Preview Round 6 vs Port Adelaide

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All this talk about losing so Scott goes isn’t really what I want. I want Scott to go but I also want to win. I could never at the first bounce of a north game hope we lose.

None of you guys would.

Deep down I still think we can turn this around.

Yes I have seen the 5 games (4 live). Yes we are terrible. I just feel like we are over coached. Over programmed. The message should be to take the game on. Last week 50+ points down in the last and Atley taking the ball in space looks to slow it down and kicks it 30m backwards. It’s madness.

So yes new coach thanks as he has worn me out, but to support north to lose NEVER!!
Unfortunately those two choices are not mutually exclusive, you need to pick one.
 

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Good to see we've raised or intensity level at training. :rolleyes:

I posted on this board in another thread that i noticed the difference in intensity at training between us and a couple of other clubs. It Is noticeable. What you say now DarwinRoo , small sample size justified now?
 
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Unfortunately those two choices are not mutually exclusive, you need to pick one.
Well if I have to pick one. I would like us to win this week. I still feel like Brad will be shown the door. It’s Friday night footy. Everyone watching. I don’t want to support a rabble. I don’t hate Scott personally to the point I would want us to lose.
 

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Well if I have to pick one. I would like us to win this week. I still feel like Brad will be shown the door. It’s Friday night footy. Everyone watching. I don’t want to support a rabble. I don’t hate Scott personally to the point I would want us to lose.
None of us hate him either, nice bloke. Just cant coach.
 

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Well if I have to pick one. I would like us to win this week. I still feel like Brad will be shown the door. It’s Friday night footy. Everyone watching. I don’t want to support a rabble. I don’t hate Scott personally to the point I would want us to lose.
I am sick & tired of following a team that is always struggling in to a head wind.

We have been the most inefficient team in the comp for a decade under Scott, based on an input to output ratio.

It's just the same clunky inefficient eye sore every year, and I'm over it. I want us to get flogged on Friday night in order to usher in a new era and refresh my interest in the game, because the current path is a long, slow choking experience.

Seriously, who in here is going to be enthused to any greater extent if we win 8 of the next 17? It will be an even more depressing scenario for me, because I have zero faith in the current regime taking us all the way now, and such a result may actually prolong this unbearable Chinese water torture.

I am far from alone in this thinking, as my view is that the fans have officially checked out..
 

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Our midfield will get slaughtered if we don't change it up. Too many ball hunters break down our structure around the ball which Is why we miss Jacobs so much.

We should have 2 ball hunters and a defensive mid in the centre bounces. Goldy should be creating paths, using his weight to block, tackle and scramble the ball out to our outside mids because he has good hands in the contest. We need to know how to play free form when things aren't going our way.

We play like robots. In fact until we change i will be referring to us as the North Melbourne Robots.

I think we will put in a good effort this week but eventually Port will nullify our strengths and we will sit their like stunned mullets wondering what to do.

Todays game is about thinking on your feet, first option footy, anticipate and adapt. What our coach teaches is your role in the game plan so our ability to respond is rately going to occur.

Empower the players and play to their individual strengths while sticking to a game ethos.

Tell me this, how do you perform at your best, under a micro or macro manager?
 

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When is the last time Atley for example, immediately played on and went for a run and bounce ? seems like the 1st option now (almost team wide) is the 15m chip kick backwards,or quick handball to any team mate within 2m, way too defense oriented for a player with his skill set, game plan has almost removed all pro attacking moves from the playbook.
Just on Atley, i still remember watching his TAC cup highlights thinking this kids got a bit of Chris Judd about him in the way he could shrug a tackle and burst away from a stoppage.

Then he met Scotts
 

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Serious question if you could take one of these which would it be, 100+ point loss but Scott goes or a backs to the wall win and a chance to get your season back on track which would you take.

There are many similar thoughts going around in regards to Hinkley.

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Serious question if you could take one of these which would it be, 100+ point loss but Scott goes or a backs to the wall win and a chance to get your season back on track which would you take.

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If it actually was the start of a genuine turnaround in approach from Scott and the club, I'd take that. I suspect he doesn't have that change in him, but if he did I would be ok with him staying and driving a better direction. I guess I'd like to see some decisive events one way or another, not just drifting on, occasionally sparking.
 

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Serious question if you could take one of these which would it be, 100+ point loss but Scott goes or a backs to the wall win and a chance to get your season back on track which would you take.

There are many similar thoughts going around in regards to Hinkley.
My honest wish is the 100 point belting, because there is no chance of any meaningful resurrection as things currently stand.

We are going in circles with one foot nailed to the floor.

Mate, we have been through a lot since our last crack at anything, that the average outsider just wouldn't consider.

- Stevens nearly getting killed
- The stunning Carey saga and departure which almost destroyed the club
- The slow grind of the Laidley era
- The terrible luck and choices with drafting and trading during his era
- The very near miss with exctinction in 2007
- The beltings we had to endure during Scotts first rebuild
- Finally teasing, but never really becoming a convincing contender between 2013-2015.
- The massive injury toll occurring in 2016, when I actually thought we were a realistic chance of winning a flag
- The whole set up imploding and requiring another rebuild at the end of 2016
- The predictable lull of 2017
- The surprising fight back of 2018, and the great drafting & trading period at the end of that season.
- The whole thing falling flat on it's face and the season finished by round 5 of this season.

