Toast Round 6 = Collingwood 90-77 Essendon

[Bramax]

Spare me - go back and take a look at gut punches that go to the MRO. The vast majority have been low impact which resulted in fines. Christian has made comment that fines for these acts are an effective deterrent. This was another example. End of story.

Now you’re being an ***wipe not Sideswipe. Pffft.

 

[Bramax]

Regardless of impact, if it starts creeping back in, you can bet your bottom dollar that the AFL will find a way to ensure a suspension is handed out.

Exactly my point to begin with. Somehow it’s been lost on Sideswipe.

 

[sideswipe]

Exactly my point to begin with. Somehow it’s been lost on Sideswipe.

I was merely pointing out the rules as they stand. You were imagining different had happened in the past.

 

[Fat Jesus]

I was merely pointing out the rules as they stand. You were imagining different had happened in the past.

True mate the rules need changing.
You never punch anyone with a closed fist.
Frikkin ridiculous

 

[sideswipe]

If a player gets winded I would classify that as medium to high.

The guidelines are pretty much gobbledygook when it comes to classifying impact. There are a multitude of factors that can come under consideration. But going off past assessments, a gut punch that doesn't put a player out of play will be assessed as low.

I wouldn't mind the AFL coming out and saying deliberate punches off the ball will be assessed no lower than medium. It would be rare for them to do it mid-season, but they can do anything. Maybe Dillon can get Gale to do it as his first little footy task?

Lots of Tigers in at head office now.

 

[Bramax]

I was merely pointing out the rules as they stand. You were imagining different had happened in the past.

And I was merely pointing out this may lead to an increase in this type of act. You obviously disagree. Don’t you think if half the Adelaide team punch Daicos in the solar plexus during the game this week that it just might impact on his ability to gather 40 disposals?
Fines don’t bother players that are earning hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. Suspensions do.

 

[Fat Jesus]

And I was merely pointing out this may lead to an increase in this type of act. You obviously disagree. Don’t you think if half the Adelaide team punch Daicos in the solar plexus during the game this week that it just might impact on his ability to gather 40 disposals?
Fines don’t bother players that are earning hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. Suspensions do.

With the current guidelines can you punch a player in the balls?
Why should that be any different.
A closed fist is always wrong.
Some of these supposed sling tackles have not been as bad.
Although some have been really bad.

 

[sideswipe]

And I was merely pointing out this may lead to an increase in this type of act. You obviously disagree. Don’t you think if half the Adelaide team punch Daicos in the solar plexus during the game this week that it just might impact on his ability to gather 40 disposals?
Fines don’t bother players that are earning hundreds of thousands of dollars each year. Suspensions do.

Your initial assertion was that the "Tribunal was setting its own precedent" and that "not so long ago" gut punches were attracting suspension. Both wrong.

 

[Bramax]

With the current guidelines can you punch a player in the balls?
Why should that be any different.
A closed fist is always wrong.
Some of these supposed sling tackles have not been as bad.
Although some have been really bad.

Agreed

 

[Bramax]

Your initial assertion was that the "Tribunal was setting its own precedent" and that "not so long ago" gut punches were attracting suspension. Both wrong.

You’re being obstinate. I’m happy to can this conversation as it’s off topic.

 

[sideswipe]

With the current guidelines can you punch a player in the balls?
Why should that be any different.
A closed fist is always wrong.
Some of these supposed sling tackles have not been as bad.
Although some have been really bad.

Contact to the groin gets assessed at the same level of seriousness as contact to the head. So no, you can't. If that same punch was to Daicos' nuts, the likely assessment would have been intentional high/groin contact with impact anything from medium to high. Likely 2-3 weeks.

 

[Bramax]

Contact to the groin gets assessed at the same level of seriousness as contact to the head. So no, you can't. If that same punch was to Daicos' nuts, the likely assessment would have been intentional high/groin contact with impact anything from medium to high. Likely 2-3 weeks.

And yet the AFL has previously warned players that a punch to the stomach will treated the same as to the head. So there was a shift in their stance on this. Time to let it go mate.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

A deliberate punch to the guts or rib cage should always draw a suspension. They have got the rules wrong.

Note I’m talking about deliberate punches behind play or when there’s no play at all …….not sneaky punches in contests.

 

[sideswipe]

And yet the AFL has previously warned players that a punch to the stomach will treated the same as to the head. So there was a shift in their stance on this. Time to let it go mate.

You're the one who is hanging on. Can you point me to how that would work under the guidelines?

 

[Bramax]

A deliberate punch to the guts or rib cage should always draw a suspension. They have got the rules wrong.

Note I’m talking about deliberate punches behind play or when there’s no play at al…… not sneaky punches in contests.

I agree. And I reckon the Daicos punch was the former.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I agree. And I reckon the Daicos punch was the former.

Yeah the difference is I think the rule is wrong ………while you think the current rules allow for the player to be suspended

 

[windchimes]

The youngsters around here will be scratching their heads!

You underestimate us youngsters. A few of us on here are Brunswick indie hipsters who like The Pixies and The Cure and op shop clothes. You should know this as well as anyone.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Don’t you think if half the Adelaide team punch Daicos in the solar plexus during the game this week that it just might impact on his ability to gather 40 disposals?

Don’t give them ideas. Teams may become willing to have each of 23 players punch Nick Daicos in the guts for a total of $69k. The tankers would hand that to you in a paper bag, if you so much as managed to get a kick backwards while down 10 goals.

 

[Bramax]

Yeah the difference is I think the rule is wrong ………while you think the current rules allow for the player to be suspended

Yes because it’s all about how the impact is assessed.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Don’t give them ideas. Teams may become willing to have each of 23 players punch Nick Daicos in the guts for a total of $69k. The tankers would hand that to you in a paper bag, if you so much as managed to get a kick backwards while down 10 goals.

Reminds me of the glory days in 2010 when Steven baker was suspended for nine matches for four seperate incidents in the same game

 

[Pistol Night]

Reminds me of the glory days in 2010 when Steven baker was suspended for nine matches for four seperate incidents in the same game

When you have the football ability of a paraplegic sloth you need something in your kit bag

 

[ThePhantom777]

Edit: I have watched this 20 times already

Perfect. McCreery in beast mode + my favourite band POD

 

[ThePhantom777]

The crowd was loud. Haven't hear us that loud since first quarter goals in 2018 GF.

 

[TradeDraft]

Tribunal setting its own precedent. Gut punches coming en masse.

Tackling is worse then Punching at the Moment

 

[jonbe54]

Openly punch a player in the guts = get off with a fine

Three players tackle a player at the same time, pick one out = suspension

Gotta luv the AFL

It's a disgrace the footy media are obsessed with close ups - it's only in occasional general play flashes that you really can fully appreciate the power, fury and awesome intent as he launches himself at an opponent - nothing unusual to see him literally charging in from 20 meters.

Excitement machine.