Rucci picks Adelaide in his top 5!

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The greasy slob backtracks again and now backs the 'hopelessly incompetent' Adelaide to finish only one spot behind Port Adelaide in 5th.

Nice one Rucci, how many times have you changed your mind now? 4000 times? And that's just this month...
 

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IMO Adelaide could finish as high as second, or as low as tenth or so this season. Your lot should appear to give the top 4 a shake at some stage.

Most "experts" are predicting on Adelaide finishing low because of the older players that they see, but IMO that will cause problems for Adelaide in a year or two, most likely two, but only if the youngsters don't come through quick enough as you do now have a few hopefuls.

The problems that occur from trading for older players is that then you draft fewer youngsters, and thus have less room for "error", and thus are "delayed".
The last bit is a general comment and not necessarily directed towards the Crows, but apart from this year, drafting youngsters didn't seem to a priority for the Crows.
 
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Rucci has actually picked the Crows to finish higher than me!

My projected finishing order (at the end of the minor round):

1. Essendon
2. Port Adelaide
3. Brisbane
4. Hawthorn
5. Collingwood
6. Adelaide
7. Fremantle
8. Kangaroos
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9. Sydney
10. West Coast
11. St Kilda
12. Melboune
13. Geelong
14. Carlton
15. Western Bulldogs
16 Richmond

Sure to miles out though!
 

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Originally posted by PAfolwr
Most "experts" are predicting on Adelaide finishing low because of the older players that they see, but IMO that will cause problems for Adelaide in a year or two, most likely two, but only if the youngsters don't come through quick enough as you do now have a few hopefuls.

The problems that occur from trading for older players is that then you draft fewer youngsters, and thus have less room for "error", and thus are "delayed".
The last bit is a general comment and not necessarily directed towards the Crows, but apart from this year, drafting youngsters didn't seem to a priority for the Crows.
You have got it in a nutshell my friend.

I don't get this too old critisism. I am of belief that players hit their prime between 26 and 29 yeard of age. After that some drop off quickly, some keep playing at a high level and some even improve with age.

Most of our "old" players are in the 27-29 age bracket so how the hell will that have negative effect on us this year. It will in a year or two BUT not this year.

I agree we need to bring through some quality youth this year and next year if we are to stay competative in the long run but for the season 2004 we should be right up there all things being equal.
 

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Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
4. Hawthorn
I think they are a bit over rated. Too many question marks over too many key players. Hawks more than any other clubs rely on too few to get it done. Crawford and Mitchell are their prme movers in the midifield along with underrated Lekkas. However, their spine is the most injury prone in the comp. Hay is top quality but ALWAYS breaks down. Croad is a mixed bag. Jacob is another over rated ex bomber, Holland breaks down more than my old car did and Thompson is far too inconsistent for a man of his talents.

Too many thing have to go right for the Hawks to finish in the top 4 despite having the best draw of the lot. I can see them finishing in the 8 but not as high as top 4.
 
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The morning show today with SEN1116 (the all sports radio station), presenters, T. Watson, G. Lyon, B.Brownless, and T.Lane, all had Adelaide as the team to drop out of the eight.

I agree with Stiffy, age is a benefit in AFL ( with some youth for enthusiasm). Young teams are traditionally inconsistent, lack the physical and emotional maturity, and are rarely successful.

I don't know what we have done from last year to turn the Melbourne press against us. Some tipsters in the Sunday papers had us as low as 15th:confused:
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
I don't know what we have done from last year to turn the Melbourne press against us. Some tipsters in the Sunday papers had us as low as 15th:confused:
Don't worry mate, that almost guarantees that we will finish in the top 4. Same old, same old. They were saying exactly the same things in 2002 and we ended up playing in the preliminary final and if we had an ounce of luck that day we would have beaten Collingwood and squared off with Brisbane on the GF day.
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
The morning show today with SEN1116 (the all sports radio station), presenters, T. Watson, G. Lyon, B.Brownless, and T.Lane, all had Adelaide as the team to drop out of the eight.

I agree with Stiffy, age is a benefit in AFL ( with some youth for enthusiasm). Young teams are traditionally inconsistent, lack the physical and emotional maturity, and are rarely successful.

I don't know what we have done from last year to turn the Melbourne press against us. Some tipsters in the Sunday papers had us as low as 15th:confused:
Adelaide has one problem from a tipsters point of view IMO, and that is that the swing from best possible finishing position to worst possible finishing position (with an average number of injuries) is quite large.
Victorians this year seem to favour the lesser option. Same as with Port, who IMO have a lesser "swing" than the Crows, but seventh? That is close to as low as we can possibly finish without a massive injury crisis.

EDIT: Your first ten games are the reason for that large possible swing IMO.
 
