Review Round 7, 2023 - Brisbane Lions vs. Fremantle

[Tom14]

Expected score ladder after round 7 -




Main takeaway for me is that the Saints have been very lucky with their opponent's conversion rate; and the Dees are massively performing over expectation in both offense and defense.

 

[Mr Ripper]

A bit long winded, but a good review nevertheless.

Well done on reaching the end!

 

[Gadzorks]

People seem to begrudge Lester getting a game and almost wilfully ignore his contribution yesterday.

Compare Lester with Starcevich yesterday to see what I mean.

Lester: 13 Disposals with 84% Efficiency, 4 Marks, 2 Tackles, 1 Clearance, 0 i50, 148 metres gained.

Starcevich: 13 Disposals with 76% Efficiency, 3 Marks, 1 Tackle, 1 Clearance, 2 i50, 115 metres gained.

Lester +1 on marks, +1 on tackles, -2 on i50, +33 on metres gained and +8% on Disposal Efficiency.

Additionally, Lester racked up more one on one spoils as he went the fist. Upshot?
19 people say Starcevich was in our top 5 players / while 7 say Lester was. On the back of his performance people are also calling for Lester to be dropped. Makes no sense. Massive exercise in group think.

I love Lester but not a direct apple for apple comparison.

Starc was on a harder opposition player.

 

[Elixuh]

We're all winners!!

FFS, we are meant to be a professional football club and Bailey and Cam are eating big macs.

 

[M Malice]

Don’t push me I’m unhinged

 

[dlanod]

FFS, we are meant to be a professional football club and Bailey and Cam are eating big macs.

It's an older reference, sir, but it checks out.

 

[bato]

I was a little confused with the Answerth sub. What role was he playing? Wonder what they’re trying to do with him - perhaps mould him into a mid/hf?

 

[Nathan Barley]

I was a little confused with the Answerth sub. What role was he playing? Wonder what they’re trying to do with him - perhaps mould him into a mid/hf?

Has been playing midfield very well in the reserves

 

[NeverEddie]

In Rugby if you tackle a player while they’re jumping it’s a straight up red card.

Yeah, I agree that dangerous acts in tackles need to be controlled, but I don't think landing in the back is actually dangerous. Basically every second open play run down tackle in rugby league is in the back. It does not cause injuries. If you rundown someone from behind and land on top of them . . .it's not dangeous, it's just a darn good tackle and should be rewarded not penalised.

Tunnelling, hip drops, slings, head highs, cannon ball, shoulder charges . . .they're all dangerous and are, rightly, outlawed. In the back in a tackle is nothing.

 

[dlanod]

Yeah, I agree that dangerous acts in tackles need to be controlled, but I don't think landing in the back is actually dangerous. Basically every second open play run down tackle in rugby league is in the back. It does not cause injuries. If you rundown someone from behind and land on top of them . . .it's not dangeous, it's just a darn good tackle and should be rewarded not penalised.

Tunnelling, hip drops, slings, head highs, cannon ball, shoulder charges . . .they're all dangerous and are, rightly, outlawed. In the back in a tackle is nothing.

It was introduced to protect marking players, because they have no real way to protect themselves. Been around forever. It'd be tricky to try to extract it from just the tackle definition versus marking/rucking.

 

[Dalions]

 

[Scubaveg]

I think we need bigger intelligence, bigger desperation and bigger tank, all of which Lester has over Joyce.
If people care to look at Joyce’s numbers for the GWS game, they were poor, only 7 disposals and zero tackles.

How do you block people?


