walters would be picked ahead of Dudley. I'm hoping Walters can find that form again and play an important role this season.

B23 excluding Walker has probably shifted to:

B: Ryan, Pearce, Draper
HB: Clark, Cox, Wagner/Simpson
C: NOD/JOM, Brayshaw, Sharp (?)
HF: Frederick, Amiss, Reid
F: Jackson, Treacy, Bolton

Fol: Darcy, Serong, Young
Interchange: Chapman, Johnson, Switkowski, Walters/Dudley
Sub: One of NOD/JOM

I think only one of Dudley and Walters can play, same with NOD/JOM now with Young back, same with Wagner and Simpson in a few weeks time as Simpson settles into the HB roll.

With a fully fit team (probably never going to happen), the selection squeeze is ridiculous.

Peel could have a line up of: Fyfe, NOD, Walters, Banfield, Worner, Erasmus, Brodie, McDonald, Voss, Reidy, Narkle, Aish, Sturt, Murphy for example.

Touchwood we get to see this happen soon.

NOD is best 23 if fit. He's the other winger, nothing to do with Young playing or not.

 

[s_wd6]

OMac and Reidy stayed home. Dudley and Aish on the flight

 

[David Bubb]

Reidy and McDonald the two from the 26 man squad not on the flight

 

[Paracleet]

I mean if they won't at least take Reidy on the plane in these circumstances (only fit ruck underdone) surely that's it for him.

 

[Alfonz]

It's relevant to what you said having midfield stats skew the ranking of forwards that go into the midfield. You said it.

Yes, I said it. Cause it is true. Rankine will be rated much higher amongst the forwards because of his midfield stats. Same with guys like Dylan Moore and Brent Daniels. Those guys were amongst the top rated forwards (non KPP) last year by Champion Data. They had Jack Macrae as a forward at the end of 2024. If they haven't changed his position, he's going to currently be close to the #1 forward in the competition.

But what I didn't say was that means these players are no good. Which you were implying was my train of thought. I never said that about anyone (including Switta). I was referring specifically to Switkowski as an example of how these Champion Data elite labels can be flawed/skewed. Flanders being rated last year as an elite defender is another one. Again, a good player, but he's not an elite player.

Switta was ranked by Champion Data (at the end of 2024) as a better forward than Papley, Pickett, Stengle, Cameron. How do you explain this? Do you think he is actually better than those players?

 

[freodog]

I mean if they won't at least take Reidy on the plane in these circumstances (only fit ruck underdone) surely that's it for him.

If it doesn't work, he'll be on the next flight to Melbourne for the next game

 

[nurries]

Yes, I said it. Cause it is true. Rankine will be rated much higher amongst the forwards because of his midfield stats. Same with guys like Dylan Moore and Brent Daniels. Those guys were amongst the top rated forwards (non KPP) last year by Champion Data. They had Jack Macrae as a forward at the end of 2024. If they haven't changed his position, he's going to currently be close to the #1 forward in the competition.

But what I didn't say was that means these players are no good. Which you were implying was my train of thought. I never said that about anyone (including Switta). I was referring specifically to Switkowski as an example of how these Champion Data elite labels can be flawed/skewed. Flanders being rated last year as an elite defender is another one. Again, a good player, but he's not an elite player.

Switta was ranked by Champion Data (at the end of 2024) as a better forward than Papley, Pickett, Stengle, Cameron. How do you explain this? Do you think he is actually better than those players?

This is true, Heeney was a forward last year and played 80% as a mid.

 

[FreoMatt]

Freddy, Amiss, Bolton, Treacy, Reid, Switta, Voss, Dudley and Banfield...


HF: Bolton Treacy Freddy
F: Dudley Amiss Switta
B: Voss

inside Wing role: Reid

I wonder how Reid would go in the inside mid role that Steele Sidebottom plays for collingwood. He can already run 14+k's, and his skills are elite.

Bolton needs to run through the middle at least 30% of the game. Switta can run through the middle a bit, and Freddy can play on the wing a bit as well which should mean we can play 8 forwards.

