Ryan Cook

[Lonie_from_50]

Why hasn't he played in the last month?

Coin Toss, Hoggy, anyone?

 

[Coin_Toss]

Why hasn't he played in the last month?

Coin Toss, Hoggy, anyone?

He got stiches to the head, apparently. He'll be back this weekend.

 

[Murray]

Gee, I like the look of this kid.
Must admit only seen him 3 times, but he looks to really have something.
A couple of really hard pre-seasons and I can see him playing a on ball roll

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Saw him once against Sandy. I was very impressed. Not much of him but has a football brain. His height may be a disadvantage going forward because very few people can play the Russell Robertson role in the forward pocket. May need to prove himself as a midfielder to enhance his opportunities.

 

[Coin_Toss]

Saw him once against Sandy. I was very impressed. Not much of him but has a football brain. His height may be a disadvantage going forward because very few people can play the Russell Robertson role in the forward pocket. May need to prove himself as a midfielder to enhance his opportunities.

He kicked five goals against Sandy. He knows where to find the ball and he is very strong overhead.

A couple of really hard pre-seasons and I can see him playing a on ball roll

Interesting point, Murray.

I see Cooky as a forward where he can use his marking ability effectively and wisely. In the O'Keefe mould most certainly.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I see Cooky as a forward where he can use his marking ability effectively and wisely. In the O'Keefe mould most certainly.

Like I said, theres not many O'Keefes and Robertsons and Didaks around surviving in starvation corner. Its a tough gig being a small forward. If he makes the grade in the pocket I'll be rapt, but maybe he needs to add some more strings to his bow.

 

[MarkT]

What is his pace like?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

What is his pace like?

Have not seen enough - looks ok on the burst though.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

His pace is solid. By no means is he slow.

When he bulks up though, you'll start seeing some more mongrel out of him. He definitely had it in TAC Cup competition, but I think he recognises that he's a bit outmatched physically at the moment.

 

[Coin_Toss]

What is his pace like?

He's not overly quick, or slow. But he possesses good endurance, which sees him run out most games.

 

[MarkT]

He's not overly quick, or slow. But he possesses good endurance, which sees him run out most games.

Unfortunately that sound very Collingwood. Not knocking him – I’ve never seen him play.

 

[jefffff34]

You've got to remember that we picked him up as a bottom age player (like Anthony), he could still be playing TAC Cup if we didn't draft him, but the club reckoned he was a top 10 pick for this year's draft.

Could be a bargain.

 

[Lonie_from_50]

You've got to remember that we picked him up as a bottom age player (like Anthony), he could still be playing TAC Cup if we didn't draft him, but the club reckoned he was a top 10 pick for this year's draft.

Could be a bargain.

Yeap. Kicked 3 on GF Day didn't he?

What I have noticed is that over his career in TAC and VFL football, he has kicked bags (to a small forward) in games, and others hasn't got the single goals.

 

[Murray]

He's not overly quick, or slow. But he possesses good endurance, which sees him run out most games.

I reckon his pace is about that of Didak.

When you think about his age it does make some difference.
By 19 he could be a regular selection in the 1's.

 

[FIGJAM]

You've got to remember that we picked him up as a bottom age player (like Anthony), he could still be playing TAC Cup if we didn't draft him, but the club reckoned he was a top 10 pick for this year's draft.

Could be a bargain.

He may end up being quite valuable, but having watched some of the Championships, he ain't in the same ball park as the top 10's!

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

He's not a top 10 in this year's draft, despite being bottom age last year, but that's only because this is an especially strong draft.

However, he did have the potential to be more valuable than those picked around the same time in his draft, due to his scope for improvement.

 

[jefffff34]

He may end up being quite valuable, but having watched some of the Championships, he ain't in the same ball park as the top 10's!

I remember some experts say that he could be considered around top 10 for next season (this season) when we drafted him.

It would be interesting to see how he would have gone against those in the U18 carnival, remember this is Cook's first year against fully grown men so that would definitely have an impact on his output.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

Unfortunately that sound very Collingwood. Not knocking him – I’ve never seen him play.

Jeez, Mark. Pessimist.

 

[MarkT]

Jeez, Mark. Pessimist.

Not at all. We need pace hence my question. We have a lot of medium pacers. Buckley may be an out and out gun but he isn’t overly quick. You don’t them to all be rockets but I hope we can slot a couple into the lineup over the next 2 years.

 

[FIGJAM]

If anything, I'd put him in the Swan category.

He's got nothing standout about his game at the minute, but there's definitely nothing standing out in terms of anything negative either. If you want to nit pick a lack of a standout AFL attribute can put some people off, but if you're obsessed with finding one aspect, then you may miss out on a decent package.

He has had mixed reviews, but he's also got, and is getting, runs on the board. Consistently in the best in the VFL as a bottom age recruit, with a 5 goal bag to his name, is certainly enough to suggest that he's not out of his depth, and with age will most likely improve.

I have more worries with Stanley than I do for Cooky.

 

[ant22]

Like I said, theres not many O'Keefes and Robertsons and Didaks around surviving in starvation corner. Its a tough gig being a small forward. If he makes the grade in the pocket I'll be rapt, but maybe he needs to add some more strings to his bow.

I dont think it is nearly as tough as it was a few years ago so long as you have a decent engine. Fact is guys like didak are given a licence to roam up as far as half back flank. Its more like an extra wing than just sitting down and waiting for the crumbs. Also the fact the back flankers and pockets are alot more prepared(and expected) to take risks and create a bit of run it is giving the hff and fps a bit more freedom . I think you will start to see alot more successful onballers like didak and pettifer over the next 10 or so years . It is definately a different role than it used to be

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I dont think it is nearly as tough as it was a few years ago so long as you have a decent engine. Fact is guys like didak are given a licence to roam up as far as half back flank. Its more like an extra wing than just sitting down and waiting for the crumbs. Also the fact the back flankers and pockets are alot more prepared(and expected) to take risks and create a bit of run it is giving the hff and fps a bit more freedom . I think you will start to see alot more successful onballers like didak and pettifer over the next 10 or so years . It is definately a different role than it used to be

Interesting that you bring that up - I actually think Ryan has the mentality to possibly make an excellent HBF'er.

He's strong for his size in the air, meaning that against medium and small forwards, he would come out even, if not ahead in aerial contests, and his attack on the man is ferocious.

It'll be interesting to see which way Ryan's career goes.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I have more worries with Stanley than I do for Cooky.

Don't forget that Stanley is even younger than Cooky, but has a very good combination of quickness and girth - He carries his big frame well, and moves pretty well at that size too.

Until now, Stanley has been much bigger than his opposition, so it will take as much, if not more time to adjust for him.

It's funny though, Cook is always mentioned as "the young one", but Stanley is actually younger, and people are acting like he's the one under the pressure to perform.

 

[Palmer Stoat]

I have more worries with Stanley than I do for Cooky.

By all reports, Stanley is an iffy kick. If that's actually the case -- I repeat if -- then I'd be very disappointed that we drafted him. We already have too many dodgy kicks. With each passing year, foot skills become more important. You just can't afford to draft kids with deficiencies in this area any more, especially not with an early second-round pick.

 

[Coin_Toss]

My main concern for Stanley is his velocity. He has got caught holding the ball numerous of times.

Palmer Stoat briefly mentioned my other concern, Stanley's foot skills. He makes foot errors regularly for an AFL Listed footballer.