Prediction Round 6, 2025: Changes vs Essendon

[Miguel Sanchez]

Cliffs: Williams 1 hitout to advantage, 17 hitouts to disadvantage (didn’t realize they kept that stat). Second worst differential since they started recording.

Flynn got dropped for an all-time terrible performance, now his replacement puts in a different one.

 

[ziad]

Going just off the stats Long and Brockman each had 19 touches after 4 and 7 respectively vs GWS. This is why these guys need to play in the WAFL. Flynn had 48 hitouts and 20 touches which is what you want from an AFL listed ruckman playing WAFL.

Petch had 10 touches and kicked 1 goal. Not going to get recalled doing that. Did kick 5 in Rd 1 but still only 10 touches. I remember a 20 year old Mark LeCras getting 35 touches and kicking 7.6 then backing it up with 29 touches and 8.1. This is a guy who could kick goals for fun but averaged 18 touches a game in his best AFL season in terms of pushing up the ground. I don't understand why someone like Petruccelle can't go back to WAFL and get 20-30 touches and 10 inside 50s.

Kelly had 20 touches and a pleasing 10 inside 50s. Not terrible, but he is an AFL B&F winner from 2023 and isn't coming back from injury. In the other game Parfitt had 35 touches and Constable 31 with 8 tackles. Be interesting to see how Perth vs WC goes this week. Will Brodie regularly picks up 30 touches for Peel and can't get a look in at Freo. The great Rowan Jones' last WAFL game was 20 handball 20 kick masterpiece.

40 touches in the WAFL would have been impressive for Kelly given his credentials, but I have no idea what he is being tasked to do.

 

[Scotland]

40 touches in the WAFL would have been impressive for Kelly given his credentials, but I have no idea what he is being tasked to do.

I would expect Kelly to attend most centre bounces at WAFL level. Given his skillset and having 8 AFL pre-seasons under his belt he should be able to dominate in terms of winning clearances and disposals. Even if he had 50 touches and 20 clearances I would still expect the team to struggle given the make up.

 

[DanWCE]

Cliffs: Williams 1 hitout to advantage, 17 hitouts to disadvantage (didn’t realize they kept that stat). Second worst differential since they started recording.

Flynn got dropped for an all-time terrible performance, now his replacement puts in a different one.

I'm not surprised. Continued to jump up and tap the ball way into space out in front of the centre bounce only for it to be picked off. For someone who was getting a decent leap at it and clear first hands, there was no finesse or nous to put it to our mids.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Essendon are not a big physical team;their ruckman included.They are small and pacy.
Flynn has racked up WAFL numbers but media were careful to note; against unrecognised opposition.
Edwards out for Gov due to lack of pace.
Duggan out for Greco for obvious reasons.
JW out for either Brockman or Petch.
JW hasn’t done enough. What he does do, he does well but nowhere enough.
We need pace against the Bombers.
HD in the guts !!

 

[Yeahnahmate]

I'm not surprised. Continued to jump up and tap the ball way into space out in front of the centre bounce only for it to be picked off. For someone who was getting a decent leap at it and clear first hands, there was no finesse or nous to put it to our mids.

This much is true. Our ruck stocks in general are deplorable

 

[Grahame]

I'm not surprised. Continued to jump up and tap the ball way into space out in front of the centre bounce only for it to be picked off. For someone who was getting a decent leap at it and clear first hands, there was no finesse or nous to put it to our mids.

Or for there to be a structure for our mids to capitalise. Or to capitalise if the oppo get the tap.

Looking at you JSchoey and Shuey.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Petch had 10 touches and kicked 1 goal. Not going to get recalled doing that. Did kick 5 in Rd 1 but still only 10 touches. I remember a 20 year old Mark LeCras getting 35 touches and kicking 7.6 then backing it up with 29 touches and 8.1. This is a guy who could kick goals for fun but averaged 18 touches a game in his best AFL season in terms of pushing up the ground. I don't understand why someone like Petruccelle can't go back to WAFL and get 20-30 touches and 10 inside 50s.

Ummm.... because he's shite? You'd expect a professional footballer with 8 years of training under his belt would be absolutely carving it up in the WAFL. He should be dominating. Absolute list-clogger.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Cliffs: Williams 1 hitout to advantage, 17 hitouts to disadvantage (didn’t realize they kept that stat). Second worst differential since they started recording.