We go through all of this in the knowledge that the executioner is always one step behind us with his axe at the ready.

We are the shell shocked world war one veterans of the AFL, and it's starting to take it's toll with people like myself and others who I know that absolutely bleed blue and white. It's starting to wear us down.
 
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Serious question if you could take one of these which would it be, 100+ point loss but Scott goes or a backs to the wall win and a chance to get your season back on track which would you take.

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Why are you guys so down on Hinkley? You've played some pretty compelling football, worked the draft well and worked in plenty of kids who are contributing.

As for your question well of course it'd be the latter but the key is the use of "back on track". To me that means into serious premiership contention for the foreseeable future, lets say like where Richmond are sitting.

If "back on track" just means getting off the bottom and up to anywhere from 7th-15th, probably the former.
 
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I watched a replay of the first half of the Bombers game last night. I know I’m clutching at straws here but it looked to me that we just need something to kickstart us and we’ll be a different proposition entirely. For a start, we need to start kicking through the ball to get some penetration going. 14 metre sideways/back kicks should only be used in emergencies. If we’re going to turn the ball over, let’s do it aggressively, at least. Same goes with goal-kicking. We seem to be nursing our kicks.


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If it actually was the start of a genuine turnaround in approach from Scott and the club, I'd take that. I suspect he doesn't have that change in him, but if he did I would be ok with him staying and driving a better direction. I guess I'd like to see some decisive events one way or another, not just drifting on, occasionally sparking.
So which is it, H2H?

A 100+ flogging with Scotty sacked or the win?
 

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I watched a replay of the first half of the Bombers game last night. I know I’m clutching at straws here but it looked to me that we just need something to kickstart us and we’ll be a different proposition entirely. For a start, we need to start kicking through the ball to get some penetration going. 14 metre sideways/back kicks should only be used in emergencies. If we’re going to turn the ball over, let’s do it aggressively, at least. Same goes with goal-kicking.


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I don't think it's clutching. We've seen the same players do so much better - last year against Hawks, Richmond, Sydney and so many other games, so they can't have all become rubbish so quickly.
 

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If it actually was the start of a genuine turnaround in approach from Scott and the club, I'd take that. I suspect he doesn't have that change in him, but if he did I would be ok with him staying and driving a better direction. I guess I'd like to see some decisive events one way or another, not just drifting on, occasionally sparking.
This X100.

I think we are all over it.
 
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So many people say they love this club, yet when we hit some headwinds the same people start spouting rubbish that they want us to lose so the coach goes blah blah blah

Frankly I never want us to lose, not for a second, not ever, not even if it meant losing a No1 draft pick

that is not us

so those who call themselves "supporters" , harden the F*** up, stop acting like Tigers fans on steroids and start supporting your team
 
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So which is it, H2H?

A 100+ flogging with Scotty sacked or the win?
The win if it it is based on a different approach, which is then sustained. Of course. A Buckley/Hardwick type shift in style and results than is launched by a masive underdog win at our graveyard? Every day of the week.

Last week really should have been 100+ points. Felt like it and I hated it. I don't think getting walloped away by Port is going to hurt anyone at or supporting the club as much as last week did (and I give you R1 as Exhibit A). He turns it around or that will turn out to have been the catalyst for the club making the change.
 

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The win if it it is based on a different approach, which is then sustained. Of course. A Buckley/Hardwick type shift in style and results than is launched by a masive underdog win at our graveyard? Every day of the week.
You're referring to a 50 year storm. A freak event. It's no reasonable analysis.

We need to bring sustained results very soon or I truly fear we will be back on the block.
 

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Why are you guys so down on Hinkley? You've played some pretty compelling football, worked the draft well and worked in plenty of kids who are contributing.

As for your question well of course it'd be the latter but the key is the use of "back on track". To me that means into serious premiership contention for the foreseeable future, lets say like where Richmond are sitting.

If "back on track" just means getting off the bottom and up to anywhere from 7th-15th, probably the former.
Probably because they had a year like ours last year or even like our 2016. Lost 6 of their last 7 games to put them out of finals contention after being on top. Lost 3 games under a goal over the last half of the year (won 2 under a goal at the start). Year before were out of finals in r1 by 2 points at home to WC who scraped into the 8 by half a percentage point.
 

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I watched a replay of the first half of the Bombers game last night. I know I’m clutching at straws here but it looked to me that we just need something to kickstart us and we’ll be a different proposition entirely. For a start, we need to start kicking through the ball to get some penetration going. 14 metre sideways/back kicks should only be used in emergencies. If we’re going to turn the ball over, let’s do it aggressively, at least. Same goes with goal-kicking. We seem to be nursing our kicks.


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Fear of turnovers.
 

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Probably because they had a year like ours last year or even like our 2016. Lost 6 of their last 7 games to put them out of finals contention after being on top. Lost 3 games under a goal over the last half of the year (won 2 under a goal at the start). Year before were out of finals in r1 by 2 points at home to WC who scraped into the 8 by half a percentage point.
Port fans have the luxury of being recession proof, and don't encounter anywhere near the emotional toll that we all do. They can always look forward, whereas we always have one eye fixed backwards, checking out for how close the hell hounds are looming up on our heels.
 
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