Review Round 6, 2025 - Brisbane Lions vs. Collingwood

[Mr Ripper]

I was bummed before the game,

tmi

 

[Nunez]

No early season bye, lots of challenges (cyclone etc) and a 5 day break felt like it culminated in what we saw.

9 day break is worth its weight in gold.

 

[buttermuffs]

Someone said in the West Coast and Geelong threads that we will be feeling the result of the rough weather games until the bye.

Not sure it’ll be until the bye but after a five day break in another game above 30 degrees it certainly was going to be a challenge. Collingwood was superb as well and I’d say would’ve beaten us in any situation last night.

We take the 9 day break into the Saints game and regroup. Fages mentioned midfield workfare was something that needed working on before the game and I doubt that’s changed.

Hippy will suck as the backup ruck in the actual contests but we need him up the ground in a similar role Daniher was in the past two years. He’s got the same spirit as Joe in taking the game on and stuffing it up half the time. Day had his best game yet but Hippy is much more effective up the ground.

 

[GenericUsername202]

No early season bye, lots of challenges (cyclone etc) and a 5 day break felt like it culminated in what we saw.

9 day break is worth its weight in gold.

I don't see how we can blame the lack of bye or the cyclone challenge (which wasn't that big of an issue) when we haven't turned up for a full game at all this season. This loss was coming, and this could have happened the week before, or the week before, etc. We were found out last night and if we keep playing this way, we won't win the flag.

 

[Nunez]

I don't see how we can blame the lack of bye or the cyclone challenge (which wasn't that big of an issue) when we haven't turned up for a full game at all this season. This loss was coming, and this could have happened the week before, or the week before, etc. We were found out last night and if we keep playing this way, we won't win the flag.

Cumulative load is a real thing, and if your recovery isn't on point then it can effect your performance. I wouldn't blame any one thing on last night's game. That would be a cop out. What we saw though was the vast majority of players looking lethargic, fumbly and tired.

We have no doubt been lucky to have a few easier opponents to start the year, but to my eye it was very clear we weren't our usual selves and it's hard to look past the challenges regarding scheduling, training and recovery as the reason why.

If we're playing like this in September, absolutely be concerned. This team and the high performance staff plan for the opposite - as we saw last year.

 

[Saucery]

Charlie ends up in the defensive 50 quite a lot. Seems like that mindset has come at the cost of being an offensive show pony.

Charlies never been the same since Linc went down, forced into a roll he's just not suited to.

 

[martinson]

Cumulative load is a real thing, and if your recovery isn't on point then it can effect your performance. I wouldn't blame any one thing on last night's game. That would be a cop out. What we saw though was the vast majority of players looking lethargic, fumbly and tired.

We have no doubt been lucky to have a few easier opponents to start the year, but to my eye it was very clear we weren't our usual selves and it's hard to look past the challenges regarding scheduling, training and recovery as the reason why.

If we're playing like this in September, absolutely be concerned. This team and the high performance staff plan for the opposite - as we saw last year.

Have to agree. You could see we weren't on from the start , just not focused with lethargic looking shots on goal , just a general malaise . I thought we tried hard enough and summoned some aggression but didn't have the legs or the energy. And they were really up for it and ruthless.

Not a bad one to lose in hindsight and might give them a false sense of confidence when we meet again . No doubt though they're an improved team on last year.

 

[Saucery]

The thing I find most problematic with Day is his lack of athleticism. If the ball isn't in the forward 50 then he is nonexistent. At least with Fort in the ruck and Big O ruck forward Oscar will run up the wing and offer an option out.

When we are under so much pressure that our kicking game isn't working currently we've got nothing, unless Hipwood runs himself into the ground. I hope we keep working on our hand ball game during high pressure phases but let's face it it's our Achillies heal in many ways.

 

[martinson]

The thing I find most problematic with Day is his lack of athleticism. If the ball isn't in the forward 50 then he is nonexistent. At least with Fort in the ruck and Big O ruck forward Oscar will run up the wing and offer an option out.

When we are under so much pressure that our kicking game isn't working currently we've got nothing, unless Hipwood runs himself into the ground. I hope we keep working on our hand ball game during high pressure phases but let's face it it's our Achillies heal in many ways.

Happy to give Fort a shot at it myself . Day was better last night but a liability at times. Fort's obviously a much better ruckman and debatable whether he's a better forward.

But not expecting any change until it becomes very obvious , if it does.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Happy to give Fort a shot at it myself . Day was better last night but a liability at times. Fort's obviously a much better ruckman and debatable whether he's a better forward.

But not expecting any change until it becomes very obvious , if it does.

Agree, especially as Fort was BOG in the VFL. Be good to reward form.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Unless I am mistaken, Big O has always worked better in the past with Joey pinch hitting, versus sharing with Fort. For whatever reason.

In saying that, Fort coming in shouldn't be to take 50/50 ruck duties but to play the forward role that sometimes pinch hits in the ruck (Big positive there). Definitely worth a try at some point.

