Current Royal Commission into Lawyer X gangland convictions on tainted evidence & police corruption

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This transcript of when Mokbel tried to broker a deal to stop the gangland war has to be read to be believed. More interesting than the main points in the article is actually imo, the last paragraph. Here sprockets they do have it on tape.

But when it comes to Mokbel's deal that he wants to take to the then Director of Public Prosecutions, Paul Coghlan, the police aren't impressed.





It's in here https://www.rcmpi.vic.gov.au/MediaLibraries/RCManagementOfPoliceInformants/transcripts/RC0483b-Transcript-of-conversation-between-Mr-Anthony-Mokbel,-Mr-Emilio-Navarolli-et-al,-13-April-2004,-tendered-10-September-2019.pdf

I haven't read it yet but I will, for context.
 

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Seriously? Can this get any smuttier or more repulsive?

Melbourne lawyer Nicola Gobbo deployed all sorts of tactics to hide her betrayal from her clients, but police have denied they encouraged her to have a sexual relationship with a drug cook.

Police handlers for the lawyer-turned-informer knew the man was romantically interested in Ms Gobbo, who was defending him on drugs charges while also setting him up over his clandestine drug labs.

A handler known as Peter Smith admitted while she was never encouraged to have a sexual relationship with the man, it was left to her and never explicitly discouraged.

“(Sources are) the ones in the position to know how to develop that relationship so the information’s forthcoming,” he told a royal commission into police use of informers on Thursday.

“She was told not to do anything relationship-wise that she wouldn’t normally do.”

Ms Gobbo, also known to police as informer 3838, referred multiple times to her relationship with the cook when speaking to handlers, according to the records of their conversations.

“3838 has considered (the cook’s) recent lack of contact, and a possibility for this is that 3838 has ‘cock teased’ him one too many times,” a handler wrote in January 2006.

Mr Smith described Ms Gobbo’s use of the phrase as “quite distasteful”.

Ms Gobbo’s lawyer Peter Collinson QC suggested it was in the interest of police for the cook to have romantic feelings towards Ms Gobbo and that it was “pretty obvious” he would be more inclined to tell her about his plans to cook drugs.

 

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Seriously? Can this get any smuttier or more repulsive?

Melbourne lawyer Nicola Gobbo deployed all sorts of tactics to hide her betrayal from her clients, but police have denied they encouraged her to have a sexual relationship with a drug cook.

Police handlers for the lawyer-turned-informer knew the man was romantically interested in Ms Gobbo, who was defending him on drugs charges while also setting him up over his clandestine drug labs.

A handler known as Peter Smith admitted while she was never encouraged to have a sexual relationship with the man, it was left to her and never explicitly discouraged.

“(Sources are) the ones in the position to know how to develop that relationship so the information’s forthcoming,” he told a royal commission into police use of informers on Thursday.

“She was told not to do anything relationship-wise that she wouldn’t normally do.”

Ms Gobbo, also known to police as informer 3838, referred multiple times to her relationship with the cook when speaking to handlers, according to the records of their conversations.

“3838 has considered (the cook’s) recent lack of contact, and a possibility for this is that 3838 has ‘cock teased’ him one too many times,” a handler wrote in January 2006.

Mr Smith described Ms Gobbo’s use of the phrase as “quite distasteful”.

Ms Gobbo’s lawyer Peter Collinson QC suggested it was in the interest of police for the cook to have romantic feelings towards Ms Gobbo and that it was “pretty obvious” he would be more inclined to tell her about his plans to cook drugs.

Wouldn't normally do... hmmm.

BTW, I don't think my 'I haven't slept with Nicola Gobbo' tee shirts are going to be big sellers.
 

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Seriously? Can this get any smuttier or more repulsive?

Melbourne lawyer Nicola Gobbo deployed all sorts of tactics to hide her betrayal from her clients, but police have denied they encouraged her to have a sexual relationship with a drug cook.

Police handlers for the lawyer-turned-informer knew the man was romantically interested in Ms Gobbo, who was defending him on drugs charges while also setting him up over his clandestine drug labs.

A handler known as Peter Smith admitted while she was never encouraged to have a sexual relationship with the man, it was left to her and never explicitly discouraged.

“(Sources are) the ones in the position to know how to develop that relationship so the information’s forthcoming,” he told a royal commission into police use of informers on Thursday.

“She was told not to do anything relationship-wise that she wouldn’t normally do.”

Ms Gobbo, also known to police as informer 3838, referred multiple times to her relationship with the cook when speaking to handlers, according to the records of their conversations.

“3838 has considered (the cook’s) recent lack of contact, and a possibility for this is that 3838 has ‘cock teased’ him one too many times,” a handler wrote in January 2006.

Mr Smith described Ms Gobbo’s use of the phrase as “quite distasteful”.

Ms Gobbo’s lawyer Peter Collinson QC suggested it was in the interest of police for the cook to have romantic feelings towards Ms Gobbo and that it was “pretty obvious” he would be more inclined to tell her about his plans to cook drugs.

Better add pimping to the list of potential criminal charges that the Royal Commission could find against VicPol

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The Lawyer X royal commission has heard accusations a senior police officer deliberately misled a court to cover up the use of Nicola Gobbo as a human source. And he has said he thought he was telling the truth at the time.

I think he's been caught out.

 

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The old email blind (bcc) copy snafu.

They really should stop using bog standard email for these types of catastrophically confidential communications.

Way too easy for a human to cc: instead of bcc:

A communication tool/account that does not allow cc: should be used for these types of communications.
Every one of the communications should be prepared, and then quality controlled, double and triple checked before anyone can even get anywhere having access to hitting the send button.

VICPOL should go talk to security experts on what others do to prevent accidental cc: on highly sensitive communications.

Victoria Police statement:
Victoria Police is providing regular updates to a closed list of 104 serving and 55 veteran police members involved in the current royal commission. We do this because we are committed to supporting them through this difficult period. Our standard practice has been to blind copy recipients on these email updates, but regrettably this did not occur on an update sent out earlier this week, and the email addresses were visible to all recipients. When the mistake was identified the email was recalled immediately.Victoria Police has called or attempted to call every person on that list to apologise for the error and we have also changed our process to ensure it does not occur again. Whilst the error is regrettable, and we apologise unreservedly to all affected, we note that every recipient is a veteran or serving police officer, who is well aware of their obligations to protect the security of information.
 

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The old email blind (bcc) copy snafu.

They really should stop using bog standard email for these types of catastrophically confidential communications.

Way too easy for a human to cc: instead of bcc:

A communication tool/account that does not allow cc: should be used for these types of communications.
Every one of the communications should be prepared, and then quality controlled, double and triple checked before anyone can even get anywhere having access to hitting the send button.

VICPOL should go talk to security experts on what others do to prevent accidental cc: on highly sensitive communications.

"well aware of their obligations..."

Why is there a Royal Commission again?

Might have something to do with not being aware of their obligations to jurisprudence, but I digress...

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