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Lockyer24 said:
I'm open to trading Dawes, Wellingham for picks
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If the unlucky nonsense of Tippett landing at Collingwood actually occurred, this would be the only reason to get rid of Dawes.

If we dont land Tippett, Dawes is very much a required player in his natural FF position.
 
If we don't land Tippett, surely we should make/use those extra $$$ available and offer them over to Wellingham?

I'm very keen to retain his services.
 
MeisterBot said:
Dawes can't take an overhead mark. It's weird, because watching footage of his first AFL goal, the commentators said he was noted for his contested marking ability. Lol'd like hell.

He used to be a deadeye dick though. His kicking is a confidence thing. He gets his back and he'll improve on that. His game relied a lot on blowing up defenders through repeated leads in and out of the 50m arc. Because Cloke plays similarly, it didn't give KPDs a chance to roll off and catch a break or for 3rd men up to influence a lot of contests.

Playing in the ruck has killed him two ways here, it reduces his ability to run around and lead because he's in the middle more and tussling with giant rucks. It also gives defenders a break, allowing them to zone off and run 3rd man up on Cloke or play loose man.

Lynch brings things back to 2010/2011 status quo as a replacement for the Anvil. If all goes well, Dawes regains confidence and gets his game back. He chips in with a solid ~30-35 goal season and becomes a solid contributor as second banana. If not, he goes out and Paine comes in.

Works for me either way.

Don't want Tippett though, not for the kind of price that's been floated. Would rather solve our Leon Davis 2.0 problem or do something about the pure ruck stocks.
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Well done mate, perfect piece of logic and reasoning, Dawes in 2010 form is huge weapon. Lynch offers this possibility taking ruck duties from Dawes.
I would rather spend money elsewhere than on Tippett given his medical history.
 

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Just want to get ask the question, what are people's thoughts and feelings towards potentially trading Chris Dawes even if we don't land Tippett?

There's aways been a notion that in order to stay at the top, every now and again if you trade out a player or two for younger draft choices, you can recycle/rebuild quicker and maintain your dominance at the top for alot longer.

I rate Dawes but there perhaps is merit in the idea. It would free up $$$$- we would receive a pretty decent draft selection- somewhere in the very 20s at least and we have Jackson Paine who can potentially be groomed and come in and perform the second key forward's role after some promising performances in the VFL where he kicked a few bags.

Is the idea worth exploring?

Could help us retain Wellingham too who I am desperate to keep, despite what is going on out West with this saga.
 
Ok so a hypothetical...

Let's say we dish off Wellers (personally I hope not) and we get Pick 17 from WC.

Other than Tippett, and not including using said picks, we could probably go after another biggish name player...
- What do you think we could get for Picks 17 and 18 together?
- What do you think we could get for Picks 17, 18 and Dawes together?

Keeping in mind that we probably need someone with great foot skills and/or pace.
 
dalethomas13 said:
Just want to get ask the question, what are people's thoughts and feelings towards potentially trading Chris Dawes even if we don't land Tippett?

There's aways been a notion that in order to stay at the top, every now and again if you trade out a player or two for younger draft choices, you can recycle/rebuild quicker and maintain your dominance at the top for alot longer.

I rate Dawes but there perhaps is merit in the idea. It would free up $$$$- we would receive a pretty decent draft selection- somewhere in the very 20s at least and we have Jackson Paine who can potentially be groomed and come in and perform the second key forward's role after some promising performances in the VFL where he kicked a few bags.

Is the idea worth exploring?

Could help us retain Wellingham too who I am desperate to keep, despite what is going on out West with this saga.
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I am not keen on this notion at all.

Dawes has proven that he can get it done as a FF and as a 3rd tall. He did it in our premiership year.

We asked him to play a new role this year, one he obviously couldn't play. He won't have to do that next season.

If he stinks it up again going back forward, then he is gone.

Stewart, Paine & Cegs are not ready to be a tall that we need down there with Cloke.

Given his play this season, i would have to imagine his worth is at an all time low.
 
Certainly think we are not interested in chasing Tippett. he's Good player but the cash he's demanding would hurt us further down the track.

We need to hold Dawes to maintain the structure we have been looking for since the loss of Leroy Brown so the only way I can see us looking at moving Dawes to Melbourne is if we are committing to locking Giles in.....Whilst I don't want to get rid of Dawes, I do like Giles who would add value to our team.

It will be interesting to see what happens in the next few weeks, I think Wellers will go even though I'd prefer him to stay so maybe Wellers to WC for Stevens and or a pick and Dawes to MFC for a pick and Giles to Pies for picks........

I still think Pederson and Martin are of interest to us, but don't want to go too top heavy.
 
dalethomas13 said:
Just want to get ask the question, what are people's thoughts and feelings towards potentially trading Chris Dawes even if we don't land Tippett?

There's aways been a notion that in order to stay at the top, every now and again if you trade out a player or two for younger draft choices, you can recycle/rebuild quicker and maintain your dominance at the top for alot longer.

I rate Dawes but there perhaps is merit in the idea. It would free up $$$$- we would receive a pretty decent draft selection- somewhere in the very 20s at least and we have Jackson Paine who can potentially be groomed and come in and perform the second key forward's role after some promising performances in the VFL where he kicked a few bags.

Is the idea worth exploring?