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[3KZ is Football]

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[M Malice]

Coaches votes-​

Brisbane v Fremantle​

10 Lachie Neale

9

Lachie Neale

Age

30

Ht

178cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

(BL)
7 Will Ashcroft (BL)
5 Oscar McInerney

46

Oscar Mcinerney

Age

29

Ht

204cm

Wt

110kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.1

2star

K

4.1

2star

HB

3.9

3star

CL

1.4

4star

HO

14.3

5star

D

6.9

1star

K

4.1

2star

HB

2.7

2star

CL

1.9

4star

HO

16.4

5star

D

7.6

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.6

3star

CL

0.4

3star

HO

11.2

5star

(BL)
3 Brandon Starcevich

37

Brandon Starcevich

Age

24

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

(BL)
3 Dayne Zorko

15

Dayne Zorko

Age

35

Ht

175cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.4

5star

K

13.2

5star

HB

8.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

6.0

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

5.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

5.0

5star

CL

2.0

4star

D

16.4

4star

K

9.8

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

6.6

5star

CL

1.2

4star

(BL)
2 Josh Dunkley

5

Josh Dunkley

Age

27

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

(BL)
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I watched the game again this morning and was struck with how good Starcevich was, has been down on his best this season, fantastic to see him hit some form.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Coaches votes-​

Brisbane v Fremantle​

10 Lachie Neale (BL)
7 Will Ashcroft (BL)
5 Oscar McInerney (BL)
3 Brandon Starcevich (BL)
3 Dayne Zorko (BL)
2 Josh Dunkley (BL)
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I watched the game again this morning and was struck with our good Starcevich was, has been down on his best this season, fantastic to see him hit some form.

Silly coaches forgot about Lester

 

[Dalions]

Silly coaches forgot about Lester

Hard to believe they had Starce ahead of Lester

 

[Nunez]

Coaches votes-​

Brisbane v Fremantle​

10 Lachie Neale (BL)
7 Will Ashcroft (BL)
5 Oscar McInerney (BL)
3 Brandon Starcevich (BL)
3 Dayne Zorko (BL)
2 Josh Dunkley (BL)
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I watched the game again this morning and was struck with how good Starcevich was, has been down on his best this season, fantastic to see him hit some form.

Has he though? Beat Green & Walters. Beat Fritsch pre blackout. Performef against the Dogs. Bobby Hill had little influence.

If anything, he's had an underrated season.

 

[Big Sauce 21]

He's had a good month, similar to the team. Was down early.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

FFS, we are meant to be a professional football club and Bailey and Cam are eating big macs.

I don't care if the players are promoting drugs as long as the club gets paid.

 

[Brett C]

It’s easy. I just did it to your account. So you don’t have to be confronted with views that are ‘unorthodox’, click on my name and click on “Ignore”.

Absolutely childish comment but shame I think you’ve already blocked me.

 

[martinson]

Has he though? Beat Green & Walters. Beat Fritsch pre blackout. Performef against the Dogs. Bobby Hill had little influence.

If anything, he's had an underrated season.

I think he hasn't been as clean with his marking and with the ball in hand as he has been in prior years and that's led people to believe he's not going well.

Last week he was starting to take clean one grab overhead marks.

 

[Elixuh]

Has he though? Beat Green & Walters. Beat Fritsch pre blackout. Performef against the Dogs. Bobby Hill had little influence.

If anything, he's had an underrated season.

Defending a man he has still been very good. But to my eye he has been rusty re his ability to take a contested mark + ball use hasn't been as good (haven't confirmed this against stats).

 

[Nunez]

Defending a man he has still been very good. But to my eye he has been rusty re his ability to take a contested mark + ball use hasn't been as good (haven't confirmed this against stats).

Yeah would definitely agree his intercept marking has improved the past fortnight.

 

[BuntonRules]

Surprised there is not more love for Oscar in the votes.

Review - Round 7, 2023 - Brisbane Lions vs. Fremantle

Expected score ladder after round 7 - Main takeaway for me is that the Saints have been very lucky with their opponent's conversion rate; and the Dees are massively performing over expectation in both offense and defense.

www.bigfooty.com

I rest my case

 

[Gadzorks]

I don't care if the players are promoting drugs as long as the club gets paid.

Yeah... I do.