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Possibly Dawes or Lynch as a #2 ruck option. He is young enough that if he plays to standard he could be at the club 5 years after Lynch retires.

Of course, the key is that he would come cheaply. I've seen someone mention a 2nd-round pick, which I find to be completely laughable. You don't give up 2nd-rounders for mature aged recruits who don't get senior games at their own club. But he could provide valuable depth for us for a 3rd-rounder or beyond. I think our 3rd rounder is 58-ish.
 

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Royal Sampler: If you are referring to Pederson, my mail is he isn't being let go for merely a third-rounder.

I don't know much about Lynch - is he actually that versatile? If he can genuinely play ruck as pinch-hitter (that is, be skilled enough to impede the other ruckman at contests and quick/fit enough to link up across the field) then one would think that would lessen Collingwood's need for a Pederson type. But I'm not sure Lynch is up to it based on what I've seen.

How are Collingwood expecting to replace Tarrant at FB, btw? Is there much KPD depth there?
 
fairdinkum said:
Royal Sampler: If you are referring to Pederson, my mail is he isn't being let go for merely a third-rounder.

I don't know much about Lynch - is he actually that versatile? If he can genuinely play ruck as pinch-hitter (that is, be skilled enough to impede the other ruckman at contests and quick/fit enough to link up across the field) then one would think that would lessen Collingwood's need for a Pederson type. But I'm not sure Lynch is up to it based on what I've seen.

How are Collingwood expecting to replace Tarrant at FB, btw? Is there much KPD depth there?
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Lachlan Keefe returns from injury
 
Will he be ready Round 1? I wouldn't be pushing him back too early. Reid and Brown can hold the fort, but we're in trouble if we have a repeat of this year where our backs kept falling over. This is an area of slight concern, imo.
 
The Royal Sampler said:
Possibly Dawes or Lynch as a #2 ruck option. He is young enough that if he plays to standard he could be at the club 5 years after Lynch retires.

Of course, the key is that he would come cheaply. I've seen someone mention a 2nd-round pick, which I find to be completely laughable. You don't give up 2nd-rounders for mature aged recruits who don't get senior games at their own club. But he could provide valuable depth for us for a 3rd-rounder or beyond. I think our 3rd rounder is 58-ish.
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God I hope we don't play Dawes in the Same Postion again next year.

Pederson manager said we are his Team of Choice:)
 
fairdinkum said:
Royal Sampler: If you are referring to Pederson, my mail is he isn't being let go for merely a third-rounder.

I don't know much about Lynch - is he actually that versatile? If he can genuinely play ruck as pinch-hitter (that is, be skilled enough to impede the other ruckman at contests and quick/fit enough to link up across the field) then one would think that would lessen Collingwood's need for a Pederson type. But I'm not sure Lynch is up to it based on what I've seen.

How are Collingwood expecting to replace Tarrant at FB, btw? Is there much KPD depth there?
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brown and keffee at fb or chb, with reid at chb. cloke, dawes, lynch and paine up forward. lynch used to play pinch hit ruck before Nicnat arrived. i say there really isnt any need for Pederson now since we recruited lynch.
 
JOELY said:
Will he be ready Round 1? I wouldn't be pushing him back too early. Reid and Brown can hold the fort, but we're in trouble if we have a repeat of this year where our backs kept falling over. This is an area of slight concern, imo.
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Goldy can go back there, or Rivers.
 
Lockyer24 said:
I'm open to trading Dawes, Wellingham for picks
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For Wellingham we should get a 1st round pick, either pick 16 (Freo ) or 17 (West Coast).
For Dawes i think the best we can do is a 2nd round pick, either 26 (Melbourne) or 27 (Dogs).

We certainly won't get a first round pick from Dogs and i can't see us being interested in any of there fringe players.
From Melbourne, maybe we could get Stefan Martin with their pick for Dawes and our 2nd round pick. I wouldn't mind that deal providing we can offload Cam Wood for nothing. I also wouldn't mind Jordan Gysberts as a potential replacement for Wellingham. I think he could be the tagger we need.
 
fairdinkum said:
Royal Sampler: If you are referring to Pederson, my mail is he isn't being let go for merely a third-rounder.

I don't know much about Lynch - is he actually that versatile? If he can genuinely play ruck as pinch-hitter (that is, be skilled enough to impede the other ruckman at contests and quick/fit enough to link up across the field) then one would think that would lessen Collingwood's need for a Pederson type. But I'm not sure Lynch is up to it based on what I've seen.

How are Collingwood expecting to replace Tarrant at FB, btw? Is there much KPD depth there?
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If Pederson is going to cost a 2nd rounder, then I hope we pass on him.

As for Lynch, I don't rate him hugely, but that is the role he was recruited for without a doubt. Essentially what Dawes was doing this year but perhaps with more variety in the KP roles he plays.

As for replacing Tarrant, we probably don't have someone that versatile. However Brown and Reid will take the key back posts full-time. We'll have Keeffe as depth, and some youngsters in Gault and Hartley to give some exposure at times. I'm guessing that Stewart won't see senior action but he will probably learn the ropes as a key defender also. Failing that, we have guys like O'Brien who is probably better suited to medium forwards and ditto Goldsack.
 

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I am also struggling with Pederson and unclear where he fits in given have 4 in front of him as a fwd and 3 as a back. Given that. I certainly don't think a Rd 2 makes sense.

Would much rather deal wellingham for caddy some way. If not him could be convinced of moloney or stevens and then target pace in the draft and KPF
 
Breakthelines said:
Can you please explain to me which of Brown, Reid, Maxwell, Keeffe, Dawes, Lynch & Cloke he will get a senior game before?
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Assuming everyone is healthy and plays to their potential, then none.

However, if we can snag if for cheap, a 3rd rounder or so, why not for insurance purposes?

Bring in Lynch, Pedersen, pick 17. Keep our 18th pick and bring in 2 young kids, preferably young half backs with a kicking leg which we can groom whilst resigning Goldy and you have yourself there a productive offseason with Caf, Ball, Krak & Keefe all coming back from knees, whilst hopefully getting a full year out of Ben Johnson, Marley Williams and Dids.

Sounds ok to me.
 
Now we have recruited Lynch talk of other tweener rucks like Pederson or Martin are moot IMO. They would only end up playing seconds and impeding our ability to continue to develop Witts, Ceglar and Gault in a similar way that Wood and McNamara did this season. I think even going after Giles now is unlikely because of Lynchs recruitment. I suspect unless we can get something juicy for Wellingham we will be quiet the rest of trade week. We will likely look at bringing in some pacy, incisive outside players and crumbers in the draft now.
 
Quicky said:
Now we have recruited Lynch talk of other tweener rucks like Pederson or Martin are moot IMO. They would only end up playing seconds and impeding our ability to continue to develop Witts, Ceglar and Gault in a similar way that Wood and McNamara did this season. I think even going after Giles now is unlikely because of Lynchs recruitment. I suspect unless we can get something juicy for Wellingham we will be quiet the rest of trade week. We will likely look at bringing in some pacy, incisive outside players and crumbers in the draft now.
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Partially agree!

Wood and U.S. Shae were only ever going to be able to play #1 ruck though. Pederson, if brought in, would be developed with a 80% KPP, 20% #2 ruck role in mind for if/when he was selected to play seniors. That would have a much less deleterious effect on the development of Witts and Ceglar. They could still play 40% ruck time each in the VFL. With Wood and Shae there it was much less than that.
 
Quicky said:
Geez thats embarrassing. You couldn't sound weaker if you tried.
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And this slap from Wellingham's manager;

"Melbourne has never been a discussion point, Sharrod hasn’t even got in front of Melbourne," Da Costa said.

"Winning culture's got to be a big part of it as well."
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Snoop Dog said:
I am also struggling with Pederson and unclear where he fits in given have 4 in front of him as a fwd and 3 as a back. Given that. I certainly don't think a Rd 2 makes sense.

Would much rather deal wellingham for caddy some way. If not him could be convinced of moloney or stevens and then target pace in the draft and KPF
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Sounds like we are out of the Race of Caddy:(
 
No one interested in Hamish Mac seeing he is on trade table.. ?
Could take over from Jolly as #1 when Jolly leaves! Do that job for 3 years then Witts to take over :)
 
Nickwell13 said:
No one interested in Hamish Mac seeing he is on trade table.. ?
Could take over from Jolly as #1 when Jolly leaves! Do that job for 3 years then Witts to take over :)
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hes very injury prone and not worth a first round pick which geelong are rumored to offer
 
On Lynch's signing at the bottom it had this written -
Sharrod Wellingham, meanwhile, is considered highly likely to move back to Western Australia.
West Coast and Fremantle both believed to be keen despite a hefty price of $450,000 a season.
The Dockers could send ruckman Jonathan Griffin to Collingwood in exchange for Wellingham.
First ive heard at all anything about Griffen being a chance - any interest?​
 

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