We have a few too many mids IMO now that JOM and Young are back in the side - I'm not saying I agree I just can't see Banfields utility (coach loves it) being sacrificed.ost team

We’ve only named 7 mids with Johnson and Sharp in the bench

Still hearing that Reidy and Darcy both playing is a possibility...

Whoever told you that cut off your ITK list as they are wrong

 

[Docker82]

I mean if they won't at least take Reidy on the plane in these circumstances (only fit ruck underdone) surely that's it for him.

Darcy played last week. He's either ready and he plays AFL or he isn't and he plays WAFL.

Doubt any other scenario was ever likely and doubt this means much at all for Reidy.

 

[Paracleet]

Yes, I said it. Cause it is true. Rankine will be rated much higher amongst the forwards because of his midfield stats. Same with guys like Dylan Moore and Brent Daniels. Those guys were amongst the top rated forwards (non KPP) last year by Champion Data. They had Jack Macrae as a forward at the end of 2024. If they haven't changed his position, he's going to currently be close to the #1 forward in the competition.

But what I didn't say was that means these players are no good. Which you were implying was my train of thought. I never said that about anyone (including Switta). I was referring specifically to Switkowski as an example of how these Champion Data elite labels can be flawed/skewed. Flanders being rated last year as an elite defender is another one. Again, a good player, but he's not an elite player.

Switta was ranked by Champion Data (at the end of 2024) as a better forward than Papley, Pickett, Stengle, Cameron. How do you explain this? Do you think he is actually better than those players?

Switta has attended 115 centre bounces in his entire career. In 2024 he attended just 19 of Freo centre bounces. Papley attended 95 and Pickett like 190. They had their numbers inflated by playing midfield. Switta has never really had significant midfield minutes. 2023 is the only season he has had more than 50 cba's.

Really complaining about rankings and who is better is sort of misusing the data a bit. The data clumps all non key forwards together, but clearly in real life they play different roles. High half forwards kick less goals. Miers only kicked 21 goals but was the third highest rated general forward in the comp in 2024. Fair? Unfair?

I'd have Switta as the 4th or 5th best HHF in the comp, trailing Meirs, Moore and Daniels fairly comfortably. If he could kick 20/25 goals a year instead of 10/15 he'd be up with them.

 

[anchor man]

If it doesn't work, he'll be on the next flight to Melbourne for the next game

It will work. Darcy looks super fit.And he will relish the challenge.
As Longmuir said, he is still one of the best ruckmen in the competition.

 

[FreoRicci]

It will work. Darcy looks super fit.And he will relish the challenge.
As Longmuir said, he is still one of the best ruckmen in the competition.

If Jackson was fit, 100% would not be playing.
But it’s Nankervis and he ll be putting his knee up against Voss and Treacy all game. Darcy has to come in, not ideal though.

 

[anchor man]

If Jackson was fit, 100% would not be playing.
But it’s Nankervis and he ll be putting his knee up against Voss and Treacy all game. Darcy has to come in, not ideal though.

Even with Jackson, I feel Darcy would still have payed.Jacko is not good, in my opinion, against the big fellas like Nank.They are too strong for him Darcy is as strong as any of the big fellas.

 

[sumavich]

The wombat is from SA, he was always travelling

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Aish will be travelling emergency, the only real question will be Wombat, Switta or Banners for sub.

 

[s_wd6]

The wombat is from SA, he was always travelling

Could say the same for Aish

 

[Fred Ziffel]

He’s getting dropped mate, at very best he is going to be the sub.

I fear

 

[Lach72]

As we thought all three in.

Duds and Worner etc on the bench

 

[DragoDelph]

Well, he's still in the squad.

 

[thefreodockers]

Aish will be travelling emergency, the only real question will be Wombat, Switta or Banners for sub.

or Worner.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

or Worner.

I just dont see them going that way unless Young is playing back a lot (not the worst way to ease into it). They'll play 7 defenders

 

[TheLastCall]

Darcy on the plane. No Reidy.

Aish and Duds on the plane also.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

He can't kick further than 10 meters

Nah ten he’s fine but twenty ? That tests him and it won’t be accurate.