Flynn got dropped for an all-time terrible performance, now his replacement puts in a different one.

Was at the captains run on Friday and one of the main things I noticed was Shuey working directly with Williams and Gross/Hall.

For whatever reason it looked like Bailey was being instructed to hit it on the opposite side to where the mids were standing nearly every time

Actually said to my son shouldn't they be practising actually hitting to someone. Unless Baileys that bad he was just getting it all wrong....

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Was at the captains run on Friday and one of the main things I noticed was Shuey working directly with Williams and Gross/Hall.

For whatever reason it looked like Bailey was being instructed to hit it on the opposite side to where the mids were standing nearly every time

Actually said to my son shouldn't they be practising actually hitting to someone. Unless Baileys that bad he was just getting it all wrong....

You train like you play . Hopefully someone with more of an idea than me about stoppage strategies can offer some insight on this, seems pretty bizarre

 

[DanWCE]

Or for there to be a structure for our mids to capitalise. Or to capitalise if if the get the tap.

Looking at you JSchoey and Shuey.

We can put some of that on Baz and the young bulls not having played much together, which you can even add Graham and Baker into, but at some point if Baz realised he's getting a really good run and jump at the centre bounce, maybe let the boys know hey I'm hitting it 10m out the front door. Or come up with a plan B considering the Blues were peeling off the back 50 and intercepting it every time.

 

[flyinghi64]

Just a little snippet for anyone who wants to compare Flynn's "woeful" effort round 1 compared to BBW round 5.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Just a little snippet for anyone who wants to compare Flynn's "woeful" effort round 1 compared to BBW round 5.

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Flynn is the better ruckman - I hoped the idea of BW & Flynn combined would work, with BW primarily the second ruck/fwd. Unforch BW is a potato around the ground.

 

[Astro7]

40 touches in the WAFL would have been impressive for Kelly given his credentials, but I have no idea what he is being tasked to do.

Not sure either, his defensive running?...renowned for sagging off his man and have been some glaring examples recently, especially against GWS...is why he was dropped I think?

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Just a little snippet for anyone who wants to compare Flynn's "woeful" effort round 1 compared to BBW round 5.

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Yepppp they both stink. Evidenced by limited minutes young fwds Archer &
JWill both being more effective with taps when in there

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Hewett training like crazy. Bit of a stray elbow swung into Harley’s head for good measure

 

[Astro7]

I thought baker spent alot of time in the middle?

He did during the derby and honestly he looks like a child out there, even comparing him to serong.

He's a rabid terrier, gives 110%...

 

[Barrybran]

Was at the captains run on Friday and one of the main things I noticed was Shuey working directly with Williams and Gross/Hall.

For whatever reason it looked like Bailey was being instructed to hit it on the opposite side to where the mids were standing nearly every time

Actually said to my son shouldn't they be practising actually hitting to someone. Unless Baileys that bad he was just getting it all wrong....

Is it possible they were training for the opposition winning the ball? That seems to be where our guys are struggling most at the minute.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Ummm.... because he's shite? You'd expect a professional footballer with 8 years of training under his belt would be absolutely carving it up in the WAFL. He should be dominating. Absolute list-clogger.

Kicked 5 the week before and could quite easily have kicked 3-4 on the weekend.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Hewett training like crazy. Bit of a stray elbow swung into Harley’s head for good measure

Hewitt is an intense mother****er and I love to see it.

 

[Astro7]

Ummm.... because he's shite? You'd expect a professional footballer with 8 years of training under his belt would be absolutely carving it up in the WAFL. He should be dominating. Absolute list-clogger.

In a way Petch is another leftover from our recent toxic era - and part of the reason why we are where we are now (poor drafting etc).
He's played 89 games and in his bio it says - 'the Victorian is entering the prime years of his career and he will be an important member of the ‘middle-age’ bracket on West Coast’s playing list in 2025...'
Here we are nearly 6 games in and he's played 1 game...maybe he'll break-out soon?

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Anyone know if hat time WC team gets named?

 

[PremiershipNo4]

What

 

[amazingjoshy]

Anyone know if hat time WC team gets named?

Tomorrow at 420 with everyone else

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Tomorrow at 420 with everyone else

Cheers