Snake_Baker
The one true King of the North
- Apr 24, 2013
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He only needed to stand in the middle of the goals to be safe.
.........or call for it!
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He only needed to stand in the middle of the goals to be safe.
Our players do not believe in Scott's game plan.
We need to play like we are an 80-100 tackle per game team instead of a 43 tackle team, we perform better from stoppages around the ground, it is our major source of scoring when we play well so we want stoppages. We want to stop the opposition taking uncontested marks so the kicker is under pressure when he kicks, makes it harder for him to hit a target with a kick we can't pressure the receiver. Everything hinges on that intent to pressure and tackle. That is instinctual with someone like Anderson, he only played 66% ToG but laid 10 effective tackles, without Anderson we would have had a Fremantle-esque 30ish tackle game. You can't give someone an Anderson, Archer or Pickett type of instinct, but you can get everyone to focus on that instead of ball watch, to run aggressively instead of waddle between the arcs.
Despite the evidence of last year where we pressured contenders and beat them quite comfortably, we refuse to be prepared to do the hard work because we never hold players accountable for slacking off so we now end up with team-wide efforts and you can't drop almost everyone. We have no on-field leadership and we don't have a good match day coach and based on the evidence a mediocre development and strategic coach.
This just isn't a winning formula. He should put a video up of the West Coast or the other good games from last year side by side with our pathetic efforts this year and he should ask the players who were here for both games why they aren't prepared to do what they did in those games.
Something has to give, either the players have to stick their hand up and say we need to shape up or ship out or else if they can't or wont perform for the coach he has to fall on his sword and say he can't get the players to execute the game plan. If nothing happens we will just fade into mediocrity like Carlton did when they let their players call the show.
While I don’t agree with the method, it did attract media attention.
The more attention the issue gets can only be seen as a good thing, because to date Brad has had the luxury of us having a low media profile.
That is the issue, I don’t have any confidence in the board to make change.If the club is so clueless/dysfunctional that it needs a lot of negative media to do anything then you should have zero confidence in any decision the board makes in terms of changes. We need to be professional or else we are ******.
While I agree for the most part, I think every single AFL player in this day and age knows how important tackling and pressure are. You don't get to that level without knowing it.
I'm not 100 per cent certain it's an issue of intent. In order to lay a tackle, you need to be close to the ball in the stoppage. There are players who appear to have been designated as outside receivers who we can visibly see fighting their instincts to run in there and lay a tackle or hunt the ball for themselves. Positioning around the ball and around the stoppage is what makes tackling possible. It's all well and good to say "you need to tackle more" to a player like Polec, but if he's being instructed to sit 3-5m off the contest, and doing that effectively, then it's pretty difficult for him to be in a position where it is possible to pressure the opposition.
Wouldnt he only be captain for like 2 years at best? Hard to say how much longer Robbie can go on and also be the player that lifts the team on game day during crucial moments which requires a certain level of physicality and skill.
I would keep him in the leadership team, but honestly I'd go with a captain that will embody the next team going forward after the Scott era.
Would of been hit on the tit by 16 balls if wearing an oppo jumper.........or call for it!
That is f***ing idiotic.I didn’t know where else to put this but does anyone else find it disappointing that Corey McKernan offered to help at the club but was knocked back?
Sounds about right for a club that's lost its identity...I didn’t know where else to put this but does anyone else find it disappointing that Corey McKernan offered to help at the club but was knocked back?
Yeah
But who is that person?
Atley?
Brown?
Our leadership is rooted.
Jacks been crap but what the f*** is coming in next?
Cunners if he'll run hard on the spread.
Otherwise Jed Anderson.
This club stinks!I didn’t know where else to put this but does anyone else find it disappointing that Corey McKernan offered to help at the club but was knocked back?
Since I brought up the West Coast game from last year I will use it as an example of a good game, it wasn't our best defensive effort but we put them under a lot of pressure on every line. I am sure you aren't suggesting our game plan has changed from that game to this game. So why is there such a difference in application between efforts we know gets results and efforts we know do not get results?
Players who play both games: (WCE game/Ess game) for tackles
Cunnington 10/1
Simpkin 8/3
Anderson 6/10
Higgins 4/2
Goldstein 4/1
Turner 4/3
Thompson 3/1
Ziebell 3/3
Dumont 3/2
Ahern 3/0
Tarrant 2/1
Atley 2/1
Wood 2/0
Macmillan 1/2
Wright 0/1
Brown 0/2
Those who didn't play both games
Walker 4/-
Daw 3/-
Williams 3/-
McDonald 3/-
Clarke 3/-
Hrovat 2/-
Hall -/4
LDU -/2
Pittard -/1
Polec -/1
Zurhaar -/1
Scott -/1
Even though we went from 18/10 from those who didn't play the game last year vs the new guys, most of the guys that are missing weren't the on-field leaders or massive tacklers in general, these guys tend to follow the tone set by the leaders/experienced players. It was going 55/33 from the core group that was the problem, particularly from people in the engine room where the bulk of the variance lays.
If anyone expects Polec and Hall to lead the hardball stuff by example while our inside sags off then people have unrealistic expectations.
After some time to settle and think I wonder if the boys just need to get out there and enjoy footy and the contest. We clearly came out with intensity against Adelaide after a bad start, but we kicked poorly at goal. Is our goal kicking a reflection of our current mental state? Working so hard to play well and meet expectations that we put ourselves under immense psychological pressure.
It's clear no one goes out with the intent to lose like we did against Essendon. I thought we looked okay to start off with, but after not getting reward for effort the pressure builds and takes it toll on our confidence.
The club need to step back and take a simple approach. Thrive for the contest and put opposition under pressure with quick ball movement. That's just my opinion anyway.
Does anybody want to take a guess at what Cunnington, Higgins and Anderson are doing here?
Na, that’s ridiculous. The kid has been looking forward to it for weeks. If we pulled the kid from going it would have got out and then we would have been absolutely smashed in the media. Completely and utterly ridiculed.Even if this was preplanned which I’m sure it was, after that disgraceful performance they should have had the balls to pull it and confront the media properly.
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Does anybody want to take a guess at what Cunnington, Higgins and Anderson are doing here?
1. Will Walker looked great last year.Time will tell on TT.
I’m still getting over Will Walker at such a high pick when all the experts believed he was a fourth or fifth rounder if lucky.
We love reaching with our picks.
Durdin, Nielson McKay just to name a few more.
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