Discussion Round 7 Discussion (dedicated to Andrew Birch)

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WaynesWorld19

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I said it looks like a winning move. I didn't say I suggested it. I should be clearer. for anyone that has a fwd/ ruck dpp donut, it only requires one trade. ROB is the 2nd highest averaging rookie this year. If I had the chance to trade in a Fyfe for a Goldstein, for example, it gets a 94 averaging rookie on the field, and a 60 averaging rookie off the field, while the premos are close to like for like.

Gawn has outscored Fyfe by 12ppg, but ROB has outscored most other rookies by at least 25ppg.
The interesting aspect is, there's only 13% ROB ownership .....does that surprise everyone .....I'm amazed more didn't jump on, given his first 2 scores were 85 & 84 .....it was probably due to his supposed shaky JS

But of that 13% ownership, how many went R3 versus R2 ?? .....I'd suggest, because of the JS , most went R3
 

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Excellent discussion guys Andrew Birch .....if I had the want, I'd do a spreadsheet comparison of the different scenarios over the last 3 weeks (hint) ......but Andrew hit the nail, it depends very much on who you traded out & traded in

If you used ROB on-field to bring in Whitfield / Heeney / Seagull ....there's a short term analysis & longterm analysis to be viewed ....obviously the short term maynot have provided the advantage sought

However, as ROB keeps rising in price, the $$ gap required to get Gawn back in, won't be as great as anticipated

I still take the view ....ROB on R3, is great for my byes, & covers (saves trade) if there's an injury .......plus using ROB's $$$ during the bye, IMO will give me a greater advantage
Great for byes yes, but what do you do after round 14? Trade him out for a premo and put Bines back at R3, but we are almost obliged to trade him to a FWD/ Ruck DPP otherwise we are losing coverage if either of Gawndy get injured. None of them are setting the world on fire this year.
 

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The interesting aspect is, there's only 13% ROB ownership .....does that surprise everyone .....I'm amazed more didn't jump on, given his first 2 scores were 85 & 84 .....it was probably due to his supposed shaky JS

But of that 13% ownership, how many went R3 versus R2 ?? .....I'd suggest, because of the JS , most went R3
I'm surprised by the low ownership too. It was known before his 3rd game that Sauce was out for 6 weeks. Seemed a no brainer for me.
 

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Great for byes yes, but what do you do after round 14? Trade him out for a premo and put Bines back at R3, but we are almost obliged to trade him to a FWD/ Ruck DPP otherwise we are losing coverage if either of Gawndy get injured. None of them are setting the world on fire this year.
Trade ROB out after he covers for Gawn/Grundy's R13 bye .....thinking hard of bringing a cheap Westhoff this week to give that injury coverage (loop) for any injuries
 

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I'm surprised by the low ownership too. It was known before his 3rd game that Sauce was out for 6 weeks. Seemed a no brainer for me.
How many Rookies have scored 84 & 85 in the first 2 games & not had every coach pounce on them ......his JS was better than Hately, who has scored similarly ??
 

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Great for byes yes, but what do you do after round 14? Trade him out for a premo and put Bines back at R3, but we are almost obliged to trade him to a FWD/ Ruck DPP otherwise we are losing coverage if either of Gawndy get injured. None of them are setting the world on fire this year.
I'm more inclined to sideways ROB > Hoff when their prices merge (if Hoff can keeps scoring 90+) as either one can cover Gawndy in Rd13 but can also cover a forward in Rd14 as well as being a F6 or F7 loophole option if that trade was to occur in 2-3 weeks time.
 

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Trade ROB out after he covers for Gawn/Grundy's R13 bye .....thinking hard of bringing a cheap Westhoff this week to give that injury coverage (loop) for any injuries
I'm more inclined to sideways ROB > Hoff when their prices merge (if Hoff can keeps scoring 90+) as either one can cover Gawndy in Rd13 but can also cover a forward in Rd14 as well as being a F6 or F7 loophole option if that trade was to occur in 2-3 weeks time.
Yeah Hoff is really the only viable option. I'd feel sick trading out ROB after round 13 and not have ruck coverage.
 

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I'm surprised by the low ownership too. It was known before his 3rd game that Sauce was out for 6 weeks. Seemed a no brainer for me.
I think it's Gawndy being probably 35-40% of teams - a lot of those would have baulked at the double trade for rookie on a bench. Even of those who were running Bines at R3 not all would have made the trade - a lot might not wanted to risk no forward cover or Balta as forward cover.

Plus bubble was R5 so a lot were probably trying to fix a rookie/midpricer fu** up.

Glad I went him though, pray he plays until his bye.
 

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I'm more inclined to sideways ROB > Hoff when their prices merge (if Hoff can keeps scoring 90+) as either one can cover Gawndy in Rd13 but can also cover a forward in Rd14 as well as being a F6 or F7 loophole option if that trade was to occur in 2-3 weeks time.
Sounds good! Gives us time to see if Hoff's score has improved. Ideally Hoff comes in this week with his low BE and decent 3 game average (89), but with the potential double downgrade looking so good this week, just can't do it.
 

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Sounds good! Gives us time to see if Hoff's score has improved. Ideally Hoff comes in this week with his low BE and decent 3 game average (89), but with the potential double downgrade looking so good this week, just can't do it.
Is anyone else doing a double upgrade this week or is it just me?
 

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Is anyone else doing a double upgrade this week or is it just me?
Double upgrade? How much money do you have in your Warchest?

Looking at next week. Don't see any rookies that will be on the bubble besides Marsh/Stocker and they both look underwhelming.

Could be double down and double up play next week.
 

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Is anyone else doing a double upgrade this week or is it just me?
Will depend on rookie selections this week for me. If Answerth and Hately are named i'll take both. If neither are named it will be a double up for me (Libba and Brouch for Fyfe and Telly). If one of them are named then I've just gotta work out which one out of Fyfe and Telly I need to get first.
 

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Will depend on rookie selections this week for me. If Answerth and Hately are named i'll take both. If neither are named it will be a double up for me (Libba and Brouch for Fyfe and Telly). If one of them are named then I've just gotta work out which one out of Fyfe and Telly I need to get first.
Brouch > Telly is sideways really.
 

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You kents taught me all you know, I've never got advice any other board than this one from you lads.
So I'd say my current rank is just as much yours as mine brother.
I can just see it now, it's Rd23 and Hairy Lasoo is Ranked #5 overall without any trades or many POD's between him and the other top10 teams when halfway through the round he switches his captain and lets it all ride by putting the big C on Hurn who scores a round high 189x2 and 50k in the pussah for Hai_Newman :eek:
 

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Brouch > Telly is sideways really.
Yeah probably but mid rooks are scoring better than forward rooks. At least it gets another forward rook off the field. Brouch is frustrating the crap out of me. I'm gonna take a big step back this week if both the rooks are named. I'll be going Libba and Brouch to the two rooks, giving me a massive warchest for upgrades in coming weeks.
 
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