Yeah but can he do thisHe's taken more marks in that package than Billy has taken in his lifetime
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Yeah but can he do thisHe's taken more marks in that package than Billy has taken in his lifetime
Yeah but can he do this
Look who were listed one after another on Foxsports "VFL Players" to watch in the draft. Was right in front of our eye's all the time!!!
Ben Long (Footscray)
Age: 19
Position: Small forward
2016 VFL average numbers: Rated elite for average goals (1.9), as well as above average for assists (1.1) and score involvements (4.7).
THE cousin of Cyril Rioli and a 19-year-old that has one year on most other draftees, Long represented the NT Thunder (Division 1 national champs) and the Allies (Division 2 national champs) before linking up with Footscray late in the VFL season. But it was in Footscray’s preliminary final win over Collingwood where Long genuinely announced himself, booting a team-high six goals from just nine kicks. After playing a key role in the Bulldogs’ VFL grand final win over Casey, Long was then invited to the national AFL draft combine, finishing equal-third in the field kicking test. In other areas, Long recorded a 13.6 in the beep test, as well as times of 10.52 in the 3km time trial, 3.03 seconds in the 20m sprint and 25.90 seconds in the repeat sprint test. An agile forward with great goal sense at 185cm, Long could also provide an AFL club with excellent pressure inside forward 50.
Rowan Marshall (North Ballarat)
Age: 21
Position: Ruckman/Key defender
2016 VFL average numbers: Averaged 15.4 disposals — the second most of any ruckman in the VFL. He also averaged 11 hit-outs and five intercepts per match.
A 203cm big man from New Zealand with a rugby background, Marshall looms as one of the most versatile and unique VFL prospects ahead of November’s drafts. He missed out on selection in his draft year (2014), but has developed significantly in the VFL over the past two years. After starting the 2016 season as the Roosters’ No. 1 ruckman, Marshall moved into a utility-style role, playing predominantly down back and sneaking forward to kick the occasional goal. He was then invited to the Victorian state combine where he showed off his athleticism, finishing with 13.1 in the beep test and a time of 3.11 seconds in the 20m sprint. He’s competitive in the ruck and an interceptor down back — a unique combination but one that potentially appeals to AFL recruiters.
A 200cm plus "key defender" - jeez they are getting tall!!!
Brilliant pickup pebsLook who were listed one after another on Foxsports "VFL Players" to watch in the draft. Was right in front of our eye's all the time!!!
Ben Long (Footscray)
Age: 19
Position: Small forward
2016 VFL average numbers: Rated elite for average goals (1.9), as well as above average for assists (1.1) and score involvements (4.7).
THE cousin of Cyril Rioli and a 19-year-old that has one year on most other draftees, Long represented the NT Thunder (Division 1 national champs) and the Allies (Division 2 national champs) before linking up with Footscray late in the VFL season. But it was in Footscray’s preliminary final win over Collingwood where Long genuinely announced himself, booting a team-high six goals from just nine kicks. After playing a key role in the Bulldogs’ VFL grand final win over Casey, Long was then invited to the national AFL draft combine, finishing equal-third in the field kicking test. In other areas, Long recorded a 13.6 in the beep test, as well as times of 10.52 in the 3km time trial, 3.03 seconds in the 20m sprint and 25.90 seconds in the repeat sprint test. An agile forward with great goal sense at 185cm, Long could also provide an AFL club with excellent pressure inside forward 50.
Rowan Marshall (North Ballarat)
Age: 21
Position: Ruckman/Key defender
2016 VFL average numbers: Averaged 15.4 disposals — the second most of any ruckman in the VFL. He also averaged 11 hit-outs and five intercepts per match.
A 203cm big man from New Zealand with a rugby background, Marshall looms as one of the most versatile and unique VFL prospects ahead of November’s drafts. He missed out on selection in his draft year (2014), but has developed significantly in the VFL over the past two years. After starting the 2016 season as the Roosters’ No. 1 ruckman, Marshall moved into a utility-style role, playing predominantly down back and sneaking forward to kick the occasional goal. He was then invited to the Victorian state combine where he showed off his athleticism, finishing with 13.1 in the beep test and a time of 3.11 seconds in the 20m sprint. He’s competitive in the ruck and an interceptor down back — a unique combination but one that potentially appeals to AFL recruiters.
