Rumour File #4.

[Poseidon]

Would rather lose Warnock than Hampson based on what I've seen this year.

 

[HARKER]

Would rather lose Warnock than Hampson based on what I've seen this year.

Then you've wiped Warnock's first 5 games from memory.
Same thing is happening for many of our positions.

Four weeks ago, we wouldn't have O'hAilpin relegated for anyone.
We currently have Thornton as our premium CHB, because he is better than Bower or Austin.
Next week, we may be questioning whether we need Duigan back, or should we just ease him through the Ants to see how he goes.

Whichever way it's a great thing we have faith in those that have been seelected by our ever improving MC.

 

[Blue since 72]

Isn't Hammer's contract up this year? We may get nothing for him if he gets the deal he wants somewhere else.

 

[Stamos]

Isn't Hammer's contract up this year? We may get nothing for him if he gets the deal he wants somewhere else.

Yes, it's up at the end of the year. No doubt the club will try to keep him, but if he wants out, no doubt it will be to GWS, and we will get average compensation.

 

[The_Wookie]

Isn't Hammer's contract up this year? We may get nothing for him if he gets the deal he wants somewhere else.

Ill spew if we lose Hammer. last few weeks he's started to become the ruckman we want, and starting to show why i personally think he's going to be carltons go to ruck partner with kreuzer next year. Some of his ground work has been awesome, as well as his marking improving radically in the last 3 weeks.

 

[Blue since 72]

Ill spew if we lose Hammer. last few weeks he's started to become the ruckman we want, and starting to show why i personally think he's going to be carltons go to ruck partner with kreuzer next year. Some of his ground work has been awesome, as well as his marking improving radically in the last 3 weeks.

I've often had the gut feeling that along with the supporters the club (read Ratts I guess) has been frustrated with the Hammer's progress but along with most others have seen a much greater positive input in recent weeks.

It absolutely sucks the big one that he's got injured as it will put him (potentially) way back in the pecking order again.

Part of the dilemma for mine is that I expected 206 to have put that much distance between himself and Hammer this season that Hammer would have gone at the end of the year because of a lack of game time, but up until now at least the race for the second starting on-field ruck was wide open.

Oh well, 206 now gets his chance to make his mark.

 

[smashbox gill]

Then you've wiped Warnock's first 5 games from memory.
Same thing is happening for many of our positions.

Four weeks ago, we wouldn't have O'hAilpin relegated for anyone.
We currently have Thornton as our premium CHB, because he is better than Bower or Austin.
Next week, we may be questioning whether we need Duigan back, or should we just ease him through the Ants to see how he goes.

Whichever way it's a great thing we have faith in those that have been seelected by our ever improving MC.

I still think Hampson is more valuable, the way the game is being played these days u need athletes on the field, warnock yes is taller and a better tap ruckman, but hampson just does so much more around the ground and i think that is why he is more valuable.

 

[HBF]

I still think Hampson is more valuable, the way the game is being played these days u need athletes on the field, warnock yes is taller and a better tap ruckman, but hampson just does so much more around the ground and i think that is why he is more valuable.

Pretty much sums it up for me.
Although i'd like to see Warnock really grab this chance with both hands, and get back to the form we saw him in during the pre-season.

 

[Banga19]

Pretty much sums it up for me.
Although i'd like to see Warnock really grab this chance with both hands, and get back to the form we saw him in during the pre-season.

RW has only played 41 games which I find quite remarkable. I think he's got another level which we're yet to see.

Been loving Hammer's improvement this season. Hope we keep both of them.

 

[Vamos Juddamente]

I am not too fussed if Hampson leaves at the end of the year. Although he has has improved I personally think with the new ruck rule we may end up not even playing Warnock. Kruze is such a freak I think long term we are much better playing him in the ruck for 80% and have a makeshift forward/ruck. I think Kkruze is a good forward but an absolute freak ruckman so we will be best playing him there for the bulk of the time. For me Warnock or hammer are not up to playing in the forward line for any length of time so we should look elsewhere.

 

[HBF]

RW has only played 41 games which I find quite remarkable. I think he's got another level which we're yet to see.

Been loving Hammer's improvement this season. Hope we keep both of them.

I could be wrong here, but I detect a real laconic attitude with Warnock. I just wonder if he thought it would just happen for in 2010. With Kreuzer being injured, and Hampson behind him in the pecking order, suspect he might have thought he could coast through the early part of the season. Now he's for a fight.

 

[Banga19]

I could be wrong here, but I detect a real laconic attitude with Warnock. I just wonder if he thought it would just happen for in 2010. With Kreuzer being injured, and Hampson behind him in the pecking order, suspect he might have thought he could coast through the early part of the season. Now he's for a fight.

I think it's hard to judge someones character like that from such an outside perspective, but I know where you're coming from.

