Autopsy Round 6: Hawks don’t leave lockdown. Pies play halfcourt.

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Just a straight question.
If Strats wasn't captain would you and others be making the same calls.
Thought he was having a crack tonight, far from good but had plenty of mates.
Just feel that since he was made captain some think he should be wearing a cape or something.

people want every HFC captain to be like Hodge and fail to realise that Hodge was a once in a lifetime leader

 

[PhatHQ]

Just watching this match, we look deflated, and it looks like something is very wrong within the team. I think it all stems from the leadership personally.

I said this last year. Smith, Gunston and Shiels would all have been a better choice and all look to have swallowed a bitter pill with the Stratton selection.
watch the huddle before the first bounce... Gunston caught my eye as not listening to Stratts at all and there were a couple of others. I seen the look as I remember doing the same at times and seen it from players when I was captain.
It’s not all sunshine and rainbows over there I recon.

 

[WWSD]

Why do we go in with 2 rucks realise it doesn’t work, put big boy in the ruck at half time and then pick the same structure the following week?

Two weeks in a row Clarkson has put McEvoy in the ruck when the game is well and truly over.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

He was piss, clearly a love child of yours.
Let's build the future around him.
Let's go boyz woo hoo.

A child love? No, maybe just one of the better payers tonight.

 

[hk89]

Just a straight question.
If Strats wasn't captain would you and others be making the same calls.
Thought he was having a crack tonight, far from good but had plenty of mates.
Just feel that since he was made captain some think he should be wearing a cape or something.

I thought he was worth dropping earlier in the season, and it was the captaincy keeping him in the side, but I reckon he's actually been ok in our last two losses, given how bad everyone else has been around him.

 

[grumbleguts]

Pretty poor performance, that.

 

[Spursfan]

My highlight of how out of touch umps have become, last quarter O'Brien just takes possession, absolute split second possession is driven into the ground not only by Grundy but some other magpie player was riding Grundy, both land on O'Brien's back, ball spills out, play on.
Facepalm head shake then back to facepalm again.

was that in the middle of the ground? Someone got the ball in the center square early in the last and instantaneously nailed in the back by Grundy and other Pie and it was HTB

 

[Maybloomer]

Mitchell marks the ball, then is tackled by Maynard - umpire yells at him 3 times to get back 2 meters, he doesn’t move ... umpire does nothing play on haha

That gutless effort, along with the unrealistic attempt that lead to a Pies goal summed up another pissweak effort by the umpires. Throws missed, in the back paid as HTB, poor adjudication of prior opportunity etc etc etc. Did it affect the result? No. Does it affect the enjoyment and integrity of the game? Absolutely.

For s**t umpires to prosper, all it takes is for good men to do nothing. One good man tried to do something and copped it by the media and the AFL.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

A child love? No, maybe just one of the better payers tonight.

Feel if I keep disagreeing with you I'll end up being the next tige19 but I disagree.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

was that in the middle of the ground? Someone got the ball in the center square early in the last and instantaneously nailed in the back by Grundy and other Pie and it was HTB

All the same no in the back anymore.
And they wonder how to stop congestion.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

people want every HFC captain to be like Hodge and fail to realise that Hodge was a once in a lifetime leader

Lethal and Tucky say hello.

 

[hk89]

That's been an indictment on the AFL/umpires, not Clarko.

Yup, the vast difference in how HTB is now applied to us compared to everyone else is a sad reflection on the integrity of the umpires. They've made Clarko's comments personal. At least before Clarko's comments, tacklers from every side were getting the rough end of the pineapple, now its just us, with the extra middle finger being given by being extra harsh on our ball carriers. I don't mind the new interpretation when I've watched other games (apart form a couple of obvious errors, which is to be expected as umpires adapt to a new interpretation directive)), but it just makes me angry watching our last two games, given how one sided the interpretations have been.

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Lethal and Tucky say hello.

i wasnt alive when they were playing, so what i said is still technically correct

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Feel if I keep disagreeing with you I'll end up being the next tige19 but I disagree.

You’re in the minority, so disagree as much as you like.

 

[hk89]

All the same no in the back anymore.

I actually think tacklers do a pretty good job of avoiding ITB these days, and I prefer a lighter interpretation otherwise you end up over-rewarding the blokes who throw themselves forward in the tackle. Agree that TOB's example was fairly textbook example of ITB though.

 

[Endorphin Machine]

Two weeks in a row Clarkson has put McEvoy in the ruck when the game is well and truly over.

Looks like Ceglar rucks first three quarters, McEvoy does the last to relieve . It’s happened most games this year.

 

[MJA33]

That gutless effort, along with the unrealistic attempt that lead to a Pies goal summed up another pissweak effort by the umpires. Throws missed, in the back paid as HTB, poor adjudication of prior opportunity etc etc etc. Did it affect the result? No. Does it affect the enjoyment and integrity of the game? Absolutely.

For sh*t umpires to prosper, all it takes is for good men to do nothing. One good man tried to do something and copped it by the media and the AFL.

The first cox free in the first quarter was the beginning. We were horrible tonight no doubt about it , we had no chance though. Miochek sits on Frawleys head and brings him to ground, doesn’t touch the ball, play on results in goal. Trelor 35 touches 15 of them were throws.

 

[Big Hotdog]

Lethal and Tucky say hello.

Mitchell and Vanders always cracked in too not to mention Crawf.

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[Bumps"N"Grins]

Mods are onto our Geelong mate inboxing everyone.
Thankless job I know but this guy is predicable as night follows day.
VPNs at work no doubt

 

[WWSD]

Looks like Ceglar rucks first three quarters, McEvoy does the last to relieve . It’s happened most games this year.

And the logic behind that move?

 

[MrPremiership]

Whenever we lose, 2 things happen:

- calls for TOB to get dropped
- calls that the 2 rucks option isn't working

There is far more wrong that the above

 

[Walshawk]

Stratton has been better than last year, but still poor.
Worpel has already peaked.
Day will be star.
Scully adds nothing.
Morris isn’t ready.
Morrison was good.
Frost and Frawley are the same player. Good closing speed, but not much between the ears. Slow decision maker and poor skills.
Gunston was an unbelievable third forward. Not a good number 1 forward.
Patton adds less than Scully.
Chad stayed home.

We had a bad night, and will be better next week, but clearly Clarko over-rates our list if he thinks topping up with players like Patton, Scully, Frost, etc is going to win us another flag.

 

[lethalselbow]

Mods are onto our Geelong mate inboxing everyone.
Thankless job I know but this guy is predicable as night follows day.
VPNs at work no doubt

Thanks Mods. Was boringly annoying

 

[SA HAWK]

Stratton has been better than last year, but still poor.
Worpel has already peaked.
Day will be star.
Scully adds nothing.
Morris isn’t ready.
Morrison was good.
Frost and Frawley are the same player. Good closing speed, but not much between the ears. Slow decision maker and poor skills.
Gunston was an unbelievable third forward. Not a good number 1 forward.
Patton adds less than Scully.
Chad stayed home.

We had a bad night, and will be better next week, but clearly Clarko over-rates our list if he thinks topping up with players like Patton, Scully, Frost, etc is going to win us another flag.

Bit harsh on Worpel let’s not forget he is a 3rd year player.

At least we didn’t give up the world for him.

 

[Endorphin Machine]

And the logic behind that move?

Don’t ask me, I’d have McEvoy as first ruck and Ceglar in the twos. We’re too tall as it is.
And Ceglar got outplayed by Rhys Stanley who is a complete dud.