A 200cm plus "key defender" - jeez they are getting tall!!!
Since when did Longer skip 3 years?Holmes, 27, 203cm
Longer, 26, 202cm
Pierce, 22, 202cm
Hickey, 25, 201cm
Marshall, 21, 201cm (r)
Carlisle, 25, 200cm
Bruce, 24, 197cm
Goddard, 20, 196cm
Brown, 28, 195cm
Coughlan, 20, 195cm (r)
10 players, 195cm+, none over 28. Think we'll be right for height for a while.
God I hope not. Blicavs is one of the reasons Geelong turn the ball over so much. Sure he's great at being 3rd man up for hitouts to advantage, but as a midfielder he's a liability as his skills are so bloody poor & he cannot read the game to save himselfMind you, going a different direction...
Given his versatility, tank, etc... do we play Marshall as a Blicavs type?
Since I misread the 6 months on footywireSince when did Longer skip 3 years?
Didn't he win a BnF?God I hope not. Blicavs is one of the reasons Geelong turn the ball over so much. Sure he's great at being 3rd man up for hitouts to advantage, but as a midfielder he's a liability as his skills are so bloody poor & he cannot read the game to save himself
Why would we delist hickey/Longer and not Pierce/Holmes?Beautiful kicking technique and soft hands for a 200cm Kiwi with a Rugby background. That alone tells us that he has a lot of scope for improvement, especially in an AFL system.
On a seperate note (as I don't see Marshall playing in the ruck) 2017 shapes as a very interesting year for Tom Hickey and Billy Longer... One of these two won't be at the club in 2018.
We wouldn't, we'd trade Hickey/Longer since they have more value than Pierce/HolmesWhy would we delist hickey/Longer and not Pierce/Holmes?
I think Moorabbin Ghost said that Paddy is now 195cm too.Holmes, 27, 203cm
Longer, 26, 202cm
Pierce, 22, 202cm
Hickey, 25, 201cm
Marshall, 21, 201cm (r)
Carlisle, 25, 200cm
Bruce, 24, 197cm
Goddard, 20, 196cm
Brown, 28, 195cm
Coughlan, 20, 195cm (r)
10 players, 195cm+, none over 28. Think we'll be right for height for a while.
Just three years ago the KPP/Ruck stocks were;Holmes, 27, 203cm
Longer, 26, 202cm
Pierce, 22, 202cm
Hickey, 25, 201cm
Marshall, 21, 201cm (r)
Carlisle, 25, 200cm
Bruce, 24, 197cm
Goddard, 20, 196cm
Brown, 28, 195cm
Coughlan, 20, 195cm (r)
10 players, 195cm+, none over 28. Think we'll be right for height for a while.
Just three years ago the KPP/Ruck stocks were;
Ben McEvoy
Beau Maister
Spencer White
Tom Lee
Tom Simpkin
Tom Hickey*
Lewis Pierce*
Jackson Ferguson
Rhys Stanley
Jeez I think I'm going to puke. Great turnaround.
. He’s competitive in the ruck and an interceptor down back — a unique combination but one that potentially appeals to AFL recruiters.
A 200cm plus "key defender" - jeez they are getting tall!!!
Think we are jumping the gun here.We wouldn't, we'd trade Hickey/Longer since they have more value than Pierce/Holmes
Having played against Marshall locally, he's got a loooooong way to go if he's to have an impact at AFL Level. While he does some things well, 3.11seconds over 20m doesn't make him overly athletic, that's a fair lumber to be honest.
He's got some nice qualities, reads the ball well and can use it well but had he not been playing for one of the worst VFL sides in the comp last year I'm not sure how much exposure he'd have received. It's only a rookie spot however, and he's a risk worth taking but gee it makes the upgrade of Holmes even more perplexing for 2017.
5 Ruckman on our list, 3 of which are very much developing and 1 which is limited by his inability to win/find the ball. Would have loved to have seen us throw a money ball mid a lifeline but that's just me. Good luck to the lad, I hope he can become a significant contributor to our next flag tilt.