Rule Changes for 2019

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Seen a tweet from Mick McGuane going on about that apparently the ball has to bounce after a ruckman has tapped it down in a ruck contest, meaning players can't shark hitouts anymore

Is this actually true, or is it just a trial JLT rule?

I think he's referring to one of the consequences of the 2017 third man up ban, that if you're not a designated ruck, you can't contest the ball until it's tapped by a ruck or has hit the ground; a non-recalled wayward throw-in (or a situation where neither team has a nominated ruckman) ends up being left to hit the ground because anybody else contesting it in the air is "third man up". He's absolutely right - it's just one of many idiocies to come from a ridiculous rule change - but it's not a new one.
 

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I think he's referring to one of the consequences of the 2017 third man up ban, that if you're not a designated ruck, you can't contest the ball until it's tapped by a ruck or has hit the ground; a non-recalled wayward throw-in (or a situation where neither team has a nominated ruckman) ends up being left to hit the ground because anybody else contesting it in the air is "third man up". He's absolutely right - it's just one of many idiocies to come from a ridiculous rule change - but it's not a new one.
Ah right

Understood now, think I read some other tweet there that confused me

Yeah I wasn't happy third man up was abolished, it cleared congestion most of the time

Just a reactionary rule because teams like the Dogs, Cats and Hawks were profiting off it
 
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Any player interchanging shouldnt be penalised for not being in the correct position so long as they are running toward their spot. They positions are mental they should just be 6 in the forward area (edge of square to goals) and 6 in the back area none of this crap inside 50 and 1 in the goal square. Also the ruck contest is an easy one to fix just give a free if there is more than one player from either team going up for the ball get rid of this under 10s having to put your hand up shit that would make up for the random dodgy throw in or bounces. Dont mind the play on from a point not so sure about play on from a 50 m penalty absolutely allow the player unhindered to get to the 50 mark though. Im not a bit fan of big changes all they are going to do by speeding the game up is create more injuries.
 
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The hands in the back rule will be another example of the AFL having no idea what they are doing.

The rule is you still cant push a player directly in the back, you can now place hands in the back to hold your position, sounds simple doesnt it? Yet I dont think the umpires undertstand this rule as I saw multiple times over multiple games players shoved squarely in the back in a marking contest usually across boundry lines and the umpire called for a throw in and I'm not talking about slight touches these were full on forceful pushes.

A player will get hurt if this continues, either a knee injury trying to stop them from crashing into a fence or just slamming into the fence.

Not bloody good enough
 

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Runners need to be reinstated pretty quickly. Such a reactionary rule change. Agree that something had to be done about the onfield coaching but they’ve gone to the other extreme, where game day coaching is non existent.. the coach might as well not show up for the match. Couldve fixed it slowly as it wasn’t really a pressing issue. Bigger fines to clubs, fines to individuals, suspensions etc should’ve been trialed first.
 

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I'm not sure what the solution is, but fines isn't it. Do you really think clubs would care about a few grand fine on grand final day with a flag on the line?
Yeah was just throwing up things off the top of my head. Was more trying to make the point that they couldve experimented with different punishments rather than banning them all together.
 

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It sounds stupid but I would rather runners literally hand players a written note on the field so they have no reason to stay out there.
 

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Runners need to be reinstated pretty quickly. Such a reactionary rule change. Agree that something had to be done about the onfield coaching but they’ve gone to the other extreme, where game day coaching is non existent.. the coach might as well not show up for the match. Couldve fixed it slowly as it wasn’t really a pressing issue. Bigger fines to clubs, fines to individuals, suspensions etc should’ve been trialed first.
I completely disagree with this statement. Clubs overplayed the runners rule and that’s why it had to change. This will bring flair back into the game as the runners won’t consistently coach on the field and players will be a bit more daring


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The afl rules committee has completely lost touch with the afl game and appear to be trying to change it into a new game entirely. Give these new rules 2 weeks and i suspect some fans will turn off the tv and not go to games, if this is their plan then congratulations they will probably succeed.
 

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I completely disagree with this statement. Clubs overplayed the runners rule and that’s why it had to change. This will bring flair back into the game as the runners won’t consistently coach on the field and players will be a bit more daring


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Something had to be done.. but they went to the opposite extreme before exploring other possibilities. It’s just classic AFL jumping straight into things without thinking and it’ll create unforeseen problems down the line. This game is as much about coaching and coaching on gameday as it is about the players.

Imagine a final, 3 minutes to go, down by less than a goal and Simmo wants to get McGovern down forward to clunk one.. but no goals end up being scored in the remaining 3 minutes and he can’t get the message out. Or Dangerfield being stuck on the bench because a runner can’t get out there to tell the other guy to get off. Obviously that’s an extreme case but it’ll be like that all game.. you want as much flexibility as possible to have players exactly where you want them to be. There’s just a bit too much change all at once and clubs are going to have to completely reorganise everything to do with rotations and positioning. Going to be a lot more of that 4 rotations at once type thing that I saw in a match, last weekend I think it was?
 

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Something had to be done.. but they went to the opposite extreme before exploring other possibilities. It’s just classic AFL jumping straight into things without thinking and it’ll create unforeseen problems down the line. This game is as much about coaching and coaching on gameday as it is about the players.

Imagine a final, 3 minutes to go, down by less than a goal and Simmo wants to get McGovern down forward to clunk one.. but no goals end up being scored in the remaining 3 minutes and he can’t get the message out. Or Dangerfield being stuck on the bench because a runner can’t get out there to tell the other guy to get off. Obviously that’s an extreme case but it’ll be like that all game.. you want as much flexibility as possible to have players exactly where you want them to be. There’s just a bit too much change all at once and clubs are going to have to completely reorganise everything to do with rotations and positioning. Going to be a lot more of that 4 rotations at once type thing that I saw in a match, last weekend I think it was?
Check out will schoefilds moment in the GF. He took it upon himself to run forward and got caught out of position. Then Mcgovern took that mark because he had to go off his man, kicked to Vardy, to Ryan then to Sheed then history.

Sometimes good things can happen even when players **** up.

And I think Ryan or Sheed were meant to be off the ground but the ball was on the wrong side of the ground for a change.

Also remember if one team doesn't have any instructions neither does the other.
 
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Something had to be done.. but they went to the opposite extreme before exploring other possibilities. It’s just classic AFL jumping straight into things without thinking and it’ll create unforeseen problems down the line. This game is as much about coaching and coaching on gameday as it is about the players.

Imagine a final, 3 minutes to go, down by less than a goal and Simmo wants to get McGovern down forward to clunk one.. but no goals end up being scored in the remaining 3 minutes and he can’t get the message out. Or Dangerfield being stuck on the bench because a runner can’t get out there to tell the other guy to get off. Obviously that’s an extreme case but it’ll be like that all game.. you want as much flexibility as possible to have players exactly where you want them to be. There’s just a bit too much change all at once and clubs are going to have to completely reorganise everything to do with rotations and positioning. Going to be a lot more of that 4 rotations at once type thing that I saw in a match, last weekend I think it was?
I don’t think many fans pay thousands of dollars per year to go watch coaches set up zone or put their superstars on the pine.

As most coaches say on the talk back shows, on game day they are more the overseer not really a game changer as most of their coaching is done during the week.

The beauty of Aussie Rules for a 150 years was that it was a contest within a contest (18 vs 18) and there is nothing more exciting as a fan watching a star player take risks and be daring.

The issues with coaches is that they take the flare out of the game and they have to much influence on people’s opinions regarding silly rules like this “runner” issue.


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