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Agree with most - Siddle doesn't deserve to stay in the ODI team on current form. Could fight his way back, but needs to find some form/confidence with Vics as struggled all year.

No guarantees either Lee or Bracken will come back & should have to earn it playing well for NSW 1st.

Currently, the 3 quicks deserving selection in our ODI squad are Bolinger, Johnson & Harris. Need to reward form & 2 5 fors can't be ignored even if Pakistan struggling (as still out performed others). Can also get by with 2 quicks + Watson + Hopes if feel need more batting depth (+ Hauritz + Clarke).
 
siddle, bollinger and mckay should be in the team. Should be impossible to drop a man with consecutive 5-fa's. second aussie in ODI's to do so. SIddle is more a test bowler and harris the one dayer.

But its nice to see the ball moving off the straight for once....
 

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see how well ryan harris is going

Had they picked the replacement on form or stats alone Harris wouldnt of come close to being picked.
This is why stats from our domestic series isnt the best way to pick players, and why people need to learn to ignore stats and pay more attention to actual talent an skill.

Steve Smith will hopefully get picked the same way soon.
 
TorresIsGod said:
I don't think Siddle should be playing ODI cricket.

There's no reason why Ryan Harris should be dropped after his recent performances.
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Sman-21 said:
see how well ryan harris is going

Had they picked the replacement on form or stats alone Harris wouldnt of come close to being picked.
This is why stats from our domestic series isnt the best way to pick players, and why people need to learn to ignore stats and pay more attention to actual talent an skill.

Steve Smith will hopefully get picked the same way soon.
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But what is saying the same person who has better stats wouldn't have performed aptly? Just because the skill level is there, doesn't mean the aptitude is.
 
King Elvis said:
Didnt we offer him a pretty crap and pretty short contract just after he won our MVP award?
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Correct.

SACA, badly stuffed up ... apparently we could afford ou MVP to walk :mad:
 

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Innit said:
Great performances over the 3 games, really took his opportunity with both hands. Relentless and didnt give the batsman a chance. Good luck to him and hopes he gets a gig against the windies
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Did well against a side down. WI will towel him in most games.
 
Harris has done enough to ensure he should be picked for WI series and see how that goes. Yet to see much evidence he can bat though.

McKay likewise has been very good, he doesn't excite me to watch but he is a good bowler with some nice slower balls.

Siddle back to Victoria to either rest or play 4 cricket not ODI cricket which he is no good at anyway.

Would like to see Harris & McKay given the bulk of the summer ODI work with the Rug and MJ alternating as 3rd option.

Bracken is finished I think. Been a good ODI bowler for us.

Lee is probably finished but would welcome him back to the ODI team with open arms, he is a world class ODI bowler.

Harris will not be in contention for Test cricket though....
 
Harris should be in contention for Tests if he keeps performing in Shield.

As for McKay, cannot see him making the transition to Tests - vanilla as they come.
 
Tambaran said:
Harris should be in contention for Tests if he keeps performing in Shield.

As for McKay, cannot see him making the transition to Tests - vanilla as they come.
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Agree on McKay, just don't think he has enough tricks, pace or bounce to get Test batsmen out. Looks a great ODI prospect though and useful depth for the Test team.
 
Our ODI bowling attack right now should be Johnson, Harris, McKay and Hauritz.

Do I think the form of players like Harris, McKay and Bollinger will hold up against more capable sides in ODI's? No. But right now with players like Hilfenhaus and Bracken still injured, we have no other options.
 
Some of you need to get a bloody idea.

Harris yes i agree is a very good one day bowler, but to give him a gig at test level is a bit absurd. Dougie and Mitch are penciled in to the team, and the real battle is between hilfy and siddle for the last pace bowler spot. Siddle is a proven baller at test level taking bags against the poms and south africans, he had an off test summer full of bad luck.

Australia Test Pecking Order imo

M.Jhonson
D.Bollinger
P.Siddle
B.Hilfenhaus
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R.Harris
C.Mckay
B.Lee etc
 

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SwanBet said:
Some of you need to get a bloody idea.

Harris yes i agree is a very good one day bowler, but to give him a gig at test level is a bit absurd. Dougie and Mitch are penciled in to the team, and the real battle is between hilfy and siddle for the last pace bowler spot. Siddle is a proven baller at test level taking bags against the poms and south africans, he had an off test summer full of bad luck.

Australia Test Pecking Order imo

M.Jhonson
D.Bollinger
P.Siddle
B.Hilfenhaus
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R.Harris
C.Mckay
B.Lee etc
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Disagree slightly

I'd have Hilf and Johnson as the locks

With Bollinger edging Siddle.

Edit: and I am getting super excited by J Pattison - looking forward to seeing him at the WACA sometime soon!
 
SwanBet said:
Some of you need to get a bloody idea.

Harris yes i agree is a very good one day bowler, but to give him a gig at test level is a bit absurd. Dougie and Mitch are penciled in to the team, and the real battle is between hilfy and siddle for the last pace bowler spot. Siddle is a proven baller at test level taking bags against the poms and south africans, he had an off test summer full of bad luck.

Australia Test Pecking Order imo

M.Jhonson
D.Bollinger
P.Siddle
B.Hilfenhaus
------------------
R.Harris
C.Mckay
B.Lee etc
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How is Hilfy behind Bollinger, and especially Siddle?

It would go:

Johnson
Hilfenhaus

Bollinger
Siddle (Battle between these two for the third spot)

McKay
 
SwanBet said:
Siddle is a proven baller at test level taking bags against the poms and south africans, he had an off test summer full of bad luck.
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I'm a Siddle fan, but he was average at best in the Ashes.

Average of 31ish, and from memory. of his 20 wickets, 13 of them were batting at 9/10/11.

He's a goer and he's got a future, but let's not get carried away, he's not a walk up start just yet.

Pecking order, IMO, is;

Johnson
Hilfy
Bollinger
Siddle
S Clark (haha, yea right, Selectors hate him)
Harris
Mackay
 
The 747 said:
Agree on McKay, just don't think he has enough tricks, pace or bounce to get Test batsmen out. Looks a great ODI prospect though and useful depth for the Test team.
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He's done the job for the Vics in 4 day cricket. Can extract some bounce off a good length, that's how he troubles batsman...

I think a lot of people write him off because he doesn't bowl 140+ like most bowlers do these days... But the likes of McGrath and Clark have done really well at test level bowling 130-140kph, because they can extract that extra bounce, like McKay does
 
w00dy said:
He's done the job for the Vics in 4 day cricket. Can extract some bounce off a good length, that's how he troubles batsman...

I think a lot of people write him off because he doesn't bowl 140+ like most bowlers do these days... But the likes of McGrath and Clark have done really well at test level bowling 130-140kph, because they can extract that extra bounce, like McKay does
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I am not writing him off but I am yet to be convinced...

Also remain unconvinced by the Rug although he bowled well this summer....
 

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