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Anyway having said all that, I'll make the same uninformed predictions on my final 8:

1. Fremantle - What a list - good big men
2. Sydney - a good gameplan
3. Brisbane - odds against them
4. Essendon
5. St Kilda
6. Adelaide
7. Hawthorn
8. Port Adelaide
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9. Collingwood
10. West Coast
11. Richmond
12. Melboune
13. Geelong
14. Carlton
15. Kangaroos
16 Western Bulldogs
 

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FWIW I'd tip both Adelaide & Port in the bottom half of the 8. Both with an outside chance of top 4, both with a risk of slipping out of the 8 if real injury problems arise.
 

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Originally posted by ok.crows
FWIW I'd tip both Adelaide & Port in the bottom half of the 8. Both with an outside chance of top 4, both with a risk of slipping out of the 8 if real injury problems arise.
I think thats a fair assessment of both teams situation.
The power have lost depth, the Crows depth is questionable, so both teams will not want injuries to key players. (goes without saying really)
 

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I think the AFC right now have a good mix of players and a good team balance, alot of the 'experts' seem to beleive having a few older guys makes your team vunerable which I dont think is the case, Do you think Brisbane are worried that Alystair Lynch is 35, noway cause the guy can play his position and he is damn hard to matchup on he basically is a matchwinner, Rucci and Sheehan can go and blow it out there arse as far as I am concerned they havent played a game of AFL in there lives, I dont reakon either of those two tools could run a lap of an oval, yet they are AFL 'experts' yeah and monkeys are flying out of my butt:rolleyes:
 
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Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I think they are a bit over rated. Too many question marks over too many key players. Hawks more than any other clubs rely on too few to get it done. Crawford and Mitchell are their prme movers in the midifield along with underrated Lekkas. However, their spine is the most injury prone in the comp. Hay is top quality but ALWAYS breaks down. Croad is a mixed bag. Jacob is another over rated ex bomber, Holland breaks down more than my old car did and Thompson is far too inconsistent for a man of his talents.

Too many thing have to go right for the Hawks to finish in the top 4 despite having the best draw of the lot. I can see them finishing in the 8 but not as high as top 4.
Each to their own Stiffy - certainly wasn't expecting everyone to agree with me. Personally I think they have been underachievers & Schwab doesn't get them firing this year, he can kiss his job goodbye. Must admit though I'm concerned about the injuries to their talls. Croad is OK if played at CHB & can use his athlestism & avoid using his brain too much (he is not a forward). I actually reckon Jacobs (like Lucas) cops unfair flack from Essendon supporters. Reckon he is a handy pickup & has only really been disappointing when Sheeds played him under duress with injury.
 

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Originally posted by Wayne's-World
I agree with Stiffy, age is a benefit in AFL ( with some youth for enthusiasm). Young teams are traditionally inconsistent, lack the physical and emotional maturity, and are rarely successful.
I think people oon BigFooty and in media seriously under rate the experience factor. Thats one thing you can't buy and certainly something you can't replace. Come finals time I would rather have experienced players on my team than a bunch of youngsters who a re generally more of a risk in pressure games.

One thing that intruiges me is that everyone is raving about brisbane going for 4 in a row (and rightly so as they are the best side in the comp) despite the fact they have as many as 5 players over 30 and Michael Voss in serious doubt as far as playing out the season is concerned. Lions rely on majority of those players to bring their game week in week out with Lynch being one of them. Yet Crows have 3 or 4 players over 30 and rely less on them than Brisbane does on theirs. Somehow Crows are old and Brisbane aren't.:rolleyes:
 

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Originally posted by Stiffy_18 Somehow Crows are old and Brisbane aren't.:rolleyes: [/B]


Problem there is Crows only have two under the age of 20 on their list, Brisbane have 10 (pretty scary)
 

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Problem there is Crows only have two under the age of 20 on their list, Brisbane have 10 (pretty scary)
We are talking about THIS year not 2 years down the track. What does that fact have to do with this year??????
 

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The difference is that when Brisbane have injuries they'll be trying out rookies and giving them experience whereas when Adelaide have injuries they'll mostly be playing players that stand a good chance of being ditched at the end of the year.
 

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Originally posted by Porthos
The difference is that when Brisbane have injuries they'll be trying out rookies and giving them experience whereas when Adelaide have injuries they'll mostly be playing players that stand a good chance of being ditched at the end of the year.
And again how does that impact THIS year not a year or 2 down the track??????

Rookie is not going to have a big influence on a match.
 

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Originally posted by Porthos
The difference is that when Brisbane have injuries they'll be trying out rookies and giving them experience whereas when Adelaide have injuries they'll mostly be playing players that stand a good chance of being ditched at the end of the year.
As if they will.
 
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Originally posted by Porthos
The difference is that when Brisbane have injuries they'll be trying out rookies and giving them experience whereas when Adelaide have injuries they'll mostly be playing players that stand a good chance of being ditched at the end of the year.
I reckon the Crows will play rookies for more games than Brisbane this year. Will be very surprised if Reilly, Hentschel & Schuback don't play plenty of games, with a sprinkling of games from others.
 
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