Autopsy Round 8, 2025: Positives and Negatives vs Melbourne

[SAweagle]

Sorry matey, good to hear about the state of traffic controllers in some land called Souf Astrayya. Matey.

No worries mate always happy to help

 

[Seadog]

Think you've got your job descriptions mixed up matey

I was referring to these characters

Someone who can't wait 3 minutes at some roadworks without blowing a gasket isn't going to make it through a lengthy rebuild of our footy team.
You should check out for a couple of years.

 

[SAweagle]

Someone who can't wait 3 minutes at some roadworks without blowing a gasket isn't going to make it through a lengthy rebuild of our footy team.
You should check out for a couple of years.

Someone who can't control traffic shouldn't be in a traffic controllers position

Check out? I think not.

I'll double down like big simmo with the credits crew after 2018.

 

[Smotie2]

Stuck in the past when the bloke who led us into the darkness is there literally the next season telling us how to fix things and what's gone wrong.

Nobody is saying it's entirely his fault but good god have some self awareness man, just **** off to Melbourne for a few years and once we are on the up he would be welcomed back with open arms.

Well I don't know about the welcomed back part.

 

[SAweagle]

Well I don't know about the welcomed back part.

After the next flag all is forgotten and forgiven.

Think of it as a cooling off period Adam if you're reading all this fire and fury and perhaps feeling slightly nonplussed about it all.

 

[jesterwester]

Did you notice how players like Kelly, Cripps, Duggan, Cole and Hunt were moving around?

Cripps got a pass mark for mine, as did hunt.

Kelly had a little purple patch in the second quarter where he looked to be involved but if you told me he wasn’t playing I’d have believed you. Clearly injured, or, perhaps worse- picking and choosing when to apply effort.

Duggan I feel genuinely loves the club, but captaincy is burdening him. Was under an injury cloud, I read somewhere and that would line up to how he played. Cole was largely unsighted in the last half, but in fairness the ball largely was kicked over his head.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Harley Reid.

Irrespective of me stating: "I've been told that he wants out", who doesn't, let's call a few things out.

* Is this year the 2nd year blues? Happens to many many players

* I felt completely uncomfortable regarding the talks of $2M a year. Thats a recipe for disaster and gets us to Collingwood levels of offloading a player later, for a bad pick and paying most of their salary.

* Harley coming back unfit and overweight from the off-season needs to be called out. Standards no matter who you are. But not through the media, rather its behind closed doors.

* Quite possibly he needs a spell in the WAFL... But the optics and media frenzy would be insane. Still, if we want standards.....

 

[Jandamarra]

Cripps got a pass mark for mine, as did hunt.

Kelly had a little purple patch in the second quarter where he looked to be involved but if you told me he wasn’t playing I’d have believed you. Clearly injured, or, perhaps worse- picking and choosing when to apply effort.

Duggan I feel genuinely loves the club, but captaincy is burdening him. Was under an injury cloud, I read somewhere and that would line up to how he played. Cole was largely unsighted in the last half, but in fairness the ball largely was kicked over his head.

Cole was sub which may explain why he was unsighted in the first half

 

[jesterwester]

Cole was sub which may explain why he was unsighted in the first half

Haha yes I did know that.

Was saying he was unsighted in the last half, the one he actually played.

 

[Jandamarra]

Haha yes I did know that.

Was saying he was unsighted in the last half, the one he actually played.

Right, missed that

 

[BartBart]

Can’t say enough about Reuben Ginbey.

Top ten draft pick as a mid and is slogging his guts out in the backline, where the ball comes down at least 50 times a game.

He’s not perfect but he seeks out every contest and has no regard for his wellbeing.

I thought he got drafted as a Defender and then the club claimed he was a Def/Mid.

 

[Dark Sharks]

I thought he got drafted as a Defender and then the club claimed he was a Def/Mid.

Not really.

If you told me we'd picked up the AA ruckman and follower in our draft yet 3 years later the midfielder was now playing off the HBF and the ruckman is non competitive at all levels of football and likely to be delisted, i'd have called bullshit.

To be fair most of us would've been stoked to draft Clark in the guts yet he still hasn't hit his straps at AFL level either.

 

[BartBart]

Not really.

If you told me we'd picked up the AA ruckman and follower in our draft yet 3 years later the mid was now playing off the HBF and the ruckman is non competitive at all levels of football and likely to be delisted, i'd have called bullshit.


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Pretty sure in the split pick that Ginbey went into the draft as a Def, Hewett as a Fwd and then when the club announced them after drafting they became listed as a Def/Mid and Fwd/Mid respectively.