Could help us retain Wellingham too who I am desperate to keep, despite what is going on out West with this saga.
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My preference would be to retain him, but as you say there is a counter argument. Our forward line struggles primarily for a lack of mobility, and the need for players who are strong at ground level. Dawes and Cloke together means we're pretty heavy inside 50m and we really need someone who can crumb, especially if those two aren't able to take a mark as happened for roughly half of season 2012. Krakouer is that guy when healthy, and added a new dimension to our forward line once he returned. Finding a successor to Krak should be a drafting priority.

If we were to trade Dawes out, it would be an indication that we believe Lynch can fill the role, probably in combination with Paine, for the next couple of years until Lynch is done and dusted. It would also be an indication that we're happy with the guys we've got coming through in Gault, Stewart and maybe even Moore in a couple of years (again, looking forward to around the time Lynch will be hanging up the boots). It's a gamble as it leaves us with little depth, but it might secure us a pick with which we can address our other areas of weakness.
 
Mark_K said:
I am not keen on this notion at all.

Dawes has proven that he can get it done as a FF and as a 3rd tall. He did it in our premiership year.

We asked him to play a new role this year, one he obviously couldn't play. He won't have to do that next season.

Given his play this season, i would have to imagine his worth is at an all time low.
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I do agree with this and my preference is to keep him but I can see a really good opportunity that we could exploit if we wanted to and I wouldn't be too against it.

Everything you wrote with here I agree with though.

The Royal Sampler said:
My preference would be to retain him, but as you say there is a counter argument. Our forward line struggles primarily for a lack of mobility, and the need for players who are strong at ground level. Dawes and Cloke together means we're pretty heavy inside 50m and we really need someone who can crumb, especially if those two aren't able to take a mark as happened for roughly half of season 2012. Krakouer is that guy when healthy, and added a new dimension to our forward line once he returned. Finding a successor to Krak should be a drafting priority.

If we were to trade Dawes out, it would be an indication that we believe Lynch can fill the role, probably in combination with Paine, for the next couple of years until Lynch is done and dusted. It would also be an indication that we're happy with the guys we've got coming through in Gault, Stewart and maybe even Moore in a couple of years (again, looking forward to around the time Lynch will be hanging up the boots). It's a gamble as it leaves us with little depth, but it might secure us a pick with which we can address our other areas of weakness.
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Pretty much echoed my thoughts here TRS.

It's interesting to see how Dawesy plays out during trade week. He is contracted which is useful but another stinker of a season in 2013 and he will have next to zero trade value.
 
Unknown Identity said:
If Tippett goes to Gold Coast, who misses out on a game?

Lynch, Day or Dixon? Surely can't play 4 talls with Zac Smith number 1 ruck.

Would like to pry one of those free!
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Dixon is playing more as a ruckman these days - and doing it well. So its Lynch or Day. I'd take either! Day is a great athlete, both have huge potential. Suns don't need all of them if they get Tippett
 

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Unknown Identity said:
If Tippett goes to Gold Coast, who misses out on a game?

Lynch, Day or Dixon? Surely can't play 4 talls with Zac Smith number 1 ruck.

Would like to pry one of those free!
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Rubbish they all play different positions.
Dixon - CHB.
Day - CHF/FF.
Lynch - 3rd Tall.
Tippett - CHF/FF.
Smith - Ruck.
 
LOL.

"Midfielders are always people you're after. We haven't ruled ourselves out of trying to at least get an audience with someone like Sharrod Wellingham or any of the midfielders who are out there."
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Melbourne are dreaming big this year. They haven't ruled out the possibility that Sharrod take some time out of his busy schedule and sit down and listen to them explain why they are a basket case, letting him get 37 possessions against them. It's akin to Harry O wanting to meet Obama, except that it's less likely to happen.
 
All this love for Pederson....o_O
Can some please explain to me which of Brown, Reid, Maxwell, Keeffe, Dawes, Lynch & Cloke he will get a senior game before? :rolleyes:
 

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The Royal Sampler said:
LOL.



Melbourne are dreaming big this year. They haven't ruled out the possibility that Sharrod take some time out of his busy schedule and sit down and listen to them explain why they are a basket case, letting him get 37 possessions against them. It's akin to Harry O wanting to meet Obama, except that it's less likely to happen.
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Geez thats embarrassing. You couldn't sound weaker if you tried.
 
Realistically..... Are we likely to go after anyone else??
The club has ruled Tippett out.
Caddy won't happen.
It seems like

In: Lynch, Pick 17
Out: Wellingham


Can't see us making a play for many others? We certainly haven't been linked to anyone else.
 
Nicco_jj said:
Realistically..... Are we likely to go after anyone else??
The club has ruled Tippett out.
Caddy won't happen.
It seems like

In: Lynch, Pick 17
Out: Wellingham


Can't see us making a play for many others? We certainly haven't been linked to anyone else.
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What about a ruck man?
 
Nicco_jj said:
Realistically..... Are we likely to go after anyone else??
The club has ruled Tippett out.
Caddy won't happen.
It seems like

In: Lynch, Pick 17
Out: Wellingham


Can't see us making a play for many others? We certainly haven't been linked to anyone else.
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Pederson.
 
Nicco_jj said:
Realistically..... Are we likely to go after anyone else??
The club has ruled Tippett out.
Caddy won't happen.
It seems like

In: Lynch, Pick 17
Out: Wellingham


Can't see us making a play for many others? We certainly haven't been linked to anyone else.
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Would definately be expecting more than just pick 17 if wellingham goes to WC !!
 

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