He'll know he's got a fight on his hands and I guess we'll see whether he's got it in him to take the number 1 ruck spot and not let go.

 

[HBF]

He certainly does have a challenge on his hands. Should Hammer be out for 8 weeks, he's probably going to be ready again around finals time. Makes for a great problem to have sorting out our big men.

 

[bobsyouruncle]

Warnock is not slouch when it comes to speed either.
I remember against Geelong early last year 206 chasing Wojcski(how ever you spell it) for half the field then getting him, forcing the kick to fall straight to Walker.

Keep both, or do a Joker from Dark Knight, give them each half a pool cue and see who kills who first

 

[blue gunslinger]

Warnock is not slouch when it comes to speed either.
I remember against Geelong early last year 206 chasing Wojcski(how ever you spell it) for half the field then getting him, forcing the kick to fall straight to Walker.

Keep both, or do a Joker from Dark Knight, give them each half a pool cue and see who kills who first

would the match review comm consider that excessive force?

 

[KennyHunter9]

Warnock is not slouch when it comes to speed either.
I remember against Geelong early last year 206 chasing Wojcski(how ever you spell it) for half the field then getting him, forcing the kick to fall straight to Walker.

Keep both, or do a Joker from Dark Knight, give them each half a pool cue and see who kills who first

If this is how selection worked, I'd back Setanta in as starting ruck - his hurling work would come to the fore. Back up ruck would be Mitch, whose stick work might not be as good, but he wouldn't feel pain.

And it would be bad news for the Hammer, because as the Herald Sun likes to continually remind us, he's a lover, not a fighter.

 

[gbatman]

it's funny how every one now rates Hampson ahead of Warnock. Warnock was playing decent footy this year pre the Geelong game, he just wasn't kicking goals. Warnock's form at the end of last season still trumps Hampsons form this year. Be patient, Warnock will turn out to be a very good player, he's still too light though and because of that will take time.

 

[coryne]

If this is how selection worked, I'd back Setanta in as starting ruck - his hurling work would come to the fore. Back up ruck would be Mitch, whose stick work might not be as good, but he wouldn't feel pain.

And it would be bad news for the Hammer, because as the Herald Sun likes to continually remind us, he's a lover, not a fighter.

Hey don't forget Yarran !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[1981]

it's funny how every one now rates Hampson ahead of Warnock. Warnock was playing decent footy this year pre the Geelong game, he just wasn't kicking goals. Warnock's form at the end of last season still trumps Hampsons form this year. Be patient, Warnock will turn out to be a very good player, he's still too light though and because of that will take time.

Last year means nothing - why can't he replicate that form in 2011?? Can't blame injury/lack of fitness, maybe laziness ??

Hammer is getting much more of ball around ground in last few weeks than 206 has done all year, so thus is ahead of him

Warnock needs to work harder, and show some hardness

 

[Graffy4242]

Last year means nothing - why can't he replicate that form in 2011?? Can't blame injury/lack of fitness, maybe laziness ??

Hammer is getting much more of ball around ground in last few weeks than 206 has done all year, so thus is ahead of him

Warnock needs to work harder, and show some hardness

Agreed, I really rate 206 but to go to the next level he needs some mongrel in his game and to HTFU. I want to see him crashing packs and using his body to (legally) hurt the opposition.

 

[Blues Clues]

Couldn't agree more about 206.

 

[gbatman]

Last year means nothing - why can't he replicate that form in 2011?? Can't blame injury/lack of fitness, maybe laziness ??

Hammer is getting much more of ball around ground in last few weeks than 206 has done all year, so thus is ahead of him

Warnock needs to work harder, and show some hardness

That's the million dollar question.

Actually...

Hampson V Sydney - 8 Disposals
Hampson V Brisbane - 9 Disposals
Hampson V Port - 13 Disposals
Hampson V Melbourne - 12 Disposals
Hampson V Adelaide - 5 Disposals

Warnock V Geelong - 5 Disposals
Warnock V St. K - 11 Disposals
Warnock V Syd - 7 Disposals
Warnock V Adelaide - 15 Disposals
Warnock V Essendon - 15 Disposals

...it's much of a muchness when comparing their last stats with Warnock ahead.

 

[Graffy4242]

Maybe get him to share a house with Robbo?????????

 

[HARKER]

Agreed, I really rate 206 but to go to the next level he needs some mongrel in his game and to HTFU. I want to see him crashing packs and using his body to (legally) hurt the opposition.

Weren't we saying the same about Hampson only 4 weeks ago?

With Donehue on board and the coaches edict to get tough, I'll bet you'll see that mongrel coming through from all players soon enough.
The ruckman seem to have been the last to take it up. (Kreuzer excepted)

 

[Aphrodite]

Isn't this a Rumour File thread.