 

[Sunny Land]

Charlies never been the same since Linc went down, forced into a roll he's just not suited to.

His role is no different to any other year...he's just struggling with form.

 

[Mooch]

The ump paid a free kick to McStay and he kicked a goal while everyone was looking at the melee.

Shouldn't have been a free kick either but then that was the night. Umpires we're almost as poor as the Lions. Some of their decisions were baffling, some infuriating.

 

[Saucery]

Happy to give Fort a shot at it myself . Day was better last night but a liability at times. Fort's obviously a much better ruckman and debatable whether he's a better forward.

But not expecting any change until it becomes very obvious , if it does.

It's Oscar who should replace Day, Fort to Oscars roll, Fort is a premiership ruckman after all. Day has shown nothing to suggest he's a walk up start in a premiership side, (or any side for that matter).

Back to the VFL, smash the door down like everyone else. Day was on his way to the retirement village before we thought he might hold some upside.

 

[Saucery]

His role is no different to any other year...he's just struggling with form.

Na when Linc was playing the defensive forward Charlie was off the leash, now he's playing the defensive forward and it's not his gig. Of course his form is suffering, playing a role you're not suited to is like being played out of position.

 

[Pacman82]

Such a strange collective down game for this team. Don't think I've ever seen all of Neale, Ashcroft and Hugh be so ineffective in a game at the same time. Everyone bar Bailey and Answerth were very poor.

Bailey let us down by missing that easy shot on goal, for me that was when the game took a turn.

He gets an A for effort otherwise & has been huge this season so far.

 

[martinson]

Unless I am mistaken, Big O has always worked better in the past with Joey pinch hitting, versus sharing with Fort. For whatever reason.

In saying that, Fort coming in shouldn't be to take 50/50 ruck duties but to play the forward role that sometimes pinch hits in the ruck (Big positive there). Definitely worth a try at some point.

We lost momentum in the 2nd quarter when Day took the centre clearances and they just killed us . Obviously that's not solely on Day and Oscar wasn't going all that hot either , but the difference was fairly evident. Day wasn't the worst of our problems last night just the same.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Cam Rayner’s stats warrant examination. In the third quarter he had 81% time on ground and did not collect a single disposal or lay a singe tackle. In the second quarter he had one disposal, which came from a good mark and he kicked a goal. We need much more out of him. The same goes for Hipwood, who had one disposal in the second quarter and two in the third.

Both Hipwood and Rayner have the ability to break games open and do extraordinary things, but I would love to swap some of that mercurial brilliance for less spectacular, but much more needed, consistency.

It would be great to be able to rely on them.

 

[Ceebee]

I don’t know why Fort is not in the side .

 

[Nunez]

Cam Rayner’s stats warrant examination. In the third quarter he had 81% time on ground and did not collect a single disposal or lay a singe tackle. In the second quarter he had one disposal, which came from a good mark and he kicked a goal. We need much more out of him. The same goes for Hipwood, who had one disposal in the second quarter and two in the third.

Both Hipwood and Rayner have the ability to break games open and do extraordinary things, but I would love to swap some of that mercurial brilliance for less spectacular, but much more needed, consistency.

It would be great to be able to rely on them.

He was parked forward. Only got 3 CBA. Can't blame him for mids stinking it up.

 

[CarterS]

I'd have Fort and Robertson in after that. Day and someone else out.

 

[MacMum]

Just on the Logan push Damo is at it begging for a suspension.

I'd be interested in others thoughts but Logan barely touched Moore who propelled himself into the contest maybe looking for a free. I didn't detect any push. He just had his hand there.

Is that one eyed ? Watched it a few times and that's my conclusion.

I've watched it a few times and I'm with you.....unless they have other angles that we haven't seen, I'm damned if I can see how he gets suspended for that..

I also thought Moore showed his acting skills somewhat, he flops down with a lot of deliberation imo

 

[martinson]

Cam Rayner’s stats warrant examination. In the third quarter he had 81% time on ground and did not collect a single disposal or lay a singe tackle. In the second quarter he had one disposal, which came from a good mark and he kicked a goal. We need much more out of him. The same goes for Hipwood, who had one disposal in the second quarter and two in the third.

Both Hipwood and Rayner have the ability to break games open and do extraordinary things, but I would love to swap some of that mercurial brilliance for less spectacular, but much more needed, consistency.

It would be great to be able to rely on them.

Cam's a burst player and it's just the nature of how he plays that he can't consistently do the mercurial and sometimes not at all during games . He's showing some improved features the last year or two but it really wasn't his go last night with the forward entries well down and after half time barely at all. He tried to throw his weight around when he got near it but they just sucked it up.

I see Hippy as a red hot trier with athleticism but not enough skill to pull off what he looks like he should in the way he approaches a contest. I reckon he's gradually getting over the groin problem and I wouldn't have wanted to be a KPF in our team last night.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Morris gets hours of media coverage for a non incident, no mention of Daicos's act to deserve a misconduct fine

 

[Sproj]

I don’t know why Fort is not in the side .

We've met our Darcy quota.