Ryan Harris

[DaRick]

Did well against a side down. WI will towel him in most games.

WI may do better against him (relatively speaking), but I doubt that they have the batting lineup (Gayle aside) to towel him - not with the way he's been bowling.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Harris yes i agree is a very good one day bowler, but to give him a gig at test level is a bit absurd. Dougie and Mitch are penciled in to the team, and the real battle is between hilfy and siddle for the last pace bowler spot.

Yep, all things being equal at this point, the top three pacemen in Australia are:

Bollinger
Hilfenhaus
Johnson

Dougie uses the new ball better than any bowler I've seen since McGrath, and Lillee before him. Hilfenhaus' swing is invaluable, and you just have to play Johnson because a wicket could fall at any time with him bowling.

Siddle gives it everything he's got but at times lacks a little in the tactical part of the game.

 

[matty p]

Dougie uses the new ball better than any bowler I've seen since McGrath, and Lillee before him.

You need to watch some more cricket....and maybe wait until you see Bollinger bowl against sides other than Pakistan and the West Indies.

 

[Ill Chicken]

You need to watch some more cricket....and maybe wait until you see Bollinger bowl against sides other than Pakistan and the West Indies.

And India.

The guy is exactly what we needed.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

You need to watch some more cricket....and maybe wait until you see Bollinger bowl against sides other than Pakistan and the West Indies.

And you need to find out what bowling is all about.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Dougie uses the new ball better than any bowler I've seen since McGrath, and Lillee before him. Hilfenhaus' swing is invaluable, and you just have to play Johnson because a wicket could fall at any time with him bowling.

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Hilfenhaus uses the ball better than bollinger

As did Gillespie, As did Alderman, As did McDermott

 

[Ill Chicken]

Hilfenhaus uses the ball better than bollinger

As did Gillespie, As did Alderman, As did McDermott

No they didn't. This is the beginning of a career whereas you are looking at in each a 10 years worth of a career where only Gillespie will be able to (in speculation by my part) be worth comparing to with Bollinger when it comes down to it. If you want to use that Alderman took 80 wickets against England as your defining factor, go a head.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

No they didn't. This is the beginning of a career whereas you are looking at in each a 10 years worth of a career where only Gillespie will be able to (in speculation by my part) be worth comparing to with Bollinger when it comes down to it. If you want to use that Alderman took 80 wickets against England as your defining factor, go a head.

Yes they did - bollinger is a good bowler - but saying he is a better new ball bowler then the 4 i mentioned based on a handful of tests against sub-standard batsmen is folly at best and well, less complimentary at worst.

I like the fact thet he puts in good areas regularly - and thus provides a good downwind option with the new ball.

However the 4 I mention still have him covered. I'd even throw Bruce Reid and Stuart Clark in as well

 

[Ill Chicken]

Yes they did - bollinger is a good bowler - but saying he is a better new ball bowler then the 4 i mentioned based on a handful of tests against sub-standard batsmen is folly at best and well, less complimentary at worst.

I like the fact thet he puts in good areas regularly - and thus provides a good downwind option with the new ball.

However the 4 I mention still have him covered. I'd even throw Bruce Reid and Stuart Clark in as well

Again, you can't judge Bollinger at the start of his career. His impact on the side has been huge and comparable with when McGrath went from being a prospect to full time.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Again, you can't judge Bollinger at the start of his career. His impact on the side has been huge and comparable with when McGrath went from being a prospect to full time.

you are the one judging him - saying he is the best new ball bowler we've had in 30 years besides lillee and mcgrath.

right now he has a handful ow wickets against substandard batsman - and you want to hail him the 3rd coming

let's wait until he's had 30 tests under his belt - then perhaps he can eclipse those i have mentioned. right now - he is nought more than a new bowler with a bit of form - not the 3rd best new ball bowler we have produced in 3 decades

 

[MAXIMUM GRUNDAGE]

Rhino deserves a longer run in ODI's.

I'm a huge fan of Siddle, I'm also Victorian and grew up in the same town as Siddle (in fact, lived across the road from the oval where he played junior cricket). So it pains me to say this, but I don't think Siddle is ODI standard. Might also get pushed out by the Rug in test matches.

Is Hilfy fit for the NZ tour?

 

[Ill Chicken]

you are the one judging him

WTF?

- saying he is the best new ball bowler we've had in 30 years besides lillee and mcgrath.

You are the one saying that. I am saying he is comparable to McGrath in the way they both started out.

right now he has a handful ow wickets against substandard batsman - and you want to hail him the 3rd coming

It's not the wickets he has taken, it is how he has taken them.

let's wait until he's had 30 tests under his belt - then perhaps he can eclipse those i have mentioned. right now - he is nought more than a new bowler with a bit of form - not the 3rd best new ball bowler we have produced in 3 decades

Didn't I already say that.