So Ginbey returning back to a defender (and doing well there) was unsurprising.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Pretty sure in the split pick that Ginbey went into the draft as a Def, Hewett as a Fwd and then when the club announced them after drafting they became listed as a Def/Mid and Fwd/Mid respectively.

So Ginbey returning back to a defender (and doing well there) was unsurprising.

This is not what happened. Both were drafted as mids.

Hewey was an out and out mid.

Ginbey was a defender until half way through the champs when they put him on the midfield. He excelled and that's why he was in the 5-10 range on draft day.

 

[new breed]

Positives - Not too bad were competitive for most of Match.

Negatives - Cannot play the game-plan needs to be revised , haven't got the players to implement just play the WA way.

 

[BSD]

Nisbett was the biggest issue anyway.

Didn't want to spend the money to bring in a list manager after Glass and just half-assed the job between himself and RoB.

He could have sacked Toddy and taken a pay cut himself and we would then have been able to afford a list manager.

 

[KERRPOW]

Hough out of the mids please

We've taken the next Corey Enright and tried to turn him into a mid when we have Tom Gross running around in the magoos

Alarm bells will ring when we see hough lining up in the forward pocket

 

[KERRPOW]

Bit hard to leave Simpson "in the past" when he's constantly rolled out each home game to tell us how shit we are and what we should be doing instead.

Just like the Barrass to FF move, this just rubs salt in the wound when fans are clearly fatigued.

Thats the best way to describe it.

Even when we got back in the came.and hit the lead. Its an empty feeling knowing we will still get overun.

 

[bzparkes]

He could have sacked Toddy and taken a pay cut himself and we would then have been able to afford a list manager.

Why? Todd's actually supposed to be good at his job, hence him keeping his whilst a bunch of the others were let go.

 

[ukurrie]

I thought he got drafted as a Defender and then the club claimed he was a Def/Mid.

Whatever he was, the club picked him as a mid.

Draft wrap: Eagles' bold move pays off

The West Coast Eagles recruited two powerful young midfielders on the opening night of the 2022 NAB AFL Draft

www.westcoasteagles.com.au

 

[unty11]

* Quite possibly he needs a spell in the WAFL... But the optics and media frenzy would be insane. Still, if we want standards.....

Agree with everything you said except this. He's been played at half back for the majority of the season with short spells at centre bounces. Only last week and this has he been playing on ball and resting forward. Last week he got ~18 possessions and 2 goals. This week he was poor because he gets the number one tag.

Young players are inconsistent they have a decent game and then a poor one. That's why you stick fat and keep playing them because they will improve much better at afl level than at wafl level and become more consistent.

Also what happened to 3 to 5 week blocks where young guys were given a chance to grow and pick up the speed of afl? With mini you play one poor game you are out of the squad see Clay Hall. Don't get it.

 

[Boohemian]

Our current predicament is all Simmos fault. He shouldn't have kept us playing finals year after year, and making 2x Grand Finals. It's completely kept us from rejuvenating our list over a ten year period

It's all his fault for the dud drafting and recruitment decisions too.

 

[BSD]

Why? Todd's actually supposed to be good at his job, hence him keeping his whilst a bunch of the others were let go.

He's involved in recruiting/talent scout and what a great job the clubs done in that area are over the last
10 years.
All we've got to show for our efforts is a sack of spuds that no one else wanted.
Tony Galati would have done a better job of spud selection.

 

[eaglesfan84]

I think we’ve got bigger problems than Graham’s defensive pressure
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Today Graham's efforts were the big problem, you can't just ignore, or you can at your own peril which we've clearly been doing for the past 5 years and look where it's gotten us

 

[eaglesfan84]

I'm not at games often but here's a few things that stood to me from the stands...

*Maric was not great at all despite apparently having 26 disposals. Was a lost chicken tonight.
*Graham's kicking is actually so ****ing bad. Maybe it's this bad every week but it stood out a hell of a lot more tonight.
*TK appears to do everything he can to avoid opposition players or any physical contact.
*I see some people praising Oscar Allen's game but he looked like a fish out of water in defence all night.

But what stood out the most was the fact Melbourne would have free players at every contest somehow. There'd be a 3v2, we'd halve it or get the ball forward, and then another 3v2 would happen. Where the **** are our extra guys hiding? I only counted one time that we had an extra at any point.

This is pretty spot on, also the fat farm for Reid idea is good, he should have been sent away pre season, there's no standard's at the club from top to bottom.