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tribey said:
That's going a bit far.

Brisbane, WSW and Melbourne Victory would probably fancy themselves against Fleetwood Town or Morecambe, just loudly.
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In my honest opinion.
Put top A-League teams in the English divisions and at best they are near bottom of the table in League 1.
Bottom A-League teams I'd say would struggle to stay in league 2.
Portsmouth are broke and they would still probs beat Adelaide United.
 
RossFC said:
In my honest opinion.
Put top A-League teams in the English divisions and at best they are near bottom of the table in League 1.
Bottom A-League teams I'd say would struggle to stay in league 2.
Portsmouth are broke and they would still probs beat Adelaide United.
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There's obviously no way of ever knowing, but whenever I used to wonder just how relatively strong Adelaide City were back in the day you'd consider things like Craig Foster going on to have a solid career for Pompey in the Championship, Tony Vidmar becoming a stalwart for Rangers and Middlesbrough, Aurelio Vidmar going on to be leading scorer in Switzerland, Carl Veart knocking Arsenal out of the FA Cup with a diving header at Brammall Lane, a young John Aloisi going on to score topflight goals in Spain, Italy and England, and so on.

Now while quite a few academy kids get snaffled from the bowels of the football league, it's incredibly rare for a rusted-on first teamer of the Veart-Foster-Vidmar ilk to have the quality to make such a step up in that manner.

Fast forward 20 years with professionalism, marquee players and readily measurable Asian Champions League opponents, I just can't see the < League Two thing flying.
 
tribey said:
There's obviously no way of ever knowing, but whenever I used to wonder just how relatively strong Adelaide City were back in the day you'd consider things like Craig Foster going on to have a solid career for Pompey in the Championship, Tony Vidmar becoming a stalwart for Rangers and Middlesbrough, Aurelio Vidmar going on to be leading scorer in Switzerland, Carl Veart knocking Arsenal out of the FA Cup with a diving header at Brammall Lane, a young John Aloisi going on to score topflight goals in Spain, Italy and England, and so on.

Now while quite a few academy kids get snaffled from the bowels of the football league, it's incredibly rare for a rusted-on first teamer of the Veart-Foster-Vidmar ilk to have the quality to make such a step up in that manner.

Fast forward 20 years with professionalism, marquee players and readily measurable Asian Champions League opponents, I just can't see the < League Two thing flying.
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Milan Ivanovic, Alex Tobin and Damien Mori were also fairly good players during that period.
 

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tribey said:
There's obviously no way of ever knowing, but whenever I used to wonder just how relatively strong Adelaide City were back in the day you'd consider things like Craig Foster going on to have a solid career for Pompey in the Championship, Tony Vidmar becoming a stalwart for Rangers and Middlesbrough, Aurelio Vidmar going on to be leading scorer in Switzerland, Carl Veart knocking Arsenal out of the FA Cup with a diving header at Brammall Lane, a young John Aloisi going on to score topflight goals in Spain, Italy and England, and so on.

Now while quite a few academy kids get snaffled from the bowels of the football league, it's incredibly rare for a rusted-on first teamer of the Veart-Foster-Vidmar ilk to have the quality to make such a step up in that manner.

Fast forward 20 years with professionalism, marquee players and readily measurable Asian Champions League opponents, I just can't see the < League Two thing flying.
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That Zoran Matic 10 year coach era was a golden era. Even a few years before he was appointed coach and when he was still playing. The club had money, great players and was forward looking. It won 3 titles and was runner up twice.

It was the first Australian team to look to Asia as the future of Australian soccer and the opportunities Asia had for the club. On dozens of occasions under the Matic era I heard Johnny Warren praise Adelaide City as the most forward looking and well run club in the country.

But the club ended up in the death spiral of the ASF's problems and NSL competition dieing as a result. The game started to get itself into trouble with players going overseas, poor administration, ethic community club problems, no growth in revenues, no TV rights deals, poor administration at the national level the income stream of the NSL and the club started drying up. A couple of millionaires decided to bail out the club, started taking more control, turning it into their own personal club, and whilst losing a couple of million of dollars a year it started becoming an Italian community club, and in the end basically controlled and financed by one bloke, Bob D'Ottavi.
 
Lampard and Terry will probably end up in the US given Chelsea's large following there. They will surely be offered more money and the opportunity to play in a higher profile league than A-League will be too good of an opportunity for them.

