Running bounce 15m vs Paid mark 15m

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Topkent

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They really should be counting steps and adjusting up and down depending on how flat out a player is going. Flat out, most players should be taking a bounce every 7 or 8 strides.

Players also have GPS trackers. It would be good if this tech could be used in some way to alert the umpire when a player is approaching their 15 limit, although counting steps is something both umpire and player can do.
Counting steps is moronic. You can't expect an umpire to start counting every single time a player gets the valll
 

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Don't know how to add videos but you can add another one to the collection from tonight. Check out the cats first goal tonight, guy gets it a couple meters inside the 50 then kicks it from maybe 3-4m from the goal square. At best he has run 30m, in all likelihood 35 or even more.

You can understand when a player is zigzagging around how the umps can lose count, but it's unacceptable when a player is running dead straight between easily identifiable marks and they still can't even get it close to right. You know the umpire would have paid a kick that distance.

A unique skill to our game has been turned into a farce by the utter incompetence of the umpires. This isn't one where they can be let off the hook because of a grey area, it's utter incompetence.
 

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Don't know how to add videos but you can add another one to the collection from tonight. Check out the cats first goal tonight, guy gets it a couple meters inside the 50 then kicks it from maybe 3-4m from the goal square. At best he has run 30m, in all likelihood 35 or even more.

You can understand when a player is zigzagging around how the umps can lose count, but it's unacceptable when a player is running dead straight between easily identifiable marks and they still can't even get it close to right. You know the umpire would have paid a kick that distance.

A unique skill to our game has been turned into a farce by the utter incompetence of the umpires. This isn't one where they can be let off the hook because of a grey area, it's utter incompetence.
Agree completely. It's been bad this year. Been a few times where tiger players should have been pinged running into goal also.
 

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Don't know how to add videos but you can add another one to the collection from tonight. Check out the cats first goal tonight, guy gets it a couple meters inside the 50 then kicks it from maybe 3-4m from the goal square. At best he has run 30m, in all likelihood 35 or even more.

You can understand when a player is zigzagging around how the umps can lose count, but it's unacceptable when a player is running dead straight between easily identifiable marks and they still can't even get it close to right. You know the umpire would have paid a kick that distance.

A unique skill to our game has been turned into a farce by the utter incompetence of the umpires. This isn't one where they can be let off the hook because of a grey area, it's utter incompetence.
Was easily 25m to 30m. I remember Burgoyne being pinged once. 8 steps so at full stride cant have been much over 15m. Yet sometimes they run and run. Then chip it 8m for a mark.

Make both 20m and enforce both heavily. Game improves enormously.
 

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I reckon if Rozee had kicked it to Dixon (arrow) it would have been paid a mark, but apparently he ran less than 15m (without bouncing) for his point.

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What about kicking out from full back? This Port player ran all this way without bouncing before kicking it. Given each mowing 'stripe' is at least 10m wide he's run 15m past the point post.

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That was a shocker, definitely ran too far! He's run 30 metres!
 

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That was a shocker, definitely ran too far! He's run 30 metres!
Its not a shocker, but actually a statement made on an incorrect assumption. Its not a given that the mown strips are 10m+.

In the later picture posted of the Richmond v Collingwood game you can see that the grass strips are about the width of the distance between the goal post and the point post. Thats just 6.4 metres.

Then have a look how far Dan Houston has run based on that knowledge.
 

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Its not a shocker, but actually a statement made on an incorrect assumption. Its not a given that the mown strips are 10m+.

In the later picture posted of the Richmond v Collingwood game you can see that the grass strips are about the width of the distance between the goal post and the point post. Thats just 6.4 metres.

Then have a look how far Dan Houston has run based on that knowledge.
Wrong. You can't see the start of the mown strip between the posts in the second pic so how can you say the distance is "about the width of the distance between the goal post and the point post"? It was stated in commentary at the time that the width of the mown strip was approximately 10m and if you look at either pic you can see it's nowhere near 6.4m.

Even if you were correct it means that in the second pic the ball travelled around 8-9m for a paid mark.

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Its not a shocker, but actually a statement made on an incorrect assumption. Its not a given that the mown strips are 10m+.

In the later picture posted of the Richmond v Collingwood game you can see that the grass strips are about the width of the distance between the goal post and the point post. Thats just 6.4 metres.

Then have a look how far Dan Houston has run based on that knowledge.
hes halfway from the goal square to the 50m arc. you dont need mowing strips to see that.
 

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Even if you were correct it means that in the second pic the ball travelled around 8-9m for a paid mark.
Well yes, I thought the mark was well short of what it needed to be.

It was stated in commentary at the time that the width of the mown strip was approximately 10m
I remember BT insisting on that. I also remember when he got out the measuring wheel and had to go past the edge of the strip to reach the 10 he'd insisted on. I think it was closer to 8 when they actually measured.

hes halfway from the goal square to the 50m arc. you dont need mowing strips to see that.
From the top corner of the qoal square to around where Houston is kicking the ball is maybe 20ish. So not that excessive either.
 
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With respect to Connor Mckenna selfie kick. The rules of the game must apply and I would be furious if I thought the umps let it go potentially costing the game. However, the rules should be changed next year to allow it. Skill and excitement should not be stifled.
Now that Connor McKenna has returned to Ireland, are you just as pro about allowing it ??
 

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Am sick of marks being measured from where the player kicks vs the man on the mark.

Also sick of different time rules inside the last 2 minutes of a game. Why do you have 20-30 seconds to kick the ball, but in the last 2 minutes it's play on after 5 seconds?
 

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