Pirlo is probably a more realistic chance if he's offered decent coin. He's at the twilight of his career but could still go on at top level for a few more years given that Italian clubs tend to play their players until they're no longer able to walk without a walking stick.
 
Manchester City just bought 80% of Melbourne Heart, with Melbourne Storm controlling 20%. I think the owners might have found some spare change behind the sofa cushion.
 
Janus said:
Manchester City just bought 80% of Melbourne Heart, with Melbourne Storm controlling 20%. I think the owners might have found some spare change behind the sofa cushion.
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Not being au fait with A-League, can someone give me a summary of why this would happen?
Seems a very strange mix of bedfellows.
 
City did the same thing with the new New York MLS club - 20% is owned by the Yankees. I guess they want some local knowledge on the board.
 
bomberclifford said:
Not being au fait with A-League, can someone give me a summary of why this would happen?
Seems a very strange mix of bedfellows.
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Manchester City and the NY Yankees back in May went into a partnership to set up a new NY soccer team in the MLS for 2015 season and call the team New York City FC. read about it at

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/22/s...ranchise-in-new-york.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Looks like its another 4:1 investement Man City investing $100mil and Yankees $25mil.

Man City is owned by Abu Dhabi United Group - and Investment Fund and headed up by a Shiek from Abu Dhabi Royal Family. This might be part of a larger investment strategy.

Eddie Dingle can probably tell you a lot more about the Abu Dhabi United Group
 
Surely investing in Melbourne Heat wouldn't be done for financial purposes.
Would they be able to leverage this in their talent spotting/recruitment?

Whatever the investment strategy involves, they're obviously on a major crusade to expose the Man City brand around the globe, which is impressive in its audacity. I can see some interesting parallels with Port too.
 

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bomberclifford said:
Surely investing in Melbourne Heat wouldn't be done for financial purposes.
Would they be able to leverage this in their talent spotting/recruitment?

Whatever the investment strategy involves, they're obviously on a major crusade to expose the Man City brand around the globe, which is impressive in its audacity. I can see some interesting parallels with Port too.
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This is what they said when they took over Man City in 2008. Remember the arabs are thinking long term and broader than a standard ROI which us westerns use to measure our investments. They know they will run out of oil one day and have no resources left so they are looking offshore and non traditional investments with a long term payoff. Invest in a Ozzie soccer team today get passed the Foreign Investment Review Board tomorrow when a controversial investment comes up.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.premierleague

According to Arabian Business, negotiations between City and Adug began three weeks ago and were completed last night at the Emirates Palace Hotel in Abu Dhabi. Al-Fahim said that Adug will clear any club debts and pending payments, and provide money to bring in some of the world's best players. He also hopes that in turn the deal will make Abu Dhabi more prominent in the world of sport and economics.

"We in Abu Dhabi United Company for Development and Investment are keen to develop ways to provide support and care for various sports activities to help build and develop a new generation of young State, which represents the real wealth and the future of this nation and the cornerstone for building the future of our civilisation," he said.
"As embodied in our mission to open new horizons in all kinds of sports, it will enable them to enjoy healthy body and mind, thanks to the lessons we have learned from the wise leadership in Abu Dhabi.

"We will adopt marketing plans that reflect positively on the club and the company from investments in all sectors of television marketing and purchasing of the stars players, as well as development of infrastructure facilities at the club."
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/sep/01/manchestercity.premierleague
 
Dylan8 said:
That'll be great for the Victory v Heart/City rivalry - two teams wearing blue
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Unlike the poorly and unprofessionally run AFL all clubs have three, yes three, strips to wear in case of potential clashes.

But navy blue and sky blue don't clash so there is no problem.
 
Eddie Dingle said:
Unlike the poorly and unprofessionally run AFL all clubs have three, yes three, strips to wear in case of potential clashes.

But navy blue and sky blue don't clash so there is no problem.
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Yeah but when do local rivalries have the same colours? Not that often. Looks better for them to be opposites ala Arsenal v Tottenham, Liverpool v Everton, Man City v Man Utd etc
 

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werner said:
Neat stuff...
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Just so you know, Christoh's opinion on soccer is certainly not the prevailing one on this board (although, I myself do agree with